OK, so if the Right made a movie as powerful as F9/11 would you see it?

[trumad]

If someone on the Right made a movie that was as truthful and compelling as Moore's 9/11 and it showed the Left in a bad way, would you see it?

I guess what I am saying is....if the shoe was on the other foot would you go see that type of movie. I would and I'll tell you why.... Because we Liberals seek the truth instead of hide from it. If the Right were able to put a movie that made us look bad but was truthful and entertaining, I'd watch it....I want my leaders to be truthful, I want my leaders to put the Country first instead of themselves..... Country first, Citizens first....Not the special interests of a few...

Now with that said, I'd have a better chance of the space station crashing into my house than to see a movie like that...

[OpSomBlood]

1. What could such a movie possibly have?

All they could do is show two hours of Saddam's atrocities.

[sniffa]

2. it's caLLed "the cLinton chronicLes"

[Catherine Vincent]

10. That one doesn't count because it was a bunch of lies.

[sniffa]

11. jerry a faLweLL a Liar?

sureLy you jest. :P

[MikeG]

3. You've obviously never seen "Triumph of the Will"

[Exgeneral]

22. I have ---very eerie how * landing on the carrier emulates it

The opening scenes of Triumph of the Will is exactly where the staging of the carriere landing come from.

[seventhson]

4. I would not give them a plug nickel

but I would see it for free if possible (maybe library etc.)

The fact is that we see the right wing spin 24-7 on CNN, Fox, etc.

it is a very poor substitution for the creativr grnius of Michael Moore.

[devilgrrl]

18. "The fact is that we see the right wing spin 24-7 on CNN, Fox, etc."

Exactly!!!!!

That's what I just told my mother. If she wants a opposing view of "F9/11" just watch TV news!!!!!!!

[Coventina]

5. If critics I trusted like Ebert, etc....

said it was an important movie, like what has been said about F9/11, then yes, I would go see it.

[Jade Fox]

6. If it were truthful, yes. If it was false, yes too.

I'd want to refute it.

I saw the movie that came out several years ago about the Waco mess
and thought it was great. I think a lot of people consider that movie to
be rightwing.

[Deja Q]

7. The movie could only show Dems acting like repukes and cozying up to

big corporations.

Unfortunately, the repukes do this too.

There's no way they can make a F911 unless the next Dem in power does something really dumb.

[OpSomBlood]

8. Come to think of it, isn't "The Passion" that film?

n/t

[FizzFuzz]

14. I don't think so

because the Passion is not documentary, its drama. Its as factual as Jason and the Argonauts, with sirens calling sailors to their doom and 3-headed dogs.

I didn't see the Passion, got no desire to do so.

[OpSomBlood]

29. No, I would get no enlightenment out of a 2-hour beating.

I'll never watch that movie.

[Pale Blue Dot]

9. If the Right made a movie as powerful as F9/11

I would book a flight on some flying pigs for my skiing vacation in hell.

[StandUpGuy]

12. Sweet ! Can I come too.

But first I'd want to see that film for sure.

I unlike a freptard don't like being misled and relish opportunities to disillusion myself.

[Doctor_J]

13. MUAHAHA

thanks for the monday night laff

[Junkdrawer]

16. I was about to say...

"I would open a zoo with the monkeys that flew out of my butt"

Great Minds.. :evilgrin:

[kymar57]

24. Phliiissp

That one caused beer through the nose. don't do that again:beer:

[ayeshahaqqiqa]

15. Ah! You used the magic word!

"Truth". I don't think the RW could MAKE a truthful film showing their point of view, frankly.

[Jacobin]

17. What? A movie about the horrible BlowJob?

What are you talking about?

I don't understand what you mean?

[Tsiyu]

19. We've been watching it for awhile

Seems to me all the demonizing of Saddam and the Iraqis, the demonizing of dissenters, the demonizing of lefties or even social progressives or even someone who asks rhetorically "But how can you say the world is a safer place when it really isn't" has been done-filmed-playing at a news outlet near you. We've been spoon fed the mush of corporate trickle-down manna. C'mon, how many of you are thrilled when your shares go up in value, neglecting to learn why the stock went up at all? Dirty trading? Who cares. Evil to employees? So what? Did my dividend get bigger?

We've seen this movie until we could puke. If they put it into a tidier package, an hour and a half of the same condensed, I would still puke....

[FizzFuzz]

20. If the Right had any facts to back themselves up, I would want to know!

So, if a powerful, painstakingly researched film including actual incriminating footage were made by them, I would think I would have to see it. Otherwise I would be a close minded head-in-the-sand loony.

Of course there are no facts or footage to support the RW, so that's 8 bucks I don't need to worry about.

[gatorboy]

21. We've been living the RW movie for the past 4 years....

And I want my money back!!!!

[whistle]

23. About what? What in the world real issue could the right wing be so...

...passionate about that Liberals would feel the need to consider their viewpoint as having merit? Ahaaa, you mean topics like these:

"Human greed and avarice on the decline,a wake-up call"
"The new racism, love thy neighbor from a distance"
"Public schools as the founding fathers envisioned them, none"
"Why 6.5 billion Christians all practicing their faith on the planet would be bad for Wall Street"
"You must have an enemy to grow"
"Let Freedom Reign, U.S. Hegemony and Empire"
"Brown shirts and black shirts, the new business style"

Has anyone at DU been able to sit through the entire showing of "Triumph of the Will" by Leni Riefenstahl? This is the Nazi propaganda film that glorified the life and legend of Adolf Hitler and the Third Reich. I think not. I don't have the stomach for it.

[librechik]

25. Already have, it's called "Triumph of the Will" by Leni Riefenstahl

and it fueled a revolution.

I don't think they are at all ALIKE by the way, but both are superbly persuasive and powerful in their own ways. More truth in Michael's of course (many of Triumph's scenes were scripted, a step phonier than the staged, yet spontaneous, street theater Michael's work revolves around) and of course, Michael's racism, such as it is, seems entirely innocent. He probably doesn't even realize the scenes with all the Arabs in their native gear are well, questionable (to be entirely too picky for even me to stand.) Nevertheless he chooses a young Muslim soldier to be his hero, as it were, so maybe it all balances out.

As I've already said on other threads here today I'd like to see them try. Unintentional humor can be very amusing sometimes. I'd give it a glance for a minute or two late at night when it's dumped out on cable, if I'm really high.

And WHY is the RWers response the Clinton Chronicles? Is he running for office?

[Paradise]

26. Nope! nt

[Zorra]

27. Absolutely. And you make great points in your post.

And if Al Gore had been selected under the same circumstances as Bu$h was selected, I would not recognize him as my president either.

[kcwayne]

28. I've seen a couple of Rambo flicks

and Freepers think they are documentaries, so I can yes, I would.

[Fleshdancer]

30. I would have to if I planned on debating it

I don't like the idea of bashing a movie I've never seen.

[Wapsie B]

31. I don't think the right could make something like F911.

It goes back to the old adage To piss off a Liberal tell him/her a lie. To piss off a rightie, tell him the truth.

[sffreeways]

32. ah

no.

I would just do what the freeps can't seem to do. Except that the film is out there and let the chips fall where they may. I wouldn't try to block theaters or demand that the film be censored. I would simply not be interested.

[AP]

33. Why pay to see something you get 24-7 from TV, newspapers, etc?

If you pay a cable bill you probably feel like you're paying enough to get that point of view.

[amazona]

34. if if was a skiff we'd all have boats

Sure, I go see movies by wingnuts if they are well made. Absolutely. A Clockwork Orange (Kubrick) and Blue Velvet (Lynch) are two of my favorite movies, and they certainly have nothing good to say about human nature (or "the left," in the case of A Clockwork Orange). I don't think the right wing can make a non-fiction movie of the caliber of the Fahrenheit 9-11 because they would have to lie and lies (for me) invalidate the power of film. I have seen Triumph of the Will, and let's be honest -- it was tedious. It was testosterone, we have this weapon and we have this and we're this big and, yeah, I finally walked out. Because I was bored. The trouble with making a right-wing F9-11 is that they hit us with cliches and hit us with cliches and hit us with cliches every day of the week...they are not trying to think new thoughts or bring out new ideas. But, sure, if I were proved wrong, and there was a movie of a caliber to appeal to my snobbism, I would go see it, absolutely.

As far as The Passion, no, I'm not going to watch an S/M movie about a religious figure I once worshipped as a god. I have other ways to get off, thank you. Once I heard about the 45 minute beating, no, sorry. I can get porn anywhere these days. I don't need to get it from Mel Gibson. If that makes me small-minded, so be it.

Moore showed respect toward victims. He does not show us people burning up or jumping out of the WTC. A far cry from a 45 minute whipping scene...

There is a conservative mantra -- "Other people's pain is funny." Well, I'm not gonna go see that kind of film, and if that makes me a judgmental B, so be it.

[riverwalker]

35. no

We have FOX news 24 hours a day. On the radio, all we have available is Bill Bennett and some local repug turd in the AM, then Hannity, Savage in the evening. We get Air America only for 3 hours a day around here on one channel. In a traditional democratic state, I am saturated with repug dogma day and night. I think part of the reason F 9/11 is such a monster hit (besides being brilliant) is that it is like we were forced to smell onions day and night for three years, onions everywhere, and suddenly someone opens a window and you smell roses.
Tonight (I have along commute, and dial surf) Curtis Sliwa (The Guardian Angel) was filling in for Hannity, here are his actual words: "Da Iraqians are dancing in the streets tonight! Da Iraqians have talk radio and they are calling in the shows jubilant!"
sigh....stinkin' onions....