Encounter with a freeper-type at the grocery this afternoon...

[mike1963]

I'm waiting in the checkout line (It's a WalMart...please don't flame me, it's the only grocery store within 25 miles and I hate them as much as anybody does but I didn't feel like driving 50+ miles for milk and eggs)...anyway, they had Big Dog's books for sale in a rack right in the checkout line...there were only 2 left. Some old phart (I'm an old phart too) was standing next to me reading the blurbs on the dust cover while looked at it on the other remaining copy. I put it down and said, it's a damn shame we can't have someone of Bill's caliber in charge now instead of that dumb shit we have in the White House. He said "I disagree." That's it, 2 words...so I said "So you like the incompetent lying bastard Bush" He said "He's a good Christian man and he's evening up the score for Sept. 11"

I said "Are you one of those badly informed people who watch Fox TV and think Iraq had anything to do with Sept. 11?"

He stared blankly at me and never spoke another word for several minutes while we waited...

Fuckin' ignorant fundy sumbitches...:grr: :grr: :grr:

[drdigi420]

1. ignorant fundy

is a redundant phrase

[swag]

2. Did you know that you're my hero?

You're the wind beneath my wings.

[mike1963]

9. {blush}

...making circles in dirt with big toe...
:D
;-)

[reprehensor]

12. Fly...

Flyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy...

{lung bursts}

[leftchick]

36. Mine Too!!

woo hoo... I wish I had those cajones!

:)

[Cat Atomic]

3. Wow- stupid AND vengeful.

I'm sure Jesus would be very proud.

[NMDemDist2]

4. ROFL, tell us what you really think Mike. You just ruined the old guys

Sunday afternoon, and he thinks you are a heathen

WELL DONE!!

[trumad]

7. Sounds to me that the guy was minding his own fucking business!

[kodi]

46. yeah, i thought so too.

release the hounds? let us now begin to slam our minds into the faces of all who differ with us?

pogo, you was right.

[Fridays Child]

5. He couldn't respond to your question because the answer...

...would have been a shamefaced "yes."

[Manix]

6. ..give 'em hell mike1963!!

[merh]

8. Way to Go!

:thumbsup:

[RedSock]

10. WWJT?

Who Would Jesus Torture?

[reprehensor]

11. Fight the power, baby.

Al Franken played an interview with Clinton last Friday on www.AirAmericaRadio.com it was really good.

This review of 'My Life' by Larry McMurtry is nice. It sounds like a really good book.

Confessions of a Policy Wonk

William Jefferson Clinton's "My Life" is, by a generous measure, the richest American presidential autobiography - no other book tells us as vividly or fully what it is like to be president of the United States for eight years. Clinton had the good sense to couple great smarts with a solid education; he arrived in Washington in 1964 and has been the nation's - or perhaps the world's - No. 1 politics junkie ever since. And he can write - as Reagan, Ford, Nixon and Lyndon B. Johnson, to go no farther back, could not.

In recent days the memoirs of Ulysses S. Grant have been raised as a stick to beat Clinton with, and why? Snobbery is why. Some people don't want slick Bill Clinton to have written a book that might be as good as dear, dying General Grant's. In their anxiety lest this somehow happen they have not accurately considered either book.

Grant's is about being a general, in what Lincoln called a big war. Clinton's is about being a president at the end of the 20th century. Grant's is an Iliad, with the gracious Robert E. Lee as Hector and Grant himself the murderous Achilles. Clinton's is a galloping, reckless, political picaresque, a sort of pilgrim's progress, lowercase. There are plenty of stout sticks to beat Clinton with, but Grant's memoirs is not one of them.

Bill Clinton spent most of his childhood in the small town of Hope, Ark., which, culturally, is on the western edge of the South or the eastern edge of the Midwest, depending on which way one happened to be looking. His garrulity, which in the book manifests itself as too unremitting a focus on the minutiae of governance, maybe comes from the South, while his loneliness, his slight out-of-placeness, his seeming inability to get himself to really solid ground, comes from the Midwest, where he would have grown up had his father not rolled a car off the road and drowned in a drainage ditch. He died three months before Bill was born.

more@link

[Kurt Remarque]

22. if grant was sticking

those cigars in other places maybe he wouldn't have had to finish that book under such duress

[Still_Loves_John]

13. Wow, way to make the left look like a bunch of assholes

I mean, the guy was just standing there, and you accosted him. You called Bush an asshole, and all he said was "I disagree" and you bit his head off.

[mellowinman]

16. Wow, way to make the left look like a bunch of apologists.

The guy inferred Iraq "did" 911. Should we just let that shit fly?

SOMEBODY'S got to tell the truth once in awhile.

Worrying about looking like assholes has REALLY worked so far!

Ask those fuck senators that didn't want to look like assholes when Bush was running roughshod over them!

[mistertrickster]

17. A little trick I've learned is to count to three before typing as fast as

you can.

Ask the Iraqi kids with their arms blown off who the asshole is . . .

[Still_Loves_John]

23. Uh, that is so irrelevant

The guy was just standing in the checkout line, and he just spews stuff like "incompetant lying bastard bush." What good did he do? He just made the guy more pissed off at the left than he probably was. He didn't change any minds. He could have at least been civil, and maybe he could have at least made the guy think, but he didn't. He called the guy and ignorant bastard--what good did that do?

[sadiesworld]

20. Wait...hm...there...er...

no, couldn't work up a single tear.

[mike1963]

26. I "accosted him"??? I verbalized a simple opinion. If it hadn't been a

public place, I'd have done a hell of a lot more than 'bit his head off'. What the hell is the matter with you?

[Still_Loves_John]

31. What I'm saying is

that you didn't change his mind any by calling him an ignorant bastard. If you tried to be a little more civil maybe you could have actually made him think, instead of making yourself look like the aggressor.

[w13rd0]

35. He didn't call him an ignorant bastard...

...he said "Or are you one of the ignorant bastards that think Iraq had anything to do with 911?" Unless the guy actually thinks the Iraq War is "christ-like revenge" for 911, he's not an ignorant bastard. If he does believe that, then yes, he's an ignorant bastard.

[Still_Loves_John]

39. I'm sorry

I was too lazy to look at the original post again. My point was basically that with the profanity you came off as unnecessarily hostile when you didn't have to.

[AussieInCA]

42. yeah right, evening up the score with iraq (revenge)..some christian - NT

[mellowinman]

14. We need to do a lot more of this.

They had us on the defensive for four years, the bastards.

I say SHAKE 'EM UP!

Besides, there is no reason to let people think the war in Iraq is payback for 911.

That kind of shit needs to stop.

NOW!

[in_cog_ni_to]

15. Hahahaha!

OMG you made me laugh! I LOVE your bluntness! WTG!

[lostnfound]

18. Pretty intense, but I do like the phrase 'badly informed people who..

watch Fox TV and think Iraq had anything to do with Sept. 11"

That's hysterical.

[Moonbeam_Starlight]

19. I tend to just look up from looking at the book

get a wistful look on my face and say "boy I miss him!" (and I do, it's no lie). Then go from there.

[trumad]

24. Sorry folks....

but I disagree.... The guy was minding his own business. Disagree to disagree and don't insult the guy.

[NightOwwl]

27. Agreed

If the situation were reversed and some freeper accosted you verbally like that I think most of us would be calling him an a-hole and worse.

[mike1963]

28. Okay, you do it your way and I'll do it my way. The best defense is

a good offense.

[Lefty48197]

29. Stomp the sh*t out of the guy

he's aiding and abetting those that are rifling our wallets, pensions, and cookie jars.

[faithnotgreed]

34. yes. this balance (however hard it is to do) is very needed

i definitely understand the anger but....

[Moonbeam_Starlight]

41. What the heck is wrong

with saying I miss Clinton? That's not attacking the guy. He could easily ignore my very innocent remark or say "I don't" and leave it at that. And I'd leave it at that, too!

[Tandalayo_Scheisskopf]

21. You Rawk.

EOM. ;-)

[Lars39]

25. Good for you! He needed to hear a negative about his idol.

A lot of fundies are totally immersed in their own group. If he gripes about it at the next church dinner, it might give a fencesitter food for thought. :)

[jeffrey_X]

30. f'ing beautiful!

nm

[NJCher]

32. you hit home with this statement:

watch Fox TV and think Iraq had anything to do with Sept. 11

That's why he couldn't respond.

Ignore the comments about you accosting him. There is nothing wrong with taking an aggressive stance. As another poster said, worrying about being congenial hasn't really worked all that well.

Bravo for you.


Cher

[NJCher]

33. you hit home with this statement:

watch Fox TV and think Iraq had anything to do with Sept. 11

That's why he couldn't respond.

Ignore the comments about "accosting" him. There is nothing wrong with taking an aggressive stance. As another poster said, worrying about being congenial hasn't really worked all that well.

Bravo for you.


Cher

[Bridget Burke]

37. No Freeper story here, but Bill's book was on sale at Kroger....

At least, there was a special table set up near the cash registers, offering the book at a low price "while supplies last".

No copies were left.

[Solon]

38. WTF is it with the "Good Christian..." shit these fucks come out with?

I guess in there minds, non-Christians are automatically evil.

[Papa]

45. Not only that, but a good Christian that is evening the score

Revenge is what a good Christian practices? What kind of warped thinking is that? Does Jesus teach us revenge? Did I overlook that part of his message somehow that a good Christian must even the score?

God help us from these lunatics.

[NuttyFluffers]

40. i long to be among the aged pharts...

for i can say such audacious things like that publicly and be written off as a crotchety old phart and get away with it. it is true, those are the golden years of your life.
:evilgrin:

[mike1963]

48. It will happen WAY faster than you want, I can promise! :-)

I live in a very small community containing probably 83.2% rightwing nutballs (Wagoner, OK on the shore of Ft. Gibson lake and I love the general ambiance if not the politics)...

And I get along quite well with just about everyone - even though we have serious disagreements about Chimpy and the Big Dog. I don't disrespect somebody for their (grammar police alert) convictions even if they're wrong and give the Devil his due, many of the rightwing people I know have pretty much accorded me the same consideration. And so we co-exist fairly peacefully. But everybody around here knows not to screw with me and my SO. We're -very well- armed and excellent shots.
:D

[saracat]

43. You rock!

Ignore those posters who want to be "polite" to the nice old man. These people are sending our young men and women out to die and all our non agressiom and Dascle nicey-nice has brought us is war and poverty.And even if you can't convice them, it is good to take a public stand. Someone feeling on the fence or alienated might have heard you and felt better! I do this all the time and feel better for it, and guess what folks, I don't care what it makes us "look like" or if I look like a bitch!

[Habibi]

44. Your story

does this old phart's heart good.

Kudos! Maybe a less opinionated opening would have been easier on your target's delicate sensibilities, but what the heck, we'll all be rounded up soon and bussed to civilian labor camps, so live it up. :D

[baldguy]

47. Bush is not a good Christian.

He enjoys killing people too much.