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dumpster_baby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-31-04 09:16 PM
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Kerry Admin == NARC PARTY? This is your convention on drugs!


Comin' at ya from the Left, here is Matt Taibbi, Yes, this article is quite critical of Kerry, but you have heard of that old saw about what does not kill you will make you stronger?

According to Taibbi, it turns out the Kerry campaign is chock-a-block with old-timey Narcs. Yippee!

Well, without further ado, I give you Matt Taibbi, who is just about one of the best journalists in the world, IMHO:


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I was about 15 yards from Kerry during his Super Tuesday speech, just to his left, in the press section. I was at the stage of my campaign-trail work where I was actually pretending, in public, to "cover" the campaign so that the other reporters would not catch on to what was going on in my mind. After about three weeks on the bus with Kerry, I was in a state of almost complete mental paralysis. It was almost like a state of amnesia, or the annihilating early onset of schizophrenic illness, brought on by some deeply traumatic experience—like watching your father butcher your mother to death, or catching your wife screaming with pleasure in bed with Hitler.
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"We're going to have a president with sense again," he said. "This current guy is a disaster. Right now, all domestic law enforcement goes through Ashcroft and Ridge. It's all about terrorism now. I mean, the War on Drugs isn't even a priority!"...."Thank God for Kerry," he said. "It's going to be like the old days again."
...

Really? Howard Dean told me in the plainest language possible that he did not think that nonviolent drug offenders should go to jail. "I mean, if you're selling heroin in a school zone, that's maybe something you should go to jail for, but otherwise, it's a medical issue," he said.

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And how about Kerry's likely replacement for Tom Ridge? Rand Beers, Kerry's Homeland Security advisor, is one of the most zealous and remorseless narcs in American history. As undersecretary of state for international drug enforcement under Clinton, Beers signed off on a defoliating program in South America in which a substance similar to Agent Orange was sprayed over would-be coca fields along the Colombian-Ecuadorian border. When an environmental group filed suit on behalf of Ecuadorian peasants who claimed—with the support of the Red Cross—that the sprays had caused the destruction of all crops as well as severe birth defects in humans and livestock, Beers responded by insinuating that the plaintiffs had ties to al Qaeda through the Colombian FARC rebels.
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more here:
http://nypress.com/17/30/news&columns/MattTaibbi.cfm
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NMDemDist2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-31-04 09:21 PM
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1. Kerry has studied narco-terrorism for a long time.
He knows that the big drug cartels work with the Russian Mafia and is concerned about drug money going for WMD's from Russia. And considering that Afghanistan just had their largest poppy crop EVER last year, there is some justification IMHO

While the street user is indeed a medical problem, international narcotics traffickers are just very bad news..

just a thought. You may be interested in reading Kerry's book. the Iran/Contra committees he sat on got him involved with this international issue.
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NMDemDist2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-31-04 10:30 PM
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6. i did just read up on Rand Beers tho and I'm not getting any warm
fuzzies...

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G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-31-04 11:35 PM
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10. I've been trying to warn folks about Beers for a while
Edited on Sat Jul-31-04 11:40 PM by G_j
very few want to hear about it.
Dynacorp connections too.
you don't have to rely on this article
Just do some research yourselves.

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NMDemDist2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-01-04 08:04 AM
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17. yes I did. The one thing I can think re: JK is that many say he keeps
many voices around and he makes up his own mind.

This Beers guy is a bit scary tho....
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Zynx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-31-04 09:25 PM
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2. The big time narco-trafficers are some of the worst people in the world.
They deserve to be killed and I would support a massive prosecution against them. Their actions are not innocent little drug trades here and there. The drug trade is responsible for tens of thousands of murders a year in South America and many thousands elsewhere. Users should be treated as medical cases, but the supply side should be wiped out.
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Trillo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-31-04 11:55 PM
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13. But how best to wipe the supply side out?
One poster here mentioned mass prosecutions. Fine. What about those who will take their place? This is a band aid approach, one that keeps recurring in cycles. The illegality creates an artificial shortage, which drives price up.

Who benefits from high prices?

Legalizing it wipes the profit factor, so whoever takes the supplier's place doesn't make much. It would be hard to be the "big supplier" of street dealers if users could just buy at the local convenience store.
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paulk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-31-04 09:30 PM
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3. this shit belongs on FreeRepublic
not DU.

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dumpster_baby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-31-04 10:09 PM
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5. oh, come on....
FR? Aren't you overreacting?
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paulk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-31-04 11:27 PM
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7. some real fair and balanced reporting here -
"Remember Super Tuesday? John Kerry was in Washington that day, in a dark, depressing shopping mall called the Old Post Office Pavilion. Flanked by his family and about 1200 Washington insiders who had arrived early to formally kiss his ass, Kerry, mouth all Chiclets, gave a smug acceptance speech and gleefully cracked the proverbial champagne magnum on the S.S. Foregone Conclusion, which comes into port in Boston this week.



After about three weeks on the bus with Kerry, I was in a state of almost complete mental paralysis. It was almost like a state of amnesia, or the annihilating early onset of schizophrenic illness, brought on by some deeply traumatic experience—like watching your father butcher your mother to death, or catching your wife screaming with pleasure in bed with Hitler."

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This is a leftist POV?

With friends like this, who needs Republicans?




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pocket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-31-04 11:28 PM
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8. I saw this posted on
shroomery.org and indymedia.org already. not exactly freeper territory.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-31-04 09:31 PM
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4. Welcome back
I knew the lovefest couldn't last forever!!
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Cocoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-31-04 11:31 PM
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9. this guy wrote a hit piece on Wes Clark
during the primaries. The Nation ran it, it was the worst thing I've ever seen in that excellent publication. I wonder if they ever apologized for it?

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BiggJawn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-31-04 11:48 PM
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11. You turn off the drugs, you turn off Poppy's retirement fund.
Oh, and Ollie North gets it square in the Swiss banque account, too.

you don't think they quit running the shit just because there's no Khomeini to sell arms to anymore, do you?
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-31-04 11:50 PM
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12. Have you seen anywhere else that Howard Dean supports
drug reform? It's new to me.
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walldude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-01-04 12:05 AM
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14. Why scream Freeper when it's true?
While I am still buzzing from Kerry's speech I'm glad to be reminded about issues that effect me directly and this is one of them. The "war on drugs" is un-winnable and Kerry is all for it. It's bad policy, and not only are we losing money but we could be bringing in much more revenue by legalization and taxation. Right now the mission is still get Bush out of office but once he's out we need to be just as dilligent with our own party as we are with theirs. This idiocy known as the "War On Drugs" has to stop. The police need to be chasing real criminals and maybe terrorists and stop having to harass some guy who wants to smoke a joint after work....
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mdmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-01-04 12:11 AM
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15. hi , I'm mdmc and I support the drug war
vote Kerry Edwards!

My, how I have fallen, lol!
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-01-04 01:08 AM
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16. Kerry agrees
This is a wildly speculative piece. Kerry just said on Thursday that he is tired of spending $50,000 on prison instead of $10,000 on programs to give people a good start in life. On other occasions, he's said it's ridiculous people come out of prisons addicted to drugs because there's no treatment. He's said we've never fought a war on drugs because we've never provided real intervention or treatment. And he's said that the way he did it when he was a prosecutor was to ignore the guy who wants to smoke a joint after work and go after those who are dealing hard drugs.

The connection between international crime, drugs, guns, and terrorism is a different matter and something he's been fighting for a very long time.
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