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PROGRESSIVE1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-29-04 10:37 PM
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Where did Rev Moon (Moonie) get his financial fortune from?
any links, facts???
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LittleApple81 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-29-04 10:39 PM
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1. Idiots. n/t
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BlueJazz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-29-04 11:09 PM
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9. When I saw this post on the home page...
..that's the first thought that crossed my mind..."Dumb Fuckin' Idiots" LOL!
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Mayberry Machiavelli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-29-04 10:40 PM
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2. Running a cult is very profitable. People give you all their money
and work like slaves to make even more for you. In return for nothing.
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prodigal_green Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-29-04 10:40 PM
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3. cult members
Edited on Tue Jun-29-04 10:50 PM by prodigal_green
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bunk76 Donating Member (867 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-29-04 10:45 PM
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4. I am not sure...
I do know in the seventies that every weekend if your butt was warming a bar stool. A van would pull up with a group of younger people that were "moonies" and would sell plastic flowers and other trinkets.I would try to engage them in conversation but they would
not engage and do the bar tour ,climb in the van and off they would go into the night.
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sam sarrha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-29-04 10:49 PM
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5. besides work'n the zombie slaves, he had weapon's factories
I was kidnapped by the Moonies.. they had zombie slaves work'n the organic farms they owned..
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Tosca Donating Member (540 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-29-04 10:51 PM
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6. Rev

He's just another freak who capitalized on the religious market.

Got shanked by the US government for tax evasion in the '80's but he must have paid the right people off...
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-29-04 10:57 PM
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7. He has thousands of businesses all over the world.
He owns so much land in Brasil and Paraguay (which straddles both countries) that the respective governments invaded his business offices (I read this when I lived in Brasil).

He owns: slaves, narcotics/drug factories, churches, generals, politicians, media and religion itself. Yes, he is, and owns, the designation "Moon, the ultimate Moonie."

Next "Washington Times" Headline:

"Moon is the New Christian Messiah," says George W. Bush.

"Bow down to your Moon God."
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Tosca Donating Member (540 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-29-04 11:04 PM
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8. Ha!

/He owns: slaves, narcotics/drug factories, churches,
/generals, politicians, media and religion itself.

No wonder he's so well-loved in Washington!

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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-29-04 11:16 PM
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11. Ha ha ha! Yes they LOVE him in Washington!
Yes, and "The Big Elephant Show" coming to a convention near you, if you live in NY.

Moon will be convertin' 'em by the thousands:

A copius GOP mass-marriage-orgy of family val-yooz starring: King George and Messiah Moon.
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Kadie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-29-04 11:12 PM
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10. Didn't his cult members used to "collect" money in airports?
Am I remembering this correctly?
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jmowreader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-30-04 03:38 AM
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18. They did. But coin-box shakers aren't his major income stream
It's all of the corporations and land holdings that do it for him.

Moon is a very intelligent man. Evil as the day is long, but very intelligent. Never underestimate the Reverend Moon.
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sffreeways Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-29-04 11:30 PM
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12. Moon Moola and More
The "Reverend" Sun Myung Moon is the leader of one of the world's most insidious and influential cults--one with an estimated $10 billion in business assets worldwide. His church controls The Washington Times ( America's capital's second largest daily newspaper), Paragon Publishers of New York, the University of Bridgeport,the Christian Bernard jewelery chain, Happy World toy and clothing outlets, and China's Panda Motors. He also sponsors such bogus right-wing organizations as the "World Media Association" and the "International Cultural Foundation" which seek to lend legitimacy to this cult. He has hoodwinked a number of none-too-erudite politicians, scholars, and religious leaders worldwide into lending their name to his support.

http://www.catch22.com/~vudu/moon.html

For twenty years, Moon's main policy laundering enterprise for his incessant influence-peddling has been The Washington Times, the money-losing newspaper he owns outright through New World Communications, Inc., the paper's parent publishing company. New World also owns Insight Magazine, The Middle East Times (based in Cairo), Zambezi Times (based in Lusaka, Zambia), newspapers in Uruguay and Canada, a textbook publishing company in Russia, and United Press International, the formerly well-respected wire service that fell on hard financial times and was bailed out by Moon's seemingly unlimited cash flows.

http://www.counterpunch.org/madsen01142003.html

Sun Myung Moon Crowns Himself the Messiah in Halls of Congress, Claims Stalin and Hitler Support him
24-Jun-04
Reverend Moon

Independent: "The US Senate was used for a bizarre ritual in which the Rev Sun Myung Moon, the head of the Unification church, was 'crowned' and declared himself the messiah in the presence of more than a dozen Republican and Democratic members of Congress, it was reported yesterday. 'Emperors, kings and presidents ... have declared to all heaven and Earth that Reverend Sun Myung Moon is none other than humanity's saviour, messiah, returning Lord and true parent,' the 85-year-old Korean 'Moonie' cult leader told several hundred guests at the meeting in one of the Senate's office buildings on March 23, according to the Washington Post. He also claimed endorsement from Marx, Lenin, Stalin and Hitler, who had all been reformed and reborn through his church's teachings - an idiosyncratic version of Christianity which rejects the use of the cross as a symbol and denounces homosexuals as 'dirty dung-eating dogs'. " How can ANYONE take the Washington Times seriously?


http://www.democrats.com/preview.cfm?term=Reverend%20Moon

http://www.spitfirelist.com/f291.html

The Bush-Kim-Moon Triangle of Money
by Robert Parry

At this past week’s summit, George W. Bush and South Korean President Kim Dae Jung disagreed publicly on how to deal with communist North Korea – Bush advocated a harder line. But the two leaders have a little-known bond in common: the political largesse of the Rev. Sun Myung Moon.
For more than three decades, Moon, the founder of the South Korea-based Unification Church, has spun a worldwide spider's web of influence, connecting to hundreds of powerful leaders through the silken threads of his mysterious money.

Moon’s beneficiaries include the Bush family and, according to U.S. intelligence reports, Kim Dae Jung.

http://www.commondreams.org/views01/0310-03.htm



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PROGRESSIVE1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-30-04 09:44 AM
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19. Thanks for the info!
:)
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-29-04 11:36 PM
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13. I read a book once about a Moonie who had been rescued by
his family. Basically, he joined the cult of young idealistic people, and went through the assimilation process of first never being left alone, of never really being able to think for himself. There was the sleep deprivation and he was not allowed to contact his family after awhile. All of this was reinforced with religious teachings, songs and such. Then he was sent out to beg for money whereever he could get it selling candles, incense and flowers.

I wish I could remember the name of the book. I doubt if it's in print anymore. This was more than twenty years ago.
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-29-04 11:55 PM
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14. "This was more than twenty years ago," and yet Moon is still with us.
... annointed the New Messiah and publicly crowned. Holy bat guana! This man is more dangerous now than he ever was before. Life is becoming more like a sci-fi cartoon.
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-30-04 12:10 AM
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15. The reason I read the book was because there were these Moonie kids
coming into my place of business, a store front. They were not dressed like the kids dressed at the time, but in neat clean little drab outfits and they were always selling something for a contribution, for poor children or poor people. So it could be a flower or something insignificant that they gave you for a contribution not unlike a poppy or other little tokens charities give out.

I really didn't think they acted normally, so I tried to question them and always out of nowhere some other person would come along and herd them out apologizing if they were bothering anyone. One of my customers told me they were Moonies. I saw the book at a bookstore and read it but unfortunately as a liberal thinking person I felt I was being nosey and shouldn't interfere how people chose to spend their lives.

So apparently Mr. Moon is using us for his fascist and imperialistic designs. Remember that the Nazis at first pretended to be socialists who were for the working class.
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-30-04 12:28 AM
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16. Unfortunately, I read that book too... the Nazi one, that is
You recount such a sad story and yet I know it too, as I have seen these kids and talked to them. During Mardi Gras, we get lots of these loony groups here in New Orleans. At one point, in front of St. Louis Cathedral, I tried to learn over and speak into the ear of a young woman and tell her: "RUN AWAY NOW!" (my mind screamed)... but as you said, two men surrounded me. These were harsh looking men that give me a sick feeling deep in my chest, as if they had no souls. I could do nothing for her, but ALLOW her to say a prayer FOR ME and then let her go. I hope to this day that she somehow escaped.
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Matilda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-30-04 03:18 AM
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17. If you want to get seriously rich, start your own religion.
Works like a charm.

Just make sure first that you have no scruples.
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eagler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-30-04 03:29 PM
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20. Some of Moon's holdings include
The Washington Times, the UPI, The University of Bridgeport ,Golf Digest Magazine, Kahr firearms( 9mm pistols and Thompson machine gun),Amway,a fishing village in Alabama,the New Yorker Hotel,and a thousand more.
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