"We've Turned the Corner" is new Bush slogan

[louis c]

How F**king stupid can you get?

That was the slogan from Herbert Hoover's re-election campaign in 1932.

If you're going to steal a slogan, try to make it from a winning campaign, not the worst President in modern times (until Bush Jr.)

Some experts, Rove & Co. Now that they have to play defense, let's see how good they are.

When this thing gets away from them, they will unravel like a ball of yarn. Finger pointing time is just around the corner, boys and girls.

The fun is just beginning.

[Fenris]

1. Unfortunately, that corner turns onto Skid Row.

[Mayberry Machiavelli]

31. Nice sig line, Fenris! n/t

[Birthmark]

2. And found yet another dead end.

We are in the Bush cul-de-sac part of American History.

[salinen]

3. That's when the turd

finally separates from the asshole and plops into the toilet.

[NightOwwl]

7. Yecch!

That is so gross and so funny at the same time.

:hurts:

[LittleApple81]

4. You have to read on other threads what fun it has been for Kerry to quote

him and compare him to Herbert Hoover who used a similar quote... LOL!

[newscaster]

5. Yes we did turn the corner

and are speeding down a f-cking one way, dead end street.

[Moonbeam_Starlight]

6. Seriously, that was Hoover's campaign slogan????

You think anyone in the bush campaign has a CLUE as to that?

Because THAT'S fricking funny.

Guess they assume no one knows anything about American presidential history. The people voting for bush in November surely don't.

Again, how funny! Are the bush people TRYING to lose?

[OKNancy]

17. They are just so damn stupid

Obviously those idiots didn't even research it. I make a prediction: This slogan will go the way of the "we are going to have a news conference once a week" business.

[louis c]

28. Have you checked out the links

on this thread.

It's more amazing than I originally thought

[osaMABUSh]

46. Hoover said it in 1932 "Prosperity is just around the corner" LOL

http://www.historylearningsite.co.uk/wall_street_crash.htm

"Hoover did not believe that the depression would last - "Prosperity is just around the corner" is what he said to businessmen in 1932 when things were just about at their worst."

You think the Kerry people were shitting themselves silly when they made the 'turning the corner' connection with Hoover?

[My Pet Goat]

8. That was one of Kerry's soundbites...

that made it onto the ABC evening news. Looks like Rove should have cracked open the history book during the "talking points" meeting before this thing was hathced. Hopefully Kerry or the campaign will continue hammering on this. Could be an "out of touch" controversy brewing here.

[louis c]

29. We'll eat them alive

with this one.

We didn't bring up Hoover, they did.

What dopes.

[Mayberry Machiavelli]

35. Hey Rove, it's called Google! Look into it!

But then again, since dude never bothered to finish college before becoming a professional political prankster, no surprise he'd be behind on the history like this.

[Cat Atomic]

9. Hey, they also thought Operation Iraqi Liberation (O.I.L.) was a

good name.

Everyone in the Bush Administration is either deeply ignorant or
intensely stupid.

[Karenina]

11. or both.

[FlashHarry]

10. Are you sure that was Hoover's slogan?

I googled it, and I could only find Speed Recovery/Re-elect Hoover and Be Safe With Hoover.

[shawmut]

16. check this out

Born July 4, 1872, died January 6, 1933.
Herbert C. Hoover (President, March 4, 1929-March 4, 1933, Republican): "The Great Engineer," Hoover was an international mining engineer with reputations for both making money and public service. He directed private relief efforts during World War I, then served as Wilson's U.S. food administrator (1917), as Director of Relief and Reconstruction (1918), and then as Secretary of Commerce under Harding and Coolidge. In 1928 he was easily nominated for President and elected on a theme of American "rugged individualism", with an expectation of a well-organized administration. Within the year the stock market crashed (October, 1929), the Great Depression began, and millions of Americans lost their jobs or farms. Hoover's conventional responses proved inadequate, and his hopeful statements ("we have turned the corner") were sneered at. Renominated, he lost badly to Franklin D. Roosevelt. Born in Iowa and orphaned young, he was raised by relatives in Oregon and then moved to California to attend Stanford University, where he met his wife, Lou Henry, also a trained engineer. They had two sons. Democratic President Harry Truman later appointed Republican Hoover to head a commission on efficiency in government, known as the “Hoover Commission.”


http://www.politicsandelections.com/usa/history/presbio.htm

[louis c]

39. Very Good

[Pikku]

51. 'Be safe with Hoover' also sounds extremely familiar.

I wonder why? :D

I had to post some of the lyrics that madaboutharry linked:

http://www.ocap.ca/songs/prosper.html

Why I read in Monday's paper that 10,000 men were hired!
(Yes, but Tuesday they forgot to say 12,000 more were fired.)
Well, I insist that this land of ours is stable!
(Stable? sounds like horses to me!)

Prosperity is just around the corner!
(Did you say corner or coroner?)
Our credit is still strong, no one can doubt it!
(I guess my landlord don't know about it.)

I see the market is going up, now you can't call that a joke!
(I recollect one time before it went clear up in smoke.)
This slump is just mostly imagination!
(Yeah, well you just try to pay your grocery bill with that!)

[Walt Starr]

12. Damn I wish Liberals who go on the talking head shows read DU

Letting everybody know on national television that the last time a presidential re-election campaign used the terms "we've turned the corner" was Herbert hoover's 1932 campaign would seal the deal on this election!

[madaboutharry]

13. Someone probably thought they

came up with something catchy and original. These are people who have learned nothing from history. They should learn to use google.
"We've turned a corner 1932" gets you this:
http://www.ocap.ca/songs/prosper.html

[NightOwwl]

14. I guess they realized this wouldn't work:

"When it comes to choosing a president, results matter"

but "We've turned the corner" isn't much of an improvement.

[displacedtexan]

15. The last time a president used that solgan...

it was Herbert Hoover:

http://ascrivenerslament.blogspot.com/

[wishlist]

18. This story is all over the networks and CNN carried the speech by Kerry

I loved it today when Kerry said that Hoover ran on the prospect that prosperity was right around the corner. Kerry said "I don't want to run talking about turning the corner. I'm running to climb the mountain and get to the top"

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&ncid=578&e=2&u=/nm/20040731/pl_nm/campaign_kerry_dc

[louis c]

24. I still don't see the Hoover reference

by Kerry.

[louis c]

23. Thank You

I'm glad I started this thread. I knew that was a Hoover slogan from the depression, and when I heard Bush say it live today on C-Span I knew his goose was cooked.

I'm so glad you guys picked up on it.

Has Kerry responded to it by reminding voters that it was a Hoover slogan?

If so, link please.

[Mayberry Machiavelli]

36. I saw him (Kerry) say it (Hoover's slogan) on TV, but will have to

look for link.

[Mayberry Machiavelli]

38. Looks like Dr. Funkenstein has provided the link below me. n/t

[BeatleBoot]

19. A U-Turn

180 degrees.

And down a dark, dank alley...

[Bluebear]

20. Right into an oncoming train.

[Sugarbleus]

47. Now THAT is funny! lol lol

[radfringe]

21. not only doesn't bush* have a road map

he's not even on a road.

the bush*-mobile went off the road about 4 years ago

[IggleDoer]

22. Turn the corner right into an Economic Downturn

n/t

[flamingyouth]

25. Hoover may have been incompetent with the economy

but at least he wasn't an evil, malevolent war-mongerer.

Oh, and be careful when you turn the corner. You'll likely step on a small homeless family if you're not careful.:grr:

[BlackVelvetElvis]

26. Yet another thing in common with Hoover.

Why doesn't he try "a chicken in every pot"?
<insert evil laughter now>

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

27. What happened to "Mission Accomplished" & "Bring 'em on"?

Is "Light at the end of the tunnel" soon to be resurrected? How about, "Peace with honor".

[DrFunkenstein]

30. Kerry Pounds The Phrase Into Oblivion

"Yesterday, the president said to Americans that we were turning the corner, referring to the economy," Kerry said in Greensburg. "Well, let me ask you, if you're one of those 44 million Americans that don't have health insurance are you turning the corner? If you're one of those people who has a job ... that's been forced overseas, are we turning the corner for those folks?"

Despite slower-than-expected economic growth and a record budget deficit, Bush insisted that the nation's economic prospects were improving as he campaigned in neighboring Ohio, another battleground state hit hard by job losses.

But Kerry drew a parallel between Bush and Herbert Hoover, who as president during the Great Depression presided over an economy that experienced the biggest job losses in U.S. history.

"The last time we had a president who ran on a slogan of turning the corner was Herbert Hoover, and he ran on the prospect that prosperity was just around the corner," Kerry said. "I don't want to run talking about turning the corner. I'm running to climb the mountain and get to the top."

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=564&e=1&u=/nm/campaign_kerry_dc

[GreenPartyVoter]

32. "We turned the corner....and got flattened by a Mack truck!"

[tishaLA]

33. ..."and we're headed down a dark alley!"

"Look out! I think I see some Mexicans and some Blacks, who didn't applaud me enough at the Urban League, Karl says, who want some handouts! One has a gun, I think. Maybe send him to Gitmo. Whaddaya say, Dick?"

[louis c]

42. kick

[aint_no_life_nowhere]

34. More like falling off a cliff

a 90 degree turn, straight down.

[markses]

37. Vietnam resonance, too

There was a famous cartoon at the time of the Tet offensive. In the cartoon, Westmoreland was running top speed around a corner, smack dab into a Viet Cong running with a rifle. The cartoon's caption:

"WE'VE TURNED THE CORNER!"

Westmoreland's "We've turned the corner" was almost as politically disastrous as his "There's a light at the end of the tunnel." Very bad slogan. Kerry and his people should dig up all those old Westmoreland quotations on that. They were everywhere in the late-winter of 1967 - after the Dak To campaign, right up through the beginning of the Tet Offensive in late-January 1968 (part of Westmoreland's campaign for 250,000 MORE troops, denied).

Westmoreland's slogan, right before the Tet offensive, was "We've Turned the Corner." Kerry needs to grab this by the horns and make these fuckers pay for their lack of historical insight.

[louis c]

40. Absolutely

[struggle4progress]

41. This could be fun to mangle. What was it again?

"We've turned out to be the wrong choice ..."

"We've turned tail and played AWOL ..."

"We've turned everybody's stomach ..."

[MurrayDelph]

43. Always remember

In order for someone to turn a corner,

they have to turn their back on you.

[AspenRose]

44. "We've descended into hell" is more like it

eom

[renegade000]

45. in the wrong direction...

eom

[Pikku]

48. Keep turning corners long enough=walking in circles

>>That was the slogan from Herbert Hoover's re-election campaign in 1932.


Heh. Too good to be true.

Remember that song from Annie?

We'd like to thank you: Herbert Hoover
For really showing us the way
We'd like to thank you: Herbert Hoover
You made us what we are today

Prosperity was 'round the corner
The cozy cottage built for two
In this blue heaven
That you gave us
Yes! We're turning blue!

[genius]

49. Onto Fascist Lane

[jdj]

50. We've turned the coroner

position into a 24 hour on-call.

which is why we're getting rid of overtime pay.