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sfwriter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-29-04 06:54 PM
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A Freeper Replies....
Edited on Tue Jun-29-04 07:00 PM by sfwriter
A few days ago, I posted a copy of a letter I had sent to a friend who had become a freeper over the years. You can see that thread here. You should check that post out for the back-story.

Today I finally got the reply. As some had predicted, hitting him with this at an emotionally charged time may not have been the best move in terms of etiquette or tactics. I also see in his reply that he saw my response only as a political attack and felt none of the emotion behind it. This is the reply I sent.


>On Monday, June 28, 2004, at 06:58 PM, <*********@********.com> wrote:

>Sandy, I'm apalled. You and I have had our differences, but your situation reminded >me of the situation with my own parents, which is why I wrote to you. In response, >you use that as an opening for a political attack.

>You've gone over the edge, pal. You can't see people as human beings any more. >They're just political actors to you. I can't think of a reason I'd ever want to speak >another word to you.

My Response:

I just wanted to let you know the emotional impact of the things you've been saying on those around you. Not to mention the direct impact our healthcare system has had on my father's life. For several days before you wrote us, your blog posts had been a topic of discussion around our house. I'd even written a letter to you and a blog post of my own but decided against sending them.

We found it bewildering. Can he really believe those things? Does he actually think of us as spouse abusers for being liberals and patriots? Does he ever post anything political we haven't seen on Newsmax? When did he become such a drone to the right wing?

If you have managed to somehow separate the things you say from their impact on those around you, then your beliefs and opinions are supported more by your distance from their consequences than anything else.

I know you didn't always hold the views you do. You once berated Crissy for playing golf because it was ecologically unsound. At that point, you were far to the left of us. I can't imagine you holding that opinion now. I just wanted to let you know how shocked we've been. In several years, your blog has been all we've seen. That's really all we've had to shape our opinion of you.

I've always admired you. I've hired you twice. I've recommended websites and things you've written to others. I put you up first in line when I declined the Mac Demystified rewrite.

If you think my concern was false or this was just a cheap shot to score political points, then you are mistaken. Someone like ***** ****, I would have ignored. A friend deserves my honesty.

-Sandy
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-29-04 06:59 PM
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1. It 's hard when a former friend misunderstands
If its any comfort to you, energy levels appear to be high. Good friends that I know have been disagreeing, and they share the same politcal opinions! I hope you are able to build a bridge with your former friend, and that he finally sees the light of tolerance and compassion.
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nosmokes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-29-04 07:00 PM
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2. link doesn't work eom
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sfwriter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-29-04 07:01 PM
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Fixed. EOM
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laylah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-29-04 07:00 PM
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3. Sandy
IMHO, another thoughtful, HONEST response to your friend. I, personally, did not feel that your first response was inappropriate. You felt he had been attacking you and your Dad's views improperly. I, for one, still believe that your first response was controlled, intelligent, and justified.

How's that baby :hug:

Jenn
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sfwriter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-29-04 07:02 PM
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5. Great (w/pic)
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JanMichael Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-29-04 07:01 PM
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4. That link doesn't work!
Sounds like one of my friends, and I am interested in reading this-

Stephanie
(on my husband's name)
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yankeedem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-29-04 07:04 PM
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6. Take out the extra http://
eom
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JanMichael Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-29-04 07:05 PM
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7. Got it!
Just read it; I am going to read the friend's blog now.

Stephanei
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sfwriter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-29-04 07:15 PM
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8. Helps to click on news...
That's how he files most of his political material...
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nosmokes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-29-04 07:15 PM
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9. man.
what an emotional gut twister. father's passing and babys abornin' and friend's going down bad paths and world going to hell in dubya's handbasket. but you write an honest and heartfelt letter and maybe someday your friend will see that too.

peace to you and your's~
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sfwriter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-30-04 02:52 PM
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10. We're handling it surprisingly well...
Funny thing is, life seems much shorter and precious to me, so I'm being a lot more open. I just don't find someone else condoning mass murder as palatable or as easy to gloss over with manners and etequette as I once did.
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-30-04 03:06 PM
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11. Seems like your friend lost the connection between...
a political point of view and how it ripples out to affect society. His retreating into a bubble and admonishing you for connecting the dots is what's appaling here.

He could have learned something from how your father was treated. Instead, your friend tries to wangle himself into being the injured party. I call it the "injured puppy syndrome of the socipath". He's a bully that got bitch-slapped and can't take it.

He ought to apologze for helping to engineer our country into the mess it's in instead of trying to force you into a guilt trip. He made his bed - now he can lay in it.
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