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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-29-04 01:36 PM
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In kindest way, I suggest friends/family intervention for Nader --
and I do not wish to start a flame-Nader thread. The man has earned a place in our history. As I look at the DU boards today, however, I do wonder if he has family or friends who could reason with him -- about more than the 2004 election. Comments from members of the Congressional Black Caucus, after meeting with him, had a subtext that there was something not quite right about the man. I believe posters have alluded to a possible stroke he had at some time in the past, and other personality-related issues. He does not look, in pictures, like a healthy man.

And there are two curious threads here at DU.

In GD2004, there is "Nader Calls Green Party 'Strange' and a 'Cabal,'" citing a Washington Post article:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x559499

In LBN, there is a thread based on another WaPo article, "Unsolicited Advice From the Far Left (Nader Says Moore Like A Beach Ball)":

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=650559

Does anyone know if Nader has family or friends, who might be aware of his condition, and help him, if necessary? If not, there is precedent for a not-quite-right candidate having a substantial effect on an election -- in 1992, at the expense of George H.W. Bush. But it is probably not a good habit for a nation to get into.
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mstrsplinter326 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-29-04 01:42 PM
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1. Just as a matter of impartiality
Here's a thread that shows that the issue of third party candidates (no nader promotions here) is not as clear cut here in DU:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=1886959&mesg_id=1886959&page=

I repeat I am not promoting Nader, just showing that those two post above are not indicative of the banter in the DU.

Here's another just for kicks:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=1886766&mesg_id=1886766&page=
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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-29-04 01:46 PM
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3. Thanks for the additional links, ms326 --
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mstrsplinter326 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-29-04 01:50 PM
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4. no problem, just trying to get out everyone's opinion. n/t
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-29-04 01:43 PM
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2. My instinctive response would be
Edited on Tue Jun-29-04 01:45 PM by hlthe2b
to send the local chapter of NAAFA (The National Association to Advance Fat Acceptance) to do the intervention....(Sorry, but I get a little bit of perverse humor from thinking of him answering the door to 20 or 30 very unabashedly obese individuals)

But, I agree with you, that he has gone off the deep end and that it is quite sad, given the promise of his work from long ago...
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Cats Against Frist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-29-04 01:52 PM
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5. Call me insane
But I STILL think he'll throw. My rationale: He is all buddy-buddy with Kerry, telling him to pick Edwards and whatnot. He always talks about the "100 million voters" (playstation & porn addicts) that he's going to mobilize. I think it's a secret Democratic strategy to mobilize some voters who feel they have no efficacy, and then at the last minute Nader comes up with a big speech about how the Democrats are listening, etc., etc., he's seen the light, etc., etc., and Bush and Cheney are the left and right hand of the devil.

Or maybe this is just my wet dream.
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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-29-04 01:54 PM
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6. Welcome to DU, Cats Against Frist! My cats and I declare...
your DU name our absolute new favorite. And I hope you're right about Ralph Nader!
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Cats Against Frist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-29-04 02:04 PM
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7. Thank You
And I hope I'm right, too. Ralph just CAN'T JUST CAN'T JUST CAN'T be this ridiculous.

I'm wondering if some of it isn't the "atlas shrugged" thing -- where people of a more independent bent (owing much to objectivism) believe that you have to crash the whole system before change can occur.

I've always said: when the REAL revolution starts, call me up. Until then, getting in your little car and complacently voting for the "third party candidate" isn't going to do anything for anybody. ;)
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Claire Beth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-29-04 02:04 PM
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8. I love that name....
"cats against frist"... too funny! :hi:
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Cats Against Frist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-29-04 02:09 PM
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9. Thank You
I'm already ready for when they try to bump him up the GOP line. Every other word that comes out of my mouth will be "Columbia/HCA" and "numerous felonies." :)
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Claire Beth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-29-04 03:51 PM
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10. I'm from Tennessee....
so I for sure cannot stand the man!!!! and I LOVE cats, btw....
:toast:
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