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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-01-04 08:44 AM
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Why does Al Quaeda have a fetish for New York?
Edited on Sun Aug-01-04 08:53 AM by HypnoToad
1993 attacks.

2001 attacks.

Latest, purported, scheme to attack New York corporations. (which is continues to prove my point as to why AMERICA is as evil as those trying to annihilate us... the only corporation I have utter respect for is Costco. I'm sure there are others, I just haven't heard of them yet.)

The repuke convention is in NYC, and they're not politicians or people who work for the people. They're closeted corporate CEOs. I wonder...
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-01-04 08:47 AM
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1. Or, why the WTC?
What was in the WTC that attracted them? If they wanted to strike fear in the heart of America, why not an older landmark?
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-01-04 08:51 AM
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2. They went after the Pentagon and White House as well...
The WH was built after the war of 1812, as I recall... That would be a sufficiently old landmark, though many people don't even have a clue as to its beginnings/rebuildings. Even I remember only vaguely. I must've been awake during history class that day. (I now see why history class is important; to remember our past and NOT repeat the mistakes we, as a species, made. Lots of people must've slept through that class...)
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markses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-01-04 09:17 AM
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9. The WTC was functional: the symbolism was secondary
They really did land a strong hook on the US economy with the WTC strike, not because of its symbolic value, but because of its economic function: all those bond traders, Fiduciary Trust, etc. Really important economic activity went on in these places - al Qaeda showed us that we are not a "distributed" or "decentered" with respect to fundamental economic activity as we like to think.

Second function was pretty simple: High visibility.

I just don't understand those who think al Qaeda is primarily working on symbolism. They are hitting functional units affecting the economy, as well as military targets. So, oil tankers and the USS Cole, oil workers and military personnel overseas (Khobar Towers), the WTC and the Pentagon. Functional functional functional. Only the symbol-crazy US (with its passion for interpretation) sees these as symbolic targets in the first instance. They are targeted because they actually WORK, not because they MEAN anything.
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Pallas180 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-01-04 09:47 AM
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12. I disagree. WTC & Nels & David Rockefeller push 1 World Govt. and I think
Edited on Sun Aug-01-04 09:49 AM by Pallas180
that is part of what this is about.

The WTC was built by Rockefeller as a memorial to himself.

Nelson and David Rockefeller, and Kissinger who worked for them
are intent on One World Govt, "New World Order"

google Trilateral Commission and membership..Pappy is member
and Carlyle is offshoot of Trilateral

There's more than symbolism.



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markses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-01-04 10:35 AM
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19. And the American mania for interpretation strikes again
I simply do not buy these plots and their accompanying hermeneutics. Sorry.

The WTC was functional. It did stuff. Al Qaeda wanted it to stop doing those things, so as to crush other things. It really is that simple. there is no man behind the curtain.
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-01-04 10:15 AM
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18. I think it's time to decentralized Wall Street.
Too much money in one place is not good for America. We go through trends where the money of modest Americans gets pooled in one area, and in good times, there is too much money in one place. Suddenly, New York's lifestyle goes into high levels of arrogance and obscenity, and the next thing we know, we have bail-outs and senior citizens buying catfood for dinner.

Folks, it's time to let go of the White Elephants.
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markses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-01-04 10:36 AM
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20. New York's lifestyle?
There are plenty of seniors eating catfood for dinner in New York as well, my man. There is no "New York" lifestyle. Ever been here?
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-01-04 11:31 AM
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22. First, it's me lady.
Second, yes, we have Repub relatives in New York. Sick and tired of watching the hubby get cushy jobs from his connections at the Beach Club. He probably never has opened a newspaper to look for a job. The jobs he and his boys get are generally connected to the stock or bond market. I know their lifestyle and it's obscene for their level of intellect. Hubby is likeable, but has a tendency to quote trivia he has picked up at a cocktail party like he actually read something about the information on his own. And, boy, do they have an air of superiority because they can land those networked jobs. They have no compassion for your senior citizen in New York. They have no compassion for anyone but their over-achieving New York friends.

They did experience a loss in the WTC, but I seriously doubt that it has given them a different perspective. If anything, they have become far more stolid in their ways, and have made very hateful remarks, as if every relative is going to ask for money they soon will receive from the WTC settlement. They have not become better people and I doubt that they will welcome any change that shakes up their status quo.

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iconoclastic cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-01-04 08:56 AM
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3. They hate the Knitting Factory.
And everything it stands for.
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madmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-01-04 09:03 AM
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4. I believe this is a repig hoax....
so they can say "see they don't want our convention so the must want Kerry to win" just another rovian ruse.
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RC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-01-04 09:08 AM
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5. The WTC were high profile, well known targets.
That is why they were picked.

The Pentagon was hit because there are people in the high place in the United States Government that are working to destroy this country for their own gain and power.

LIHOP & MIHOP are more than a random sequence of letters, folks. There is ample evidence to back both up.
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wishlist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-01-04 09:14 AM
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6. I would guess they want to strike out at Americans of Jewish descent
and corporations that are highly represented by Jewish Americans since Al Quaeda's strongest antipathy is against American support of Israel which they see as driving American policy in the Middle East. Any attacks in N.Y. are sure to take a toll on Jews due to their high concentration there. Plus by striking at New York/Wall Street they are hitting the heart of the American economy.

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Scorpious_Maximus Donating Member (578 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-01-04 09:15 AM
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7. The Yankees?
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Pallas180 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-01-04 09:16 AM
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8. Investment Bankers & Houses tied to CIA . & being an insider
obl knows it.
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SheilaT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-01-04 09:40 AM
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10. Not only was the WTC
a powerful symbol of corporate America, it might have been possible to kill many thousands of people that day. In reality, the death toll was amazingly light.

Consider this: Had the two planes struck 30-40 minutes later, and more nearly simultaneously, both towers would have been full of people and there would have been no time to evacuate. It's also thought by some observers that the hijackers (or the planners) thought that crashing into the buildings like that would have knocked them over, killing many more people that way.

Luckily for the thousands who might have died, many New Yorkers don't start work until 9am, and since the first plane hit ten or so minutes before, a lot of people weren't yet on the job. And there was time to evacuate many people from both towers before the second plane and then the subsequent collapses.

Hitting the Pentagon was again, an attack on the most important military symbol we have. I also wonder if they didn't think they'd kill off much of our military high command. If you watch TV and movies you might think that our generals are routinely gathered there doing whatever it is generals do.

And of course if the White House had been UA93's target, that would have been the most psychologically devasting hit of all. And I wouldn't be surprised if they thought Bush would be there that day.
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-01-04 09:42 AM
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11. As James Baker said about the Jews:
Fuck New York, they don't vote for us anyway.
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Pallas180 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-01-04 09:53 AM
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13. LOL. Steph. MIHOP
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leesa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-01-04 09:57 AM
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14. They don't. The Bush Crime Family does.
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-01-04 09:58 AM
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15. W hates NYC too
Hasn't anyone else noticed that W rarely ever goes there unless he has no choice? A couple of Ground Zero visits and one to the UN and that's about it.

Now on the other hand, Knoxville, TN is one of his favorites.

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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-01-04 10:03 AM
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16. He was forced to make one visit to NYC prior to 9/11
And he sneered the whole time. When they asked him how he liked New York he said "it's a beautiful day" and wouldn't say any more. Fucking PRICK.
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Rose Siding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-01-04 10:04 AM
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17. It's the highest profile financial center
The larger the city, the easier to be anonymous. Lots of punch to hit what's already been hit.

Mostly money, money, money.

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ikojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-01-04 10:39 AM
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21. NYC is seen as THE capital of American capitalism and
American culture. Many fundamentalists see both as dangerous and insidious to their way of life. American capitalism searches the world over for natural and human resources to exploit just so profits go to the top. The US military is seen as protecting and making the world safe for capitalism.
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