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kentuck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-14-04 12:31 PM Original message |
Tell me again, why did Kerry & Edwards vote to give Bush authority? |
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Selwynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-14-04 12:33 PM Response to Original message |
1. They wanted to keep their jobs, so they supported 80% popular President |
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merh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-14-04 12:36 PM Response to Reply #1 |
6. thank you for that simple and logical explanation. (n/t) |
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truthspeaker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-14-04 12:36 PM Response to Reply #1 |
8. I agree, and I also think it was a faulty assessment |
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Selwynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-14-04 12:39 PM Response to Reply #8 |
15. I agree - but that's politics for ya. |
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WI_DEM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-14-04 12:37 PM Response to Reply #1 |
9. I think that is the correct answer |
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underpants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-14-04 12:43 PM Response to Reply #1 |
22. Mmmmm- not 80% try mid 50's low 60's |
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Selwynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-14-04 12:55 PM Response to Reply #22 |
31. Incorrect - Bush was polling at 78% on the day of the IWR |
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underpants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-14-04 01:01 PM Response to Reply #31 |
36. Oct. 11, 2002 it was right in the middle of the 50's |
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Selwynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-14-04 01:24 PM Response to Reply #36 |
53. I didn't see in that article that it said middle of the 50s |
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underpants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-14-04 02:24 PM Response to Reply #53 |
74. I just got the date ( I forgot the date) from that article |
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Selwynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-14-04 03:17 PM Response to Reply #74 |
90. No, I understand - I wasn't irritated, I just remember clearly the media.. |
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Tierra_y_Libertad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-14-04 02:14 PM Response to Reply #1 |
65. Well, I'm sure the dead and wounded will be comforted. |
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Selwynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-15-04 10:54 AM Response to Reply #65 |
102. I never said it was right - I only said that's what happened. |
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stavka (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-14-04 02:16 PM Response to Reply #1 |
68. That's EXACTLY how I see it........ |
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Worst Username Ever (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-14-04 12:35 PM Response to Original message |
2. They were lied to, pure and simple |
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TeacherCreature (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-14-04 01:09 PM Response to Reply #2 |
43. almost no one believes that |
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WI_DEM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-14-04 12:35 PM Response to Original message |
3. this still bothers me too |
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emulatorloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-14-04 12:38 PM Response to Reply #3 |
12. Mr and Mrs Average Voter now feel fooled by Cheney Bush et al |
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Qutzupalotl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-14-04 01:32 PM Response to Reply #3 |
56. What they could say in response |
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22181 (215 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-14-04 12:35 PM Response to Original message |
4. I think... |
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truthspeaker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-14-04 12:38 PM Response to Reply #4 |
13. speak for yourself, I wasn't duped |
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emulatorloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-14-04 12:42 PM Response to Reply #13 |
20. I wasn't duped either, but I didn't see all the "Top-Secret" crap they saw |
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Toot (128 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-14-04 12:47 PM Response to Reply #20 |
24. Bob Graham saw the "Top-Secret" crap and he still voted against IWR, |
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emulatorloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-14-04 12:54 PM Response to Reply #24 |
29. Good for him! |
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Dhalgren (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-14-04 02:36 PM Response to Reply #29 |
80. Even if all the things you say are true, |
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emulatorloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-14-04 04:34 PM Response to Reply #80 |
98. The claims were that they needed the resolution to get more support from |
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democratreformed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-14-04 02:18 PM Response to Reply #24 |
71. So did my congressman - Vic Snyder |
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22181 (215 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-14-04 01:59 PM Response to Reply #13 |
61. Well two things to note about me... |
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Selwynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-14-04 12:40 PM Response to Reply #4 |
17. HA. HA HA! I was never duped, no one should have been. |
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Beam Me Up (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-14-04 02:33 PM Response to Reply #4 |
77. I was not duped. Neither were they. |
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greatauntoftriplets (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-14-04 02:45 PM Response to Reply #4 |
89. I sure as hell wasn't duped either. |
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Gloria (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-14-04 12:35 PM Response to Original message |
5. The LA TImes asked the same question yesterday in an editorial |
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emulatorloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-14-04 12:36 PM Response to Original message |
7. Because Colin Powell promised them |
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G_j (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-14-04 12:37 PM Response to Original message |
10. and why |
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Dhalgren (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-14-04 02:39 PM Response to Reply #10 |
84. That is the question! |
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belladonna (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-14-04 12:37 PM Response to Original message |
11. A serious question |
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kentuck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-14-04 12:44 PM Response to Reply #11 |
23. Yes. |
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Hippo_Tron (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-14-04 01:12 PM Response to Reply #23 |
45. They made their bed, they have to lay in it |
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democratreformed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-14-04 02:25 PM Response to Reply #23 |
75. Yes, I also want that. |
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WilliamPitt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-14-04 12:38 PM Response to Original message |
14. Read Ritter |
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emulatorloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-14-04 12:40 PM Response to Reply #14 |
16. Don't confuse me with the facts n/t |
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truthspeaker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-14-04 12:50 PM Response to Reply #14 |
26. Actually that's a very good point |
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kentuck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-14-04 12:54 PM Response to Reply #26 |
30. Just before the war, Saddam gave them unlimited acces but Bush said |
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emulatorloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-14-04 12:58 PM Response to Reply #30 |
32. Yes, Bush did that; however, what does that have to do w John Kerry? |
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kentuck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-14-04 01:01 PM Response to Reply #32 |
35. That's true. |
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GreenArrow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-14-04 02:33 PM Response to Reply #26 |
78. failed diplomacy was built into the plan |
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TeacherCreature (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-14-04 01:12 PM Response to Reply #14 |
44. Read Ritter |
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WilliamPitt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-14-04 01:23 PM Response to Reply #44 |
51. ...and that the threat of force was needed to make sure |
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Dhalgren (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-14-04 02:45 PM Response to Reply #14 |
88. But the "fact" is that a President does not have to have a |
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underpants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-14-04 12:41 PM Response to Original message |
18. Well it is like.......uh........well sorta.......... |
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Monte Carlo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-14-04 12:41 PM Response to Original message |
19. Sabre-rattling, I think. |
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Toot (128 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-14-04 12:42 PM Response to Original message |
21. I'll answer and I know I'll probably get flamed but it's... |
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kentuck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-14-04 12:48 PM Response to Reply #21 |
25. It is true that when most of DU was against the war, we were about 10% |
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Malva Zebrina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-14-04 12:50 PM Response to Original message |
27. I honestly think they wanted to invade Iraq |
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chelsea0011 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-14-04 12:52 PM Response to Original message |
28. 1. They were lied to 2. They didn't want to defend be called traitors |
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kentuck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-14-04 12:58 PM Response to Original message |
33. I'm sure they saw Jay Rockefeller on MTP.... |
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emulatorloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-14-04 01:04 PM Response to Reply #33 |
38. Show me where they say they still would have voted for it |
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kentuck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-14-04 01:07 PM Response to Reply #38 |
41. Perhaps someone else can help us out...? |
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emulatorloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-14-04 01:13 PM Response to Reply #41 |
46. NYT interview |
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kentuck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-14-04 01:18 PM Response to Reply #46 |
48. That's a much better response than the one on MTP.... |
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gratuitous (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-14-04 01:00 PM Response to Original message |
34. Because they got played by the Mighty Republican Wurlitzer |
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CWebster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-14-04 01:01 PM Response to Original message |
37. They still support it |
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Kanary (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-14-04 02:36 PM Response to Reply #37 |
81. "Killing is killing, and dead is dead" |
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kentuck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-14-04 01:06 PM Response to Original message |
39. I suppose they could say.... |
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Hippo_Tron (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-14-04 01:15 PM Response to Reply #39 |
47. The Bush team would be able to spin that like crazy |
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kentuck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-14-04 01:20 PM Response to Reply #47 |
49. What can't they spin like crazy ? |
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CWebster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-14-04 01:21 PM Response to Reply #39 |
50. In the meantime more die everyday. |
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sangh0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-14-04 01:07 PM Response to Original message |
40. Why should anyone bother? |
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kentuck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-14-04 01:09 PM Response to Reply #40 |
42. Thanks for your magnificent input... |
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sangh0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-14-04 01:39 PM Response to Reply #42 |
58. And neither do you |
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sangh0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-14-04 02:17 PM Response to Reply #58 |
69. And i the futile hope that you actually care |
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kentuck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-14-04 02:24 PM Response to Reply #69 |
73. Thanks for the post, sangh0.. |
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sangh0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-14-04 02:41 PM Response to Reply #73 |
86. That's what Bush* says |
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kentuck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-14-04 03:24 PM Response to Reply #86 |
92. Go Cheney Yourself.... |
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sangh0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-14-04 04:08 PM Response to Reply #92 |
95. I guess that's just another sign of your "interest" in discussing this |
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sangh0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-14-04 04:14 PM Response to Reply #95 |
96. Did you really NOT know the answer to these questions you asked? |
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Hippo_Tron (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-14-04 01:23 PM Response to Original message |
52. The better question is, did they know what Bush was up to? |
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emulatorloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-14-04 01:28 PM Response to Reply #52 |
54. It is my understanding that Powell promised that diplomacy would run |
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kentuck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-14-04 01:31 PM Response to Reply #52 |
55. And did they have any reason not to trust Bush ?? |
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Hippo_Tron (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-14-04 02:40 PM Response to Reply #55 |
85. That became easy to forget after 9/11 |
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G_j (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-14-04 04:26 PM Response to Reply #55 |
97. I also didn't find it reassuring that his Admin |
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DjTj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-14-04 01:38 PM Response to Original message |
57. If they voted no and WMD's were found it would have been political suicide |
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CWebster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-14-04 01:46 PM Response to Reply #57 |
59. And an unspeakable number of Iraqis died and were maimed |
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Tierra_y_Libertad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-14-04 02:10 PM Response to Reply #59 |
64. NO! Not died or maimed. "Collateral Damage". |
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CWebster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-14-04 02:14 PM Response to Reply #64 |
66. Have you noticed the latest ploy adopted by the likes of Blair |
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DjTj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-14-04 02:44 PM Response to Reply #59 |
87. In all 4 scenarios Iraqis would have died... |
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Tierra_y_Libertad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-14-04 03:53 PM Response to Reply #87 |
93. No one is arguing with that. |
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moondust (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-14-04 01:59 PM Response to Reply #57 |
60. Very good! |
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msmcghee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-14-04 02:02 PM Response to Original message |
62. It was a win / win for the pukes . . |
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CWebster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-14-04 02:10 PM Response to Reply #62 |
63. There were many, including Kennedy who voted against it |
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Tierra_y_Libertad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-14-04 02:17 PM Response to Reply #63 |
70. 23 to be exact. Some facing reelection. |
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msmcghee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-14-04 02:26 PM Response to Reply #63 |
76. Kennedy was not planning . . |
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CWebster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-14-04 02:35 PM Response to Reply #76 |
79. He wanted to be president |
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Tierra_y_Libertad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-14-04 02:38 PM Response to Reply #76 |
83. Kerry can stop the denunciations by the left and make Iraq an issue. |
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democratreformed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-14-04 04:46 PM Response to Reply #63 |
99. Congressman Vic Snyder was one. |
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EndElectoral (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-14-04 02:16 PM Response to Original message |
67. Here's EXACTLY why in his words!! and why he voted against funding later! |
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Tierra_y_Libertad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-14-04 02:22 PM Original message |
The "Duh, I was duped" defense. |
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CWebster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-14-04 02:22 PM Response to Reply #67 |
72. Why did we ever even attack Iraq? |
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moondust (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-14-04 02:36 PM Response to Reply #72 |
82. It started out as a diversion. |
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EndElectoral (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-14-04 10:04 PM Response to Reply #72 |
101. Bush decided to attack Iraq, not Kerry |
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The Stranger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-14-04 03:22 PM Response to Original message |
91. THE WAR POWERS ACT |
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Tierra_y_Libertad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-14-04 03:56 PM Response to Reply #91 |
94. I'm still waiting for Kerry to flip-flop. |
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Disturbed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-14-04 04:51 PM Response to Reply #94 |
100. Massive Military buildup |
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