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dzeih Donating Member (34 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-30-04 03:04 PM
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Stern Sucks
Where was he when Opie and Anthony REALLY got booted off the air? Stern sucks. His show is no good anymore without Jackie and stuttering John. F Stern! (F Bush and Powell's son too!)
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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-30-04 03:07 PM
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1. Uhh, O&A Got Booted
because they instigated people to have sex inside St. Patricks Cathedral...They were fucking stupid and got booted by the station, not the FCC. Big difference.

You're entitled to your opinion about the show and I'm entitled not to care.

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Options Remain Donating Member (475 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-30-04 03:10 PM
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3. O&A were Jerks
I was thrilled when they were thrown out of boston, and even more thrilled when they were thrown off the air in NY. If I want to listen to rude sexist bigoted assholes I will listen to Rush thank you.

TearForger
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dzeih Donating Member (34 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-30-04 03:13 PM
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6. bullshit
Stern wasn't booted by the FCC then either. They just fined him (as they fined O&A)
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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-30-04 03:17 PM
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9. Did I Say He Was? You Are Beyond Ignorant
I accurately pointed out that O&A getting fired had nothing to do w/ the FCC but with their own stupidity in instigating people to fuck in public and in a church for their show. They instigated people to break the law and the management fired them. What is it about that that you don't understand?

Stern's fight is w/ the FCC and had no obligation to back O&A who got fired because of their own stupidity.
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dzeih Donating Member (34 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-30-04 03:20 PM
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11. The FCC fined...
the stations O&A were on. Isn't that why stern claims Clearchannel shitcanned him?
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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-30-04 03:33 PM
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16. No, That Is NOT Why Stern Claims CC Dropped Him
Pay attention before you spout off. Howard claims CC dropped him because he's anti-Bush. CC in the past, before Stern began to criticize Bush, fully SUPPORTED Stern in his fight against the FCC when they had fined him in the past for similar infractions.

Again, O&A being fired had NOTHING to do w/ the FCC. You are the one who implied it did by claiming Howard should have defended them when THEY were booted, thereby implying their plight was the same as his.

Howard's fight is w/ the FCC and Bush. O&A were booted by station management for being idiots.
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dzeih Donating Member (34 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-30-04 03:44 PM
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20. Well, Stern's full of shit...
he was fellating Bush prior to the whole censorship thing. Seems like he's probably just clamoring for ratings and media attention.
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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-30-04 03:48 PM
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22. You're Entitled To You're Opinion, But It Seems As If YOU Are Full Of Shit
Since you've made ignorant and false claims and have yet to acknowledge how totally wrong you are.

Stern voted for Gore and like many after 9/11 decided to give Bush the benefit of the doubt. He ONLY got fined and censored AFTER he started questioning Bush. Get a clue. First he started questioning Bush THEN he was fined and dropped by CC.

You continue to flaunt your ignorance.
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dzeih Donating Member (34 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-30-04 04:47 PM
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26. Stern is still on the air
he encourages illegal behavior as well (ie. when he commissioned Hank (bless his soul) to piss on David Blaine's ice block)
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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-30-04 06:21 PM
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34. Stay On Topic
You pathetically change the topic because you are wrong and ignornant.
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Grown2Hate Donating Member (833 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-30-04 04:55 PM
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30. That's one of the most ignorant statements I've ever heard.
LISTEN to the 9/11 episode. AS the attacks are happening, he RAILS against Bush... calls Bush a PUSSY, says that maybe if he wasn't on his RANCH the whole goddamn time, something could have been done to prevent this type of attack... he's NOT been a Bush supporter. But it is only recently that he's been OPENLY attacking him, and that's when Clear Channel and the FCC came RAINING down on him. Sure, he did cheerlead the Iraq war. But he was DUPED (like a LOT of Americans were). He's since not only seen the light and EDUCATED himself, but he's gone OUT of his WAY to educate the masses (his audience, and we are FUCKING HUGE, let there be no doubt) via his webpage. Go look at it! Looks like a regular freaking BuzzFlash or BartCop lately! Berating those on OUR side, helping OUR cause, seems frankly self destructive and BEYOND ignorant.
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FighttheFuture Donating Member (748 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-30-04 07:17 PM
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36. Give the man the credit that is his due...
Stern is a New Yorker who actually lived through a horrific event. He was filled with fear, as much of the country was, and rallied behind a dunce, like many. I credit Stern greatly with keeping his pulse on what was going on and, finally, after a vacation and reading Al Franken's "Liars..." he went on and declared he was against Bush and started explaining why. A few days later, all his troubles started....

For those who like to say he is simply being self-serving, I will point out that Stern went against Bush before he got all this pain from the FCC.

Give the man the credit that is his due, and be glad he is there to spread what is going on. Take a look at his website...

http://www.howardstern.com

it is more informative than MSNBC, CNN, ABC and FOX (actually that is a minus) put together!
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Caution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-30-04 03:09 PM
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2. are you referring to the same Opie and Anthony who
regularly stole stern's bits, (one of whom actually entered into a Howard Stern "sound-alike" contest)? The same guys who while here in Boston were among the worst wing-nuts on the air? The same guys who regularly and daily trashed Howard Stern?

I'm guessing there was no love lost between them, and just about everyone I know who listens to Stern thinks that the show has improved greatly since Jackie left and I'm amazed that *anyone* thinks that Stuttering John lent anything at all to the show in the past ten years. Once people figured out who he was, his one bit ceased to be funny and ever since then all he did was bitch and moan while Stern and the rest of the show continues to put money on his table.

Gimme a break.
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dzeih Donating Member (34 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-30-04 03:16 PM
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8. wing nuts?
We must have been listening to a different show. Jim Norton (a regular guest) is an ardent supporter of Bush... he's also one funny little freak. But either way, Stern wasn't all about free speech when O&A got shitcanned.
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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-30-04 03:38 PM
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18. Instigating People To Break The Law By Fucking In A Church
is not a free speech issue. That is why O&A got canned by their station's management. Get a clue.
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dzeih Donating Member (34 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-30-04 03:45 PM
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21. it is a free speech issue
they have the right to encourage such behavior
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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-30-04 03:51 PM
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24. You Are Totally Ignorant
Do people have the right to yell movie in a crowded fire house?

While not the same, it's similar. First of all, they do NOT have the right to encourage people to break the law. Second of all, their freedom of speech was not impinged upon by the government. Again, THEY WERE FIRED BY THEIR BOSSES FOR ENCOURAGING CRIMINAL BEHAVIOR, NOT THE GOV'T, NOT THE FCC.
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-30-04 07:08 PM
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35. You contradict yourself,as most wingnuts always do
he encourages illegal behavior as well (ie. when he commissioned Hank (bless his soul) to piss on David Blaine's ice block)

yet here you defend the right for people to encourage burning down a church.

If you're still here to read this ...begone troll.You're not even good at it.
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tinanator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-30-04 07:23 PM
Response to Reply #18
37. fuck in paris!
rip Bill
people really listen to howard stern?
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-30-04 03:10 PM
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4. lol, Jackie was a loser.
He contributed nothing to the show. He talked about those idiots, but what was he going to do. That also wasn't a gov't witch hunt and people got arrested in that case.
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Killarney Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-30-04 03:12 PM
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5. O&A sucked n/t
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sendero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-30-04 03:14 PM
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7. You are so uninformed...
... on so many levels, where to begin? Why would Stern come to the defense of cheap imitators?

When did O&A ever help a Democrat?

If half the Dem Senate had half the balls Stern has, we wouldn't be in the mess we are right now.

As soon as we get rid of Bush*, we can concentrate in turning over about half the Dem senate.
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dzeih Donating Member (34 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-30-04 03:18 PM
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10. nothing to do with dems and republicans
It's a matter of free speech. Stern didn't care about censorship until it happened to him.
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bhunt70 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-30-04 03:20 PM
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12. so you mean his whole career?
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Democat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-30-04 03:27 PM
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13. And some people didn't care about bashing Stern until he went after Bush
But no one in this thread, I'm sure. :)
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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-30-04 03:35 PM
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17. Wrong
You've obviously never listened to Stern.

O&A were not fired because of censorship. They were fired by THEIR STATIONS MANAGEMENT for being idiots and encouraging two of their listeners to break the law by fucking publically in a church.
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sendero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-30-04 03:49 PM
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23. Well guess what...
... that is the case for 99% of people. And of those 99%, 90% won't do anything AFTER it does effect them.

Expect altruism in the afterlife. There is very, very, very little of it here. And even if Stern's motives are not good, at least he is standing up and rubbing Clear Channel's nose in the crap. They richly deserve it and who else is going to do it?
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Loonman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-30-04 03:28 PM
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14. Opie and Anthony were fourth rate hacks
Without Stern, there never would have been an Opie and Anthony.
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amish_enforcer Donating Member (157 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-30-04 03:29 PM
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15. Trolling sucks
Now, mind you, I don't get to hear much on the "voice box" as I'm amish and tend to avoid such technology, O+A are complete tools who got what the deserved and were horribly unfunny. I hope they are enjoying the flavors of each others' "balloon knots", since they have not much else to do.

Further down in this thread you ignorantly assume Stern didn't care about censorship until it happened to him, what are you only 10 years of age? He's been dealing with this since the early 80's.

You've made me break my oath by using this devilish "computer" when I return home I'll have to atone for this.....thanks troll.
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devilgrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-30-04 03:42 PM
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19. Beat it!
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testing123 Donating Member (617 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-30-04 03:52 PM
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25. If he sucks then why has he been on the air for a long time?
:shrug:
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tjwash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-30-04 04:53 PM
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29. Not only that...
He is back to expanding again. This time infinity broadcasting is picking him up.
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ibegurpard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-30-04 04:51 PM
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27. I agree
He's a misogynist pig. But he's also a misogynist pig with a big audience who happens to have a big grudge against the Bush administration. So even though he sucks, in this particular instance I'm on his side.
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MercutioATC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-30-04 05:01 PM
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31. My thoughts exactly.
I was never a fan of his show, but he's got a huge following and he's supporting our candidate.

It's sort of like a baseball team that picks up a great hitter right before postseason. He may be a complete ass, but he's batting for us.
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jeffrey_X Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-30-04 04:52 PM
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28. You must still be listening....
F Jackie
F Timmy
F Stuttering John

Stern rocks and will help Kerry get elected....no doubt about it.
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MrSlayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-30-04 05:05 PM
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32. The show was stagnating with Jackie, Artie breathed new life in.
Edited on Wed Jun-30-04 05:05 PM by MrSlayer
And Stuttering John was an ass. Fuck Opie and Anthony too, all they did was rip Stern off like all the others.
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against all enemies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-30-04 05:07 PM
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33. Michael Powell - is that you?
or is it Jackie. NYTimes - Stern's listeners are swing voters and available. If Stern gets Bush out, he can be the Chairman of the FCC for all I care. F Jackie, F dzeih.
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