And so it begins.

[alonso_quijano]

http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20040625/ap_on_el_ge/election_terrorism_1

Voting Official Seeks Terrorism Guidelines

WASHINGTON - The government needs to establish guidelines for canceling or rescheduling elections if terrorists strike the United States again, says the chairman of a new federal voting commission.

[truthspeaker]

1. Cancellation of elections will take place...

OVER MY DEAD BODY.

[sandnsea]

2. oh crap

They don't even have to cancel the elections to get skewed results. Just heighten security and scare the shit out of people or make voting take so long Democrats can't take time off work to vote. This is bad, bad, bad.

[yellerpup]

4. Call your representatives now

No cancelled elections. No one wanted to take time to recount Florida votes in 2000 and we ended up with the loser.

[jobycom]

3. He's right, they do

I wouldn't want Bush or Cheney to write it, but we do need to have well-publicized plans for holding an election if someone strikes us on election day. Otherwise Bush has a blank check to do what he wants, and that's a blank check we don't want to hand out.

[cheezus]

5. we need to go on as planned

even they they strike on 11/1 or 11/2

[jobycom]

11. WRONG WRONG WRONG

Where do you think they'll attack? Some conservative stronghold, or maybe a liberal stronghold in a key swing state?

No, we have to have plans on what to do if we are attacked on 11/2. We have to have the exact criteria for rescheduling the elections, how they are to be rescheduled, and who makes the decisions that they are rescheduled.

Otherwise, Bush can do whatever he wants. He can cancel the elections if he thinks they are going the wrong way, he can decide to accept the election results if for some reason the terrorists blow up the balloting locations in several key Democratic cities in Florida, etc.

Not making plans is trusting Bush too much.

[Oreegone]

9. NO way can we let this happen

They would allow a terrorist attack just to stay in power.And terrorists would try to take advantage of this also. God would probably personally tell them it was OK.. Some people can justify anything with sanctimony.

This is damn near as dumb as that government lottery guessing the time of next attack.

This plan was supposed to be paranoia on the liberal side. What BS.

[benburch]

6. I predicted this...

as did many others.

I was told to adjust my tinfoil hat.

:tinfoilhat:

[dr.strangelove]

13. Keep Adjusting the Tinfoil

Its coming out of alignment again.

7. there's actually good news here, maybe

There are always going to be wingnuts that want to cancel elections.
This guy isn't necessarily saying he wants to cancel them, but be prepared in case.

& then even if he does want to cancel them consider that

"Soaries (who)was appointed to the federal Election Assistance Commission last year by President Bush Soaries said he wrote to National Security (news - web sites) Adviser Condoleezza Rice and Homeland Security Secretary Tom Ridge in April to raise the concerns.


"I am still awaiting their response," he said. "Thus far we have not begun any meaningful discussion." Spokesmen for Rice and Ridge did not immediately respond to requests for comment.


So this means they might be trying to ignore him and hope he goes away.

Just to be optimistic!!
:)

I wish them luck cancelling elections. Ha!
People also forget this has already happened. The elections in NYC that were held for the mayoral primary on 9/11/01 got postponed. I remember because I got to vote before this happened that morning.

[Catherine Vincent]

8. It's so ironic....

When Clinton was in office, the clinton-haters were terrified and thought he would institute martial law and/or cancel elections. And now it seems like their boy would do that.

[Zorra]

10. Is this an invitation to al Qaeda?

Al Qaeda has purportedly stated that they want Bu$h to be elected. Heck, now they won't even have to worry about an election. Commit a terrorist act, election canceled, Bu$h stays in power. (Where is Osama bin Laden?)

Score: Al Qaeda 156, Bu$h 0

WE WANT BUSH TO WIN

The statement said it supported U.S. President George W. Bush in his reelection campaign, and would prefer him to win in November rather than the Democratic candidate John Kerry, as it was not possible to find a leader "more foolish than you (Bush), who deals with matters by force rather than with wisdom."

In comments addressed to Bush, the group said:

"Kerry will kill our nation while it sleeps because he and the Democrats have the cunning to embellish blasphemy and present it to the Arab and Muslim nation as civilisation."

"Because of this we desire you (Bush) to be elected."

http://uk.news.yahoo.com/040317/325/eotq9.html

12. what about the electoral college etc?

since
The electoral college is the name given a group of "electors" who are nominated by political activists and party members within the states. On election day, these electors, pledged to one or another candidate, are popularly elected. In December following the presidential vote, the electors meet in their respective state capitals and cast ballots for president and vice president. To be elected, a president requires 270 electoral votes.

and technically They are who elect the president, cancelling the election on the actual day doesn't take care of them. does it actually say they have to do what the voters say on election day?
And if they don't, if the voters don't say anything does that mean the electoral college can't vote?


& then the House can certify or not certify also.

I found this also.
"The Congress may determine the Time of chusing the Electors, and the Day on which they shall give their Votes; which Day shall be the same throughout the United States."

The clause separating these two paragraphs describes the original manner in which presidential Electors were to cast their votes for President and Vice President - a procedure which was slightly altered in 1804 by the passage of the 12th Amendment.

There is nothing in the Constitution - or for that matter in federal statute - that requires States to conduct a direct popular vote for President (or for presidential Electors). The manner of choosing presidential Electors remains a matter for each State, although all States since 1860 have employed the direct popular vote for presidential Electors. Before that, however, several States chose their Electors by a vote of their State Legislature rather than by popular vote.

http://www.fec.gov/votregis/constitutionalprovisio.htm


So even if the vote were cancelled on Election Day, the electors could still vote. It's already that way. Cancelling the election on that day won't actually stop the election,.
I wish someone who actually specializes in this stuff would weigh in.

So, we joke about people needing tinfoil hats. Looks like the Bush administration is succeeding in one thing. Getting you scared he will cancel the election. Has anyone actually done any research on whether this could actually bureaucratically happen or is it all chicken little mentality?

[TrustingDog]

14. the last 'election' was in '96...

- you won't be seeing any more of that for a while.

Bush will not be leaving. All his predator colleagues have worked too long (PNAC) and have risked too much to get this far in their devious games.

Put your seatbelts on, it's going to be one hell of a ride and it will slam down on us like a thief in the night.

[truth is difficult]

15. I'd rather them delayed

then people voting for bush out of anger of the terrorists? 4 years or 1 month...