bush says blacks were gagging on the donkey but didn't want to swallow

[greenbriar]

the donkey




what a dufus

[meegbear]

1. Who said that?

What are you referring to? Please advise.

[greenbriar]

4. bush

in his speech to the urban league



after he basically said all blacks had drug and aids problems

[gauguin57]

5. Chimpy just quoted someone as saying

"Blacks are gagging on the donkey, but aren't yet ready to swallow the elephant."

He's trying to get them to swallow the elephant.

And they are clapping and "woo-wooing" him at the Urban League. What's WRONG with them? This man is EVIL! He doesn't give a CRAP about minorities!

[whistle]

12. Chimps said that???

....this man is a bigger prick then I even have given him credit for being. Shrub seems to be a total idiot who will say anything his speech writers put on paper. Doesn't anyone proof read this stuff for *, we all know he would never read it! What an automaton!!!:shrug:

Swallow this Dubya:kick:

[greenbriar]

13. love it...swallow this

dubya:kick: :dem:

[Zinfandel]

73. Do you really think little Georgie wrote his own speech?

These are words the chimps handlers gave to him to say...

And he is a good little chimp.

[TrustingDog]

84. true, he probably doesn't know what he's reading... Anchorman

like Ferrell in Anchorman - just put Anything on the promptor, and he'll read it.

[Castro]

40. I would love to see a transcript.

[greenbriar]

57. http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2004/07/20040723-8.html

Ours is a solid record of accomplishment. And that's why I've come to talk about compassionate conservatism and what I envision for the future. I'm here for another reason. I'm here to ask for your vote. (Applause.)

No, I know, I know, I know. The Republican party has got a lot of work to do. I understand that. (Laughter and applause.) You didn't need

to nod your head that hard, Jesse. (Laughter.)

Do you remember a guy named Charlie Gaines? Somebody gave me a quote he said, which I think kind of describes the environment we're in today. I think he's a friend of Jesse's. He said, "Blacks are gagging on the donkey but not yet ready to swallow the elephant." (Laughter and applause.)

Now that was said a while ago. (Laughter.) I believe you've got to earn the vote and seek it. I think you've got to go to people and say, this is my heart, this is what I believe, and I'd like your help. And as I do, I'm going to ask African American voters to consider some questions.

Does the Democrat party take African American voters for granted? (Applause.) It's a fair question. I know plenty of politicians assume they have your vote. But do they earn it and do they deserve it? (Applause.) Is it a good thing for the African American community to be represented mainly by one political party? That's a legitimate question. (Applause.) How is it possible to gain political leverage if the party is never forced to compete? (Applause.) Have the traditional solutions of the Democrat party truly served the African American community?

That's what I hope people ask when they go to the community centers and places, as we all should do our duty and vote. People need to be asking these very serious questions.

Does blocking the faith-based initiative help neighborhoods where the only social service provider could be a church? Does the status quo in education really, really help the children of this country? (Applause.)

Does class warfare -- has class warfare or higher taxes ever created decent jobs in the inner city? Are you satisfied with the same answers on crime, excuses for drugs and blindness to the problem of the family? (Applause.)

Those are legitimate questions that I hope people ask as this election approaches. I'd like to hear those questions debated on talk radio, I'd like it debated in community centers, in the coffee shops. It's worthy of this country for this debate to go forward and these questions to be asked and answered.

I'm here to say that there is an alternative this year. There is an alternative that has had a record that is easy to see. If you dream of starting a small business and building a nest egg and passing something of value to your children, take a look at my agenda. If you believe schools should meet high standards instead of making excuses, take a look at my agenda. If you believe the institutions of marriage and family are worth defending and need defending today, take a look at my agenda. (Applause.)

If you believe in building a culture of life in America, take a look at my agenda. If you believe in a tireless fight against crime and drugs, take a look at this agenda. If you believe that our men and women in uniform should be respected and supported 100 percent of the time, take a look at my agenda. (Applause.)

If you're struggling to get into the middle class and you feel like you're paying plenty of taxes, take a look at my agenda. (Applause.)

If you're a small business owner who is trying to expand your job base and are worried about excessive lawsuits, increasing taxes and over-regulation, take a look at this agenda. (Applause.)

And finally, if you believe in the power of faith and compassion to defeat violence and despair and hopelessness, I hope you take a look at where I stand. (Applause.)

You see, I believe in my heart that the Republican party, the party of Lincoln and Frederick Douglass, is not complete without the perspective and support and contribution of African Americans. (Applause.)

[Castro]

60. He was quoting a friend of Jesses.

From the transcript it doesn't seem like a big deal. But that is what I am going by.

[greenbriar]

70. open your eyes

then

[Castro]

74. Ok...they are open...now what?

[sangh0]

83. Step #2

Engage brain

Aside from the fact that Bush* claims Jesse's friend said this, do you have any evidence that Jesse's freind did actually say this, or do you make a habit of believing whatever the moron says?

[Catt03]

96. The audience as seen on CNN

was really not clapping much. Bush had a whole row of very white guys sitting in the from clapping their hands off. Applause I heard sounded very weak ...like ten people.

[TrogL]

94. EWWWWWW!!!!!!

That's incredible homophobic and just plain gross.

[TrogL]

95. which begs the question

Who wrote that?

Is that just another Bushism made up on the fly?

[Moonbeam_Starlight]

100. How

sexual can he GET with those references????

[kentuck]

2. Gagging on the bullshit....

"Tke a look at my agenda..." Yeah, sure.

[Old and In the Way]

34. We've been trying to, Dubya, for almost 4 years, but you guys keep

cloaking it in national security secrecy rulings.

[mopaul]

3. kinky

very sexual statement if you're perverted like me

[tnlefty]

8. Me, too. And to think these a**holes were upset about using bush* as

innuendo. Must've been trying to explain something to the twins when they were campaigning with him and they had more time to spend together.

[muriel_volestrangler]

19. Or like the Internet

To see if I could find a report, I typed "gagging donkey elephant" into Google - the main site, before hitting the 'News' link. 7 out of the first 10 sites are obvious porn.

[zbdent]

6. What, this isn't a Santorum DOMA speech?

This was Bush?

[peekaloo]

7. are you serious?

Okay my mind stays in the gutter but Jebus........}(

Has he been to Tijuana lately? }(

[handywork]

9. Who writes this shit!!

why would he say that....it just sounds erotic

[buycitgo]

10. too bad he didn't say

shake hands with the elephant

ever heard that one?

[buycitgo]

11. know how that one works?

lots of laughs

[GiovanniC]

14. George, I Want To Thank You on Behalf of Comedy Central

for the perfect quote for The Daily Show with Jon Stewart.

[Minstrel Boy]

15. Better than the original draft.

"Ya see, blacks are spankin' the monkey but don't wanna choke the chicken."

Who's a bad monkey? Who's a baaad monkey?

[lapislzi]

16. That is just bizarre

not to mention inappropriate. Shows how much he respects his audience.

[goclark]

17. Tell Me It Isn't So!!

Is there a video of it?

If the audience wooped on some shit liked that, I am ashamed of my UL people.

All I can think of is that he promised the UL big time money on the side and the only ones in attendance were the ones that will own another Mc Donald's tomorrow.

This will not sit well with the huge majority of African Americans!

[buycitgo]

18. he also talked about letting kids who couldn't read at grade

level, uh, "shuffle through" to the next grade

not kidding

[grasswire]

20. ackkk!!!

I heard him patronize them half a dozen times before turning it off. I know for a fact that his references to assistance for home buying for minorities and some of the other vote bait measures don't sit well with the racialist members of his party.

However, I thought it was kind of amusing to see a white man dancing before a black crowd. He got jiggier and jiggier.

[goclark]

21. I just fainted!

I am picking myself off of the floor and calling 911.

Wait until African Americans hear that one!

My brothers and sisters will not like that one.

I had to edit because I could not even touch the spell check!

[whistle]

23. So is that what Colin Powell and Condi Rice do....

...they shuffle into the cabinet meetings with all the white guys? The republican party is still ingrained with the master/slave mentality of the 19th century. Uppity blacks like Julian Bond and the other leaders at the NAACP just need to learn their place I guess along with all the rest of those dangerous non-Americans who would even think of voting democrat. Up yours Dubya, you are history!:hurts:

[WoodrowFan]

87. why when I see Powell and Condi

do the words "yes-suh massa Bush" run through my mind?

[grasswire]

22. I think it was his staff clapping

Seriously. It was the same sound each time. Sounded like about thirty folks clapping mechanically.

[goclark]

24. I am calling the Urban League right now!

[goclark]

31. Call them too!

I just called an blated them! The lady said that the phones were ringing off the hook!

Phone number is 212 558 5300

They need to know that Whites were insulted as well!

[greenbriar]

33. I called and told them that as a black, I was very offended

we are NOT all on drugs, stupid or have aids

I thought he was very patronizing and I am very angry

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[greenbriar]

25. I too thought it sounded like

the same person starting the clapping each time.


and it was cued...starting and stopping by the same person is what it sounded like

[buycitgo]

35. I already said 24 upthread

not going to say hello, or what?

[tishaLA]

44. The audience response

defined the term "smattering of applause." He obviously thought he got to his money lines and he got nothing in return. Poor chimpy. The UL folks were just applauding the monkey's ability to read. That's all.

[Tomee450]

62. On Msnbc

the reporter, Bob Kurr(sp), said all Bush received was polite applause and that the audience did not respond to his usual applause lines.

[ItsMyParty]

26. I heard he was to receive a polite but cold welcome

Please tell me they did not cheer wildly for this liar. I was disgusted yesterday at seeing a backdrop of police and I beleive some firefighters for his daily lie session.

[grasswire]

27. I didn't hear any cheering..

....although I didn't watch the whole thing. Look, we've all heard what an audience of black folk sounds like when they like the speaker. Just watch a clip of Bill Clinton at the NAACP sometime. Or Al Gore, even. This was nothing like that. NOTHING.

[greenbriar]

28. exactly

no loud thats what I'm talking about sayings at all EVER

[CBHagman]

29. He claims it's a quote.

He attributes the quote to Charlie Gaines (sp). The quote is, "Blacks are gagging on the donkey, but not yet ready to swallow the elephant." It manages to be highly rude, partisan and vaguely pornographic at the same time.

Note that Bush also refers to "the Democrat Party," a nasty old trick. Can we call his party the 'can Party?

[greenbriar]

30. more like the con party

cnn says his speech was "gutsy"

[grasswire]

32. what???????????

The CNN anchor says this is a turning point in relations with black America, and a courageous thing for Bush to do. Rove must have sent out the blast fax with that meme.

[buycitgo]

43. jesus...........they'll say anything, won't they

so, will he break ten percent this time?

I bet he gets LESS than the seven/eight he got last time

[CBHagman]

47. Which anchor said that?

There seems to be a trend on the part of media suck-ups to proclaim that Bush's occasional gestures are supposed to send the African-American voter flying into his camp. Huh. They conveniently ignore the atrocious way Bush has treated the Congressional Black Caucus, refusing to meet with them prior to the war in Iraq (But he made time for the Vatican representative, as a sop to the Catholics).

Bush truly is demonic. He's just plain evil.

[buycitgo]

37. how bout the 'cant' party

but pronounce the "a" the way you do when you say republican

[Bucky]

66. Hey Boosh . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Gag on THIS!!

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[DoctorWeird]

36. Who would clap for that??

I can't believe he's sunk that low. And what the hell is CNN talking about?? Racism is alive and well, apparently.

[Anwen]

38. He said gagging on the donkey but didn't want to swallow the elephant.

I heard him say it (unfortunately).

[greenbriar]

39. where is beavis and butthead when ya need em

uhhhhhhhhhahahah he said gag..



swallow donkey
swallow donkey

[buycitgo]

41. made me SNORT!!!! here they are

[greenbriar]

42. oh gawd

I just spit on my screen...

awesome

[buycitgo]

45. I had that up at school two years ago

not this year

kids loved it; couldn't believe I watched the show

so MANY of them think bush is an idiot

their word; most common description of him

we have a TV studio, so they're conscious of presentation, and often make fun of the way he talks

[qanda]

46. The transcript is up...

http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2004/07/20040723-8.html

I am truly sickened by this.

[LittleApple81]

49. It is too much crap for me to read it. Sorry. Puke. n/t

[Connie_Corleone]

52. It's near the end of the speech

n/t

[Gin]

50. If we are the "Democrat" party...they are the "Republicons" party.

g

[Morning Dew]

55. I thought Shrub quit drinkin'

I see some friends like Willard who is -- I don't know if you remember, Willard, but we were on the porch of the governor's mansion in Texas. I'm not saying you drank all my beer, but -- (laughter.) Never mind. (Laughter.) That's unfair. (Laughter.) But thanks for having me.

[qanda]

80. That stood out to me also

I think he caught himself.

[maddezmom]

58. it's almost worse seeing it in print

I usually miss so much from yelling at the TV.

[linazelle]

59. This part got to me....

"Progress for all our citizens, including African Americans, depends on the spirit of compassion for others. Government can hand out money, but it cannot put hope in a person's heart or a sense of purpose in a person's lives...."

Thinly cloaked racism IMHO--why bring up government handouts here? Is it because that's all he feels that blacks want?

And this:

"My community and faith-based initiative recognizes the true strength of this country is in the hearts and souls of our citizens; that we recognize that oftentimes there's -- a change of heart will change behavior and governments can't change hearts. That changes when somebody who has heard a universal call to love a neighbor, puts their arm around somebody who hurts and says, I love you brother, I love you sister, what can I do to help you on your walk so your life is improved...."

He must mean like the way James Baath and the Saudis put their arms around his shoulder and asked what they could do to help him. :shrug:

[Bucky]

67. Clinton never said "hand out". He understood educ programs are investments

Hand out. What an asshole

[noiretextatique]

63. very condescending, for the most

he disgusts me :puke:

[democrat_patriot]

48. * f-inCheny '04

Swallow the Elephant! er, what?

[DoctorWeird]

51. He speaks like a hillbilly

He can't go from one thought to another without saying "see"

[Lefta Dissenter]

53. OK, in all honesty,

do you think it could have been a set-up?

"Hey, I have a really funny idea! Let's give this incredibly stupid and potentially offensive quote to him and see if he'll use it!!!"...

"HE DID!!! He SAID IT!!!"
"Unbefrickinlievable!!!"

[democratreformed]

65. OMG!

I LOOOOOOOOOVE your little guy rolling around laughing.

[progressivebydesign]

54. No! Tell me he didn't say that!!!

I have all kinds of sick, beastiality images going.. make them go away!!! :puke: I'd be so fucking insulted if he said that about me!

If he really said this.. how could anyone not just laugh or boo him off the stage. WTF kind of thing was that to say to a group of people. It's just wierd how he talks to blacks as though they're from another country.. or another planet. He's out of his mind, and should never, ever riff like that without a handler.

[Bucky]

69. He never riffs. These were prepared comments.

In context they come off as slightly less sexual; and they're attributed to a prominent black conservative intellectual whom Bush was quoting. But it's still gross & offensive.

The thing that bothers me is that he's only showing up at the Urban League because it's election time. He never panders to urban constituencies when his ass ain't on the line.

[linazelle]

56. It's just Bush's way of saying "Fuck off" to the Urban League

Nice and subtle like. :eyes:

[Castro]

68. What are you talking about?

The speech sounded ok to me.

[greenbriar]

71. right

uh huh...okay:eyes: :puffpiece:

[kentuck]

72. It was embarrassing....

talking about all the great things he had done...when they were sitting there knowing full well he was lying thru his teeth about "no child left behind" with his education program, cutting SBA as he talked about small business entrepreneurs, talking about how much he cares for our soldiers as he sent them to die in an illegitimate war as he cuts benefits for veterans at home, and on and on and on....it was embarassing. We may choke on the donkey but that damn elephant will kill us...

[Castro]

75. The transcript reads

that he was saying it in jest while laughing with Jesse...maybe I am just not reading enough into it....

[greenbriar]

78. more like

laughing AT jessie

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[Lefta Dissenter]

99. I don't get how your 'transcript'

gives commentary. The transcript that I read is the quoted text of the speech. Since when does a transcript provide the spin as to whether someone's words are in jest, or who, in particular, is laughing at what? :shrug: He said the words. Interpret them however you'd like. I personally think that this is just in keeping with the fact that he's a completely insensitive ass and moron. Just my humble opinion, of course...

[goclark]

92. If it sounds right to you

then maybe you don't know anything about African Americans.
I can tell you that the speech has the blood boiling of African Americans. It is insulting to a huge percentage of my friends, of all colors, that know that he is a bigot from the top of his head to the bottom of his feet.

I will say that anyone that does not find a problem with the speech probably thinks like the Chimp does on a variety of issues.

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[DoYouEverWonder]

89. Yep, he no longer gives a rat's ass

about all these people, that he knows really don't like him anyway.

He's like a spoiled brat, finding different ways to get his little jabs in. It makes him feel clever.

[geek tragedy]

61. Is this a reference to black men's, ahem, endowment?

What a weird statement to make.

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[greenbriar]

79. where is yours

football guys or free republic???

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[geek tragedy]

97. Well, I'm straight, but anyone can see Bush's latent homoerotic fantasies

being spelled out. His foreign policy is all about who has the biggest dick anyway.

[LittleApple81]

64. Thanks to pbl for posting the transcript. Here is the MOST offensive

portion:
snip...
Do you remember a guy named Charlie Gaines? Somebody gave me a quote he said, which I think kind of describes the environment we're in today. I think he's a friend of Jesse's. He said, "Blacks are gagging on the donkey but not yet ready to swallow the elephant." (Laughter and applause.)

Now that was said a while ago. (Laughter.) I believe you've got to earn the vote and seek it. I think you've got to go to people and say, this is my heart, this is what I believe, and I'd like your help. And as I do, I'm going to ask African American voters to consider some questions.

Does the Democrat party take African American voters for granted? (Applause.) It's a fair question. I know plenty of politicians assume they have your vote. But do they earn it and do they deserve it? (Applause.) Is it a good thing for the African American community to be represented mainly by one political party? That's a legitimate question. (Applause.) How is it possible to gain political leverage if the party is never forced to compete? (Applause.) Have the traditional solutions of the Democrat party truly served the African American community?

That's what I hope people ask when they go to the community centers and places, as we all should do our duty and vote. People need to be asking these very serious questions.

Does blocking the faith-based initiative help neighborhoods where the only social service provider could be a church? Does the status quo in education really, really help the children of this country? (Applause.)

Does class warfare -- has class warfare or higher taxes ever created decent jobs in the inner city? Are you satisfied with the same answers on crime, excuses for drugs and blindness to the problem of the family? (Applause.)

Those are legitimate questions that I hope people ask as this election approaches. I'd like to hear those questions debated on talk radio, I'd like it debated in community centers, in the coffee shops. It's worthy of this country for this debate to go forward and these questions to be asked and answered.

I'm here to say that there is an alternative this year. There is an alternative that has had a record that is easy to see. If you dream of starting a small business and building a nest egg and passing something of value to your children, take a look at my agenda. If you believe schools should meet high standards instead of making excuses, take a look at my agenda. If you believe the institutions of marriage and family are worth defending and need defending today, take a look at my agenda. (Applause.)

If you believe in building a culture of life in America, take a look at my agenda. If you believe in a tireless fight against crime and drugs, take a look at this agenda. If you believe that our men and women in uniform should be respected and supported 100 percent of the time, take a look at my agenda. (Applause.)

If you're struggling to get into the middle class and you feel like you're paying plenty of taxes, take a look at my agenda. (Applause.)

If you're a small business owner who is trying to expand your job base and are worried about excessive lawsuits, increasing taxes and over-regulation, take a look at this agenda. (Applause.)

And finally, if you believe in the power of faith and compassion to defeat violence and despair and hopelessness, I hope you take a look at where I stand. (Applause.)

(MY COMMENT: I am so fed up when he tries to cram RELIGION down people's throats. ELIMINATE ALL GOVERNMENT PROGRAMS and force people to convert so they can eat...)

You see, I believe in my heart that the Republican party, the party of Lincoln and Frederick Douglass, is not complete without the perspective and support and contribution of African Americans. (Applause.)

And I believe in my heart that the policies and actions of this administration, policies that empower individuals and help communities, that lift up free enterprise and respect and honor the family, those policies are good for the nation as a whole. That's what I believe. And I'm here to thank you for giving me a chance to come and express those beliefs.

I'm proud to be with an organization that does so good, so much good for the American people. I'm honored that your Chairman would extend an invitation to me. Thanks for coming, and may God bless you and may God continue to bless the country. (Applause.)

[noiretextatique]

81. hey bush: go cheney yourself you putrid, patronizing twit

anyone who thinks this speech was "ok" is nuts. it sounds like he's talking to 3rd graders....it IS embarrassing. and he's lying through his teeth. i can't wait to shut him up come november.

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[sangh0]

101. Could you tell us that again?

Some people may have missed it the first three times.

But let me welcome you aboard, even if it is odd that someone would be so upset with Bush* that they come to DU, register, and immediately and repeatedly post about how what Bush* said wasn't wrong.

[SoCalDem]

76. He was paraphrasing something Al Sharpton said.. "Slap that donkey"

Leave it to Bush to end up saying something insultingly stupid :eyes:

[muriel_volestrangler]

82. Has anyone heard this quote before?

I can't find it on the Web. What Charlie Gaines is he referring to? There appear to be a father and son trumpeter - one of those?

[sangh0]

102. No one seems to, but some seem to believe Bush*

Go figger

:shrug:

[muriel_volestrangler]

103. The White House has now said who he was

http://www.dfw.com/mld/dfw/9234263.htm?1c

"Bush quoted a line once used by Charlie Gaines, identified by the White House as a now-deceased Republican politician from Chicago"

see also:
http://www.legis.state.il.us/legislation/legisnet91/hrgroups/hr/910HR0786LV.html
"In 1975, Charlie Gaines reached one of his goals when he was elected to the House of Representatives where he was the only African-American Republican State Representative; he served as a State Representative until 1981"

[WoodrowFan]

86. ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww

was this a speech in a dive in Tijuana??