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Bozita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-31-04 10:12 PM
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C-SPAN: Rather, Brokaw, Jennings, Lehrer on media coverage ...
Edited on Sat Jul-31-04 10:14 PM by Bozita
...of the pres election.

Just starting at 11:11pm EDT.

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mountainvue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-31-04 10:14 PM
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1. Is this at the Kennedy
School at Harvard? Great show.
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LittleApple81 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-31-04 10:17 PM
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3. Yeah... they more or less admitted to their biases and why.
That is where the WRITING OF LETTERS (1 letter counts for a lot of e-mails... it is worth paying the cost of the stamp, DUers) AND CORPORATE PRESSURE influences what we get as news.
Lehrer told the network guys that not covering enough of the conventions was unconscionable...
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-31-04 11:13 PM
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21. What are their "whys"?
If we write letters, it would help to know the whys.
Thanks for the heads up, I turned in late and missed the whys.

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Only Me Donating Member (631 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-31-04 11:52 PM
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30. Yeah, what was the "whys"?
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indigobusiness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-31-04 10:37 PM
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13. Yeah, And Eric Alterman manages to insult Harvard during Q&A
He slips it in.
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mandyky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-31-04 10:14 PM
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2. If you haven't seen this get ready to get mad
These bastards are just making excuses for their corporate pimps!
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The Shadow Donating Member (488 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-31-04 10:19 PM
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4. Shame On All Of Those Sellouts!
Integrity in journalism, from these sellouts, I doubt very much that they will change their ways now.
You know, back in the days of Cronkite, Brinkley, Newman, and company, the American public could count on them to tell us the truth. Where were these SOB's all of the occasions that they refused to challenge the BS that bushhole has been spreading for almost 4 years. To hell with them all!
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indigobusiness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-31-04 10:25 PM
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8. Were you on BuyCitgo's thread when this was live?
I think y'all have convinced me.

No more devil's advocate on this topic, for me. Take no prisoners...the media is our best line of defense. When it fails us, we are in serious trouble.

Somebody wake-up BuyCitgo...he has another shot at apoplexia.
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The Shadow Donating Member (488 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-31-04 11:07 PM
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18. No
But I watched some of it until I couldn't take it anymore.
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indigobusiness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-31-04 10:19 PM
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5. Al Franken gets a great dig in
at the end.
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-31-04 10:22 PM
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6. I watched it.
They are a bunch of hypocrites and cowards!
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SoonerShankle Donating Member (294 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-31-04 10:24 PM
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7. check out fair.org to see more....
indepth coverage of how the media is "goring" Kerry with their inability to sift through all the spin and research the truth themselves. Also, the Columbia Journalism Review (see on cjr.org) recently discussed this very issue -- how political campaigns inundate the media with spin and half-truths to control the propagandic messages because they know journalists won't check it all out....

Besides, CNN's coverage of the Democratic Convention was shameful at best. I hope Al Franken, Randi Rhodes, Molly Ivins, etc. get as much air time as Ralph Reed, et al, during the Republican Convention, but I'm not counting on it....


It's good to see that these men were at least discussing the issue of corporate bias in the news....
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indigobusiness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-31-04 10:27 PM
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9. CBS should turn Andy Rooney loose on the GOP Convention.
At least he speaks his mind.
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BeyondGeography Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-31-04 10:29 PM
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10. Brokaw is the one I can't stomach
I can't help but feel he's all but made Bush an honorary member of the so-called Greatest Generation every time I hear this guy. Brokaw started imbibing the Jack Welch Corporate Kool-Aid a long time ago and he's drunker than ever.

For health reasons, I avoid him like the plague.
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indigobusiness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-31-04 10:31 PM
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11. Rather just said they were overwhelmed by feedback
and sometimes had to let it "marionnate"? God I love Dan. Forgive me.
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EST Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-31-04 10:36 PM
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12. Slimy
I have watched this show 2 1/2 times this week and I get so pissed I end up screaming at the TV and firing off e-mails to c-span, CNN and ABC. These lieing sacks of s*** are even worse than politicians (horrors...is that possible?). Can one of you wonderful, experienced world savers tell me how to get action started to impeach Michael Powell, roll back to 1980 before deregulation to force equal time, bust up the monopolies sucking up our radio spectrum, and re-activate our ability to sue for libel? I feel so powerless and castrated. GAAAAAA!
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indigobusiness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-31-04 10:39 PM
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14. Haleleujah, Reverend, welcome to DU
There is something strangely compelling and oddly disturbing about this love-fest.
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emc Donating Member (223 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-31-04 11:31 PM
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26. Whats strange?
They all make 5 to 10 million apiece and Bush keeps their taxes down---you reall think they give a shit about the little man---I can guarantee they dont live in our areas----gated communities Ill bet---and the one that pisses me off the most and I kind of thought he was somewhat above this is Kopple---I always watch him, but even he has done an about face---they have no excuse except they want to keep the twerp in office but they just cant come out and say it---He keeps them rolling in the bucks------
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Bozita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-31-04 10:41 PM
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15. Welcome to DU, RevRussel
I think that you'll like it here at DU, but this is not a stress-free zone.

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Eloriel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-31-04 11:03 PM
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Oh, Rev, there was never any "equal time" requirement, just
the Fairness Doctrine. It didn't require "equal time." I'm way too tired of explaining it every time the subject comes up. Maybe you could try google. Or maybe someone else has the patience.

All that said, welcome to DU. Glad to have your righteous self here.
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EST Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-31-04 11:23 PM
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25. Yeah, I know it was the fairness doctrine
and I understand how it worked. Sometimes I allow myself to get so worked up that brain and words fail me, and 'close enough' is close enough. Thanks for the welcome, guys, please forgive my indiscretions and occasional newbie madness. Also, righteousness is something I try assiduously to avoid.
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linazelle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-31-04 10:56 PM
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16. Dan Rather: Saying he'll lead with Iraq casualties in lieu of news about
the economy. Brokaw saying he doesn't like quantitative analysis of the news. Both points of view make no sense since cable and network news have ample room for BOTH topics. It's not an either/or issue.
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Reciprocity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-31-04 11:03 PM
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17. What is this media tenner they were talking about?
Edited on Sat Jul-31-04 11:08 PM by Reciprocity
I googled (media tenner) it no cigar.
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indigobusiness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-31-04 11:07 PM
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19. media tenor
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Reciprocity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-31-04 11:33 PM
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27. Thank you!!
It is very evident that these people are not used to answering questions.
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blueblitzkrieg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-31-04 11:09 PM
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20. I watched a couple minutes but had to turn it off
After the atrocious way the mainstream media handled the convention, I've had it..I don't want to hear any more excuses from these people about why they aren't doing their damn job.
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KelleyKramer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-31-04 11:14 PM
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22. They are all assholes, 'Group think' and willfully ignorant anti-intellect

There are very heard hitting questions here, about the media, war, life and death. And these top anchors are just pompous assholes.
When a question is asked about them misleading America into a war based on lies, they just shake it off.

This is what is wrong with our corporate media. I always hated them for being whores, but now I know they are pompous assholes too.

All their ratings are in the toilet, serves them right, f- off!!!


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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-31-04 11:21 PM
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23. Those asking the questions are being too polite...
Letting Brokaw and Jennings (what egos) off the hook. These guys don't get it, that they do not fairly depict the facts. Wish the question would be put to them "why do you soft petal (or is it pedal) coverage of *?"
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indigobusiness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-31-04 11:23 PM
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24. pedal...no, wait ...peddle?
Edited on Sat Jul-31-04 11:24 PM by indigobusiness
yeah.
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-31-04 11:35 PM
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28. That makes sense, I just couldn't get it correct in my mind.
Thanks for straightening me out. :-)
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indigobusiness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-01-04 12:10 AM
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33. Surely
happens to me all the time.
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Protected Donating Member (618 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-31-04 11:47 PM
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29. I agree, Brokaw and Jennings came off very arrogant,
Edited on Sat Jul-31-04 11:49 PM by Jonathan Little
especially so when Jennings was bitching about the structure of the convention. I thought Rather and Lehrer appeared to be at least a bit more honest and humble about everything. Judy Woodruff...ack, I just can't stand her. "My husband, Al Hunt, did a study on this..." Ugh!

This was an 'interesting' program, but it definitely didn't put my mind at rest at all regarding the evening newscasts or the media in general. It was too short and poorly moderated.
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Reciprocity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-31-04 11:53 PM
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31. It was great.
I missed some of it , that said they were very defensive about only having one hour of DNC programming a night. This program on C Span was recorded before the convention. The last night after Kerry's speech I tuned in to MSNBC. Brokaw went ballistic when Scarborough pointed out that Kerry's speech was rushed so it would fit in the time frame allotted for convention coverage. Now I know why.
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-31-04 11:55 PM
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32. It made me angry. Their arrogance and Jennings with ABC did better
and did their job, yaaddaaa yada. Dan Rather is the most honest of the lot and I believe he does feel responsible for the failing. I have been watching CBS more than the others lately because they appear willing to report.

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