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G_j (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-28-04 11:41 AM Original message |
Medea Benjamin (Code Pink) unfurls banner, ejected by police |
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BlueEyedSon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-28-04 11:42 AM Response to Original message |
1. Where did she do this? |
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G_j (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-28-04 11:44 AM Response to Reply #1 |
2. oops...sorry.. At the Convention n/t |
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EastofEdon (435 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-28-04 11:56 AM Response to Original message |
3. Democracy is messy |
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Zidane (134 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-28-04 12:41 PM Response to Reply #3 |
32. Yea I bet it is |
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EastofEdon (435 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-28-04 12:58 PM Response to Reply #32 |
36. you can't build cages |
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FredScuttle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-28-04 01:03 PM Response to Reply #36 |
41. Yeah, because that's exactly what we want...a repeat of Chicago '68 |
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EastofEdon (435 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-28-04 01:13 PM Response to Reply #41 |
45. maybe you could focus on what I actually said |
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truthspeaker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-28-04 01:14 PM Response to Reply #41 |
47. That's what the DNC seems to be aiming for |
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EastofEdon (435 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-28-04 01:18 PM Response to Reply #47 |
50. although I don't think the cage was the DNC's doing |
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QC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-28-04 12:00 PM Response to Original message |
4. If she's unhappy about the occupation... |
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gratuitous (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-28-04 12:11 PM Response to Reply #4 |
8. She has done so |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-28-04 12:14 PM Response to Reply #4 |
9. Those of us who oppose the war are now "uberlefties?" I am moderate. |
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QC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-28-04 12:17 PM Response to Reply #9 |
12. Who said anything about you? |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-28-04 12:20 PM Response to Reply #12 |
15. You should have made it clear. I am one of few here now who oppose. |
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QC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-28-04 12:28 PM Response to Reply #15 |
23. I should make it more clear, in a thread about Medea Benjamin, |
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lostnfound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-28-04 12:19 PM Response to Reply #4 |
13. I bet she spends at least 85-90% of her time scorning Bush/Cheney |
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G_j (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-28-04 12:21 PM Response to Reply #4 |
16. "Give Bush the Pink Slip" |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-28-04 12:24 PM Response to Reply #4 |
20. Medea has been taking it up with Bush forever....proudly. |
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deutsey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-28-04 12:08 PM Response to Original message |
5. I thought I heard someone yell during her speech |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-28-04 12:15 PM Response to Reply #5 |
10. The video shows her being take out by police. Dragged. |
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deutsey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-28-04 12:23 PM Response to Reply #10 |
19. Hmm. The more I ponder this the more I support what she did |
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truthspeaker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-28-04 12:30 PM Response to Reply #5 |
24. I support her action 100% |
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G_j (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-28-04 12:33 PM Response to Reply #24 |
26. it is healthy ! n/t |
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flordehinojos (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-28-04 12:09 PM Response to Original message |
6. wasn't Teresa praising those who dare to dissent, and particularly |
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GreenArrow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-28-04 12:56 PM Response to Reply #6 |
35. not sure how ironic it is |
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nothingshocksmeanymore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-28-04 02:18 PM Response to Reply #6 |
94. Did Theresa walk her out? |
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flordehinojos (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-28-04 06:44 PM Response to Reply #94 |
118. No. According to the report she was "ejected" by the police. |
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donsu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-28-04 12:10 PM Response to Original message |
7. the DNC is wrong for dragging her out |
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FlaGranny (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-28-04 12:15 PM Response to Original message |
11. Well, while I understand her sentiment, |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-28-04 12:19 PM Response to Reply #11 |
14. The convention is not the place for dissent? |
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CaTeacher (983 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-28-04 12:21 PM Response to Reply #14 |
17. I think she should have the right to |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-28-04 12:23 PM Response to Reply #17 |
18. I agree. |
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G_j (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-28-04 12:26 PM Response to Reply #17 |
22. yep, what would a Dem convention be without |
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StandUpGuy (392 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-28-04 12:32 PM Response to Reply #17 |
25. Its a big trade off..... |
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deutsey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-28-04 12:34 PM Response to Reply #17 |
27. I thought it was also ironic that Fannie Lou Hamer was rightly |
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FlaGranny (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-28-04 12:50 PM Response to Reply #14 |
34. No, I didn't mean that - |
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truthspeaker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-28-04 12:58 PM Response to Reply #34 |
37. She didn't "interrupt" Teresa's speech |
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FlaGranny (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-28-04 01:00 PM Response to Reply #37 |
39. Someone above said that |
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truthspeaker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-28-04 01:18 PM Response to Reply #39 |
49. The shout was in reaction to the arrest. The banner was silent. |
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deutsey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-28-04 01:37 PM Response to Reply #49 |
56. If that's true, I'm definitely 100% on Medea's side on this. |
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FlaGranny (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-28-04 02:57 PM Response to Reply #56 |
101. I'm on her side too - |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-28-04 09:33 PM Response to Reply #56 |
120. Final word on the pink scarves-- |
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Ducks In A Row (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-28-04 12:59 PM Response to Reply #14 |
38. it's part of making Kerry "look" like a leader |
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Zidane (134 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-28-04 12:35 PM Response to Reply #11 |
28. Oh christ |
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FlaGranny (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-28-04 01:04 PM Response to Reply #28 |
42. That's an intelligent reaction |
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Zidane (134 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-28-04 01:14 PM Response to Reply #42 |
46. Yes, it is |
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FlaGranny (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-28-04 03:00 PM Response to Reply #46 |
102. You do not seem to be reading very well. |
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truthspeaker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-28-04 03:59 PM Response to Reply #102 |
104. She wasn't protesting, she was stating her opinion |
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QC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-28-04 04:05 PM Response to Reply #104 |
107. So if Steve Forbes shows up at the Green convention with an |
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truthspeaker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-28-04 12:35 PM Response to Reply #11 |
29. One man at the convention can end the occupation. |
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maxanne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-28-04 12:40 PM Response to Reply #11 |
31. yeah, |
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Mari333 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-28-04 12:25 PM Response to Original message |
21. Oh I met her in SF...shes a tiny woman |
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G_j (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-28-04 12:37 PM Response to Original message |
30. OT- speaking of Democracy Now, ya gotta listen to M Moore, this ROCKS! |
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stavka (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-28-04 12:45 PM Response to Original message |
33. If I were her, I'd be grateful |
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Gin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-28-04 01:07 PM Response to Reply #33 |
44. I don't like the cage...but there are crazies looking for a reason to kill |
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truthspeaker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-28-04 01:17 PM Response to Reply #44 |
48. It is the absolute wrong thing to do. The "crazies" aren't carrying signs |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-28-04 01:21 PM Response to Reply #44 |
51. OMG |
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GreenArrow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-28-04 01:42 PM Response to Reply #44 |
59. pens are for animals and criminals |
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Fleshdancer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-28-04 01:01 PM Response to Original message |
40. Was that who Hillary turned around to look at? |
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bloom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-28-04 01:06 PM Response to Original message |
43. I think all the printed signs look stale |
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G_j (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-28-04 01:29 PM Response to Original message |
52. I'm sorry to be so negative |
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stavka (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-28-04 01:33 PM Response to Reply #52 |
53. Tonight's speaches |
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nothingshocksmeanymore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-28-04 01:40 PM Response to Reply #53 |
57. Who exactly is the son of a Nazi war criminal? |
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deutsey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-28-04 01:41 PM Response to Reply #57 |
58. I was wondering the same... |
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stavka (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-28-04 02:34 PM Response to Reply #57 |
99. Shalikashvili's father was a Georgian SS soldier.... |
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nothingshocksmeanymore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-28-04 04:12 PM Response to Reply #99 |
109. and that has what to do with Kerry? |
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stavka (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-28-04 04:29 PM Response to Reply #109 |
112. I'm pretty sure, nothing... |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-28-04 01:34 PM Response to Reply #52 |
54. Gee that sounds a lot like something Nader would say. |
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G_j (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-28-04 01:56 PM Response to Reply #54 |
66. please see post 61 below |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-28-04 02:12 PM Response to Reply #54 |
82. You know RQ, denial ain't just a river friend |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-28-04 02:13 PM Response to Reply #82 |
87. I'm not arguing with the reasoning behind the premise, friend, |
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CWebster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-28-04 01:34 PM Response to Reply #52 |
55. These glaring oversights and suppression |
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G_j (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-28-04 01:45 PM Response to Reply #52 |
61. what I am saying is |
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nothingshocksmeanymore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-28-04 01:54 PM Response to Reply #61 |
64. All they did was walk her out |
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CWebster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-28-04 01:59 PM Response to Reply #64 |
69. Oh so, if it was a " Democrat" who held up a banner |
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nothingshocksmeanymore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-28-04 02:01 PM Response to Reply #69 |
70. Then hold up the fucking banner on inauguration day |
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CWebster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-28-04 02:03 PM Response to Reply #70 |
72. Who are you to demand when citizens can or can't |
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nothingshocksmeanymore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-28-04 02:07 PM Response to Reply #72 |
77. Didn't say that,. Who are you to put words in my mouth? |
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CWebster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-28-04 02:15 PM Response to Reply #77 |
89. Like Ron Reagan? |
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nothingshocksmeanymore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-28-04 02:19 PM Response to Reply #89 |
96. They rejected a member of the Green party violating their media rules |
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0rganism (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-28-04 04:51 PM Response to Reply #77 |
114. Guess who else is voicing opinion in the Democratic convention |
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G_j (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-28-04 02:09 PM Response to Reply #64 |
79. to try to be more clear |
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nothingshocksmeanymore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-28-04 02:15 PM Response to Reply #79 |
88. While I think it was a poor choice |
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nothingshocksmeanymore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-28-04 01:44 PM Response to Original message |
60. While I don't favor causing her to be handcuffed nor taken out |
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truthspeaker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-28-04 01:47 PM Response to Reply #60 |
62. and how would her banner have damaged Kerry? |
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nothingshocksmeanymore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-28-04 01:50 PM Response to Reply #62 |
63. Simple. Are the democrats capable of ending the occupation now? |
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CWebster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-28-04 01:57 PM Response to Reply #63 |
67. At the very least the blood wouldn't be on their hands. |
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nothingshocksmeanymore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-28-04 01:59 PM Response to Reply #67 |
68. Really? Did the New York Times admit they helped manufacture |
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CWebster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-28-04 02:02 PM Response to Reply #68 |
71. The NYTimes said they did not question the evidence |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-28-04 02:06 PM Response to Reply #71 |
75. Not questioning evidence |
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nothingshocksmeanymore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-28-04 02:08 PM Response to Reply #71 |
78. So the fuck what? With their inaccurate reporting via Miller |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-28-04 02:17 PM Response to Reply #63 |
92. Deleted message |
nothingshocksmeanymore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-28-04 04:19 PM Response to Reply #92 |
110. Nice personal attack |
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nothingshocksmeanymore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-28-04 01:55 PM Response to Original message |
65. Out of curiosity..do the Greens let Dems disrupt their conventions? |
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Freddie Stubbs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-28-04 02:03 PM Response to Reply #65 |
73. Why in the world was she allowed in? |
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CWebster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-28-04 02:04 PM Response to Reply #65 |
74. She supports Kerry |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-28-04 02:07 PM Response to Reply #74 |
76. In post #69 you say she supports Kerry. |
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nothingshocksmeanymore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-28-04 02:10 PM Response to Reply #74 |
81. Oh I see. It's OK for a Green to disrupt on the floor of the Dem |
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CWebster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-28-04 02:12 PM Response to Reply #81 |
85. Who prevented you? |
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nothingshocksmeanymore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-28-04 02:17 PM Response to Reply #85 |
93. NO you clearly are |
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Classical_Liberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-28-04 02:13 PM Response to Reply #81 |
86. How in the world does holding a sign disrupt the floor? |
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nothingshocksmeanymore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-28-04 02:16 PM Response to Reply #86 |
91. It was a violation of the media rules the convention agreed to |
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Classical_Liberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-28-04 03:52 PM Response to Reply #91 |
103. and why did the Democrats agree to such rules? |
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nothingshocksmeanymore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-28-04 04:11 PM Response to Reply #103 |
108. It;s their convention and it is their right to set the rules for the |
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Tierra_y_Libertad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-28-04 04:32 PM Response to Reply #108 |
113. I wonder if the majority of the delegates were offended. |
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Classical_Liberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-28-04 07:07 PM Response to Reply #108 |
119. The democratic party doesn't get to decide it either, which is why |
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truthspeaker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-28-04 04:00 PM Response to Reply #91 |
106. You didn't answer the question. How was that disruptive? |
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Classical_Liberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-28-04 02:12 PM Response to Reply #74 |
83. She supports Kerry in swing states. Cobb in safe states. |
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G_j (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-28-04 02:12 PM Response to Reply #74 |
84. that was in 2000, read this letter |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-28-04 02:16 PM Response to Reply #84 |
90. Which is it? |
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G_j (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-28-04 02:23 PM Response to Reply #90 |
97. that is only if one accepts the premise |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-28-04 02:26 PM Response to Reply #97 |
98. It is not the banner itself which hurts Kerry's chances of winning |
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G_j (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-28-04 02:38 PM Response to Reply #98 |
100. unfortunately |
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Classical_Liberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-28-04 04:00 PM Response to Reply #98 |
105. Her sign didn't chastise the dems. It chastised occupation |
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Classical_Liberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-28-04 02:10 PM Response to Reply #65 |
80. But 1)she advocates voting for Kerry 2)95% of the democratic delegates are |
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G_j (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-28-04 02:18 PM Response to Reply #80 |
95. that is why I consider this a healthy Dem tradition n/t |
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Tierra_y_Libertad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-28-04 04:28 PM Response to Original message |
111. She was trying to remind the Democrats what we're supposed |
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progressivebydesign (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-28-04 04:55 PM Response to Original message |
115. She got what she wanted... |
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nothingshocksmeanymore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-28-04 05:13 PM Response to Reply #115 |
116. AMEN |
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G_j (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-28-04 05:18 PM Response to Reply #115 |
117. she told you this? n/t |
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