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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-17-03 09:02 AM
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WAR on Hate, Ignorance, Greed, Selfishness, Deciet, Dualism, etc
This should be our focus and agenda....

what say the thinkers out there?
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wtmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-17-03 09:15 AM
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1. Yeah...where to start? n/t
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salmonhorse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-17-03 09:16 AM
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2. "He said his name was Columbus...
"And I just said, "Good Luck!"."

An otherwise noble little list from which to employ a legion. Not so very unlike Bush's whimsical charge to eliminate all "eva'doers" therefore a call for full employment services to they, such as myself, who agree with what you have said here ~

:hi:

If while no-less than a daunting, never ending prospect...
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Le Taz Hot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-17-03 10:30 AM
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5. "Bob Dylan's 115th Dream"
What do I win? ;-)

(Sorry, that was SO off-topic) B-)
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sistersofmercy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-17-03 09:22 AM
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3. Deceit is the place to start everything else falls in line behind...
the rest of the list. More ppl need to know about executive order 13303. Check out this URL in regard to the attempted defection of Hussein Kamel. I think it sheds some light on way he didn't get a pass to the west. http://www.globalresearch.ca/articles/KHA304A.html
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ewagner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-17-03 10:27 AM
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4. Agree
Truth in advertising is a good place to start. Bush never was what he was advertised to be.

Need to compare and contrast the deceit of this administration with the truth of our ideals. Beating up on 13303 is a good place to start.
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sistersofmercy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-17-03 10:51 AM
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7. Giving halliburton et al a "get out of jail free" card! Hey did you..
check out the URL. It's a great article written by an Iraqi defector. Most of the widely reported support of evidence on WMD is the attempted defection of Hussein Kamel and what he supposedly said in interviews.
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ewagner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-17-03 11:04 AM
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10. Thanks
I read that before but it was worth looking at again.

While glancing through it I found another disturbing point relevant to this thread. During the Bush/Cheney/Rice/Rumsfeld speeches leading to the invasion, all of them were constantly mixing old information (1991-92 vintage) into their speeches as if it was current intelligence or news. That is the kind of lying and misinformation which needs to be exposed!
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liberalmuse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-17-03 11:08 AM
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12. Yep. It's all about truth...
and by calling the propoganda--the 'Big Lie' exactly what it is every time it is dispersed from the White House and the media. We'll never win any war on an abstract noun. We just have to keep reminding people what the truth is.
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ForrestGump Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-17-03 11:18 AM
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15. I think greed and ignorance are where it all starts, ultimately
Not that either one is going to ever be completely eradicated. I'd posit that the most destructive scenarios come from interplay between the greed of the People In Charge and the ignorance of Everyone Else.

For example, hate comes largely from ignorance, and is used by those with greed to further their own selfish goals - these same people often resort to deceit to stoke the fires of hatred. Turn the tide on ignorance and the self-serving powerful, who've caused most of the strife throughout human history, will be isolated and find their power eroded. In the United States today, though, is rampant ignorance among the general population becoming more entrenched or is there yet hope?
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premjan Donating Member (30 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-17-03 10:32 AM
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6. what's wrong with
dualism? I thought that was a pretty important thing (makes computers run for one).
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bloom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-17-03 10:56 AM
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8. Duality...
On the one hand - it's a pain in the neck to have people like Limbaugh and Colter getting people so riled up against liberals that they threaten to kill them or at least suggest that they want to.

On the other hand - there is the DLC that seems to want to be so moderate as to not distingish themselves from Bush.

I tend to agree with whoever suggested that we're better off defining ourselves as being significantly different from the Bush type of Republicans. I would think everyone here would want to, as well.
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Iverson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-17-03 11:10 AM
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13. you're either with dualism or with the terrorists
n/t (except this bit)
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-17-03 12:12 PM
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16. Dualism is the Love/Hate thingy. Them... and Us... Holism is WE
The THEM over there are our enemies...


The US over here are US, we good, they Bad.

Holism is for everybody and our future.

Dualism does not lead to SUSTAINABILITY FOR THE PLANET

Come, we go eat sushi and drink beer
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quinnox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-17-03 11:00 AM
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9. Add the
name Howard Dean onto the agenda, and I'm in! Pass the kool-aid. (note: this post is satire, and is not intended for serious debate)
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Mairead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-17-03 11:08 AM
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11. Yep. And Kucinich or Sharpton seem to be the best choices
for standard-bearer.

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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-17-03 11:18 AM
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14. I'm tryin' to do better,,, but!
I threw away my plastic Jesus statue off of my dashboard and replaced it with the New 'AWOL JOE' acting figure! As soon as I did that, my old gasoline was worth far more money the very next week! I filled up last week at $152.9 per gallon and just a week later that same gas is worth $2.00.9 a gallon at the pumps! I guess I needed the octane boost I got out of just changing my statues, because @ $2.00.9 a gallon the octane rating is bound to be higher! It's almost like turning water into wine!

Before Bush stole the election people didn't get shot down like Dawgs for filling up, like they do around here nowdaze! Dignitude my arse!

Come, we go pump Ethyl in our steel helmets!
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-17-03 12:16 PM
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17. The real battle is HOW TO MAKE OUR PLANET SUSTAINABLE
But the greedy MFKRs want it all for THEM

Come, we go WV, look for the KOOK with a death wish, Bring your steel helmet
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