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Dems Will Win Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-01-04 09:38 AM
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Dem Rep. Strickland on DRAFT: Parents of teens, PAY ATTENTION!
Edited on Sun Aug-01-04 09:40 AM by Dems Will Win
Possibility of military draft growing

By Connie Cartmell

The word "draft" is no longer being whispered, even in Marietta.

-snip-

But even if the word draft is not being mentioned in Marietta, it is in Washington. Reinstatement of the draft, compulsory service, is an idea receiving increasing attention in the halls of Congress.

"It's not a certainty, but it is a strong possibility," U.S. Rep. Ted Strickland, D-Lisbon, said Friday. "If people have sons and daughters in their teen years, they need to be paying attention."

-snip-

Poll results

What should the nation do about having its military stretched too thin?

59.7 percent - Cut back on overseas missions.

30.6 percent - Reinstate the draft.

9.7 percent - Extend military service.

258 - Total votes.

Source: The Marietta Times poll question from Tuesday

http://www.mariettatimes.com/news/story/0717202004_new02kjhu.asp

BUSH '04 = DRAFT '05

KERRY '04 = PNAC OUT THE DOOR!!

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Sporadicus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-01-04 09:49 AM
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1. The Poll on The Marietta Times' Page
Goes as follows:

Poll results

What should the nation do about having its military stretched too thin?

59.7 percent - Cut back on overseas missions.

30.6 percent - Reinstate the draft.

9.7 percent - Extend military service.

258 - Total votes.

There's not an option called 'avoiding military adventurism and empire building.'

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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-01-04 10:06 AM
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2. If Kerry walks in and is behind the reinstatement of the draft which
results in the death of a number of teenagers, I believe there will be no one in America who lived through Vietnam that will ever dare to hope again.
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Jacobin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-01-04 08:51 PM
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7. As one who lived through the Viet Nam debacle, I can only say
that I know precisely how you feel. I have two teenage sons and this issue is uppermost on my mind.
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Sugarbleus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-01-04 08:55 PM
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8.  Raising my grandson (16 yo)...not ez with these
reports either... Seems like we keep coming back to these reports though. I've talked about this with others in DU for a couple months already. Will he or will he not re instate the draft--Kerry I mean?
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ContraBass Black Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-01-04 10:31 AM
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3. Kerry needs to speak to this.
Let us know where he stands.
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Dems Will Win Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-01-04 01:36 PM
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4. He has.
The major media cover hardly anything that John Kerry says, especially if it is about the draft. So you would never know it, but John Kerry has a No-Draft Plan, a plan to strengthen the military in key areas yet draw down U.S. troop levels in Iraq by internationalizing the situation and then getting out as soon as possible.

Here are the five main points of Kerry’s No-Draft Plan:

1. Move some paper-pushers to combat (lots of potential there)

2. Increase enlistment with real scholarships, benefits and pay raises

3. Let troops know Special Ops will hunt al-Queda, no more invasions needed, so re-up rate goes up. "Primarily a law enforcement effort, not a full military effort", said John Kerry on Meet The Press.

4. Start a "Civilian Stability Corps" that would help in reconstructing Afghanistan and Iraq and relieve military pressure. It would be kind of like the Peace Corps—but on steroids.

5. GET FOREIGN TROOPS TO COME INTO INSTEAD OF LEAVE IRAQ.

Kerry gave some details about the proposed Civilian Stability Corps, made up of volunteers:

"...I propose that we enlist thousands of them in a Civilian Stability Corps, a reserve organization of volunteers ready to help win the peace in troubled places. Like military reservists, they will have peacetime jobs; but in times of national need, they will be called into service to restore roads, renovate schools, open hospitals, repair power systems, draft a constitution, or build a police force. A Civilian Stability Corps can bring the best of America to the worst of the world—and reduce pressure on the military."
- Source: Kerry, John. "Protecting Our Military Families in Times of War: A Military Family Bill of Rights." March 17, 2004. http://johnkerry.com/pressroom/speeches/spc_2004_0317.html >

In April, on a conference call with 130 College Newspaper Editors, Kerry said “No Draft”, that he would have a sensible foreign policy that would not require reinstatement. And in June, Kerry told a Wisconsin high school that if elected, a draft would be "absolutely unnecessary".

Kerry’s plan calls for increasing active-duty troop levels by 40,000 people. He also doubles the number of Special Ops troops. Half the 40,000 being added are civil engineering/reconstruction specialists and half are combat, costing an extra $7 billion, but it relieves the pressure on the Guard and Reserves for overseas deployments and essentially saves the Volunteer Army. $7 billion is well worth not having to bring back the draft!

Kerry charges that Bush is ruining the Volunteer approach with long Guard and Reserve deployments and numerous stop-loss orders, which Kerry says is a “Back-door Draft”. Since Kerry will increase pay, benefits, scholarships and reduce long deployments of regular troops and the reserves, if he is elected the re-enlistment rates and recruitment rates will return to normal. Recently, troops returning from Iraq are reportedly leaving the Service in huge numbers, although denied by DoD (see David Hackworth, Voting With their Feet http://worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=38644).

With this No-Draft Plan, Kerry will not have to resort to conscription, even after Bush has made such a mess of it in Iraq. Kerry has also pledged that he will push renewable energy development and true energy independence, “so that we never again have soldiers dying for oil”.

Kerry has criticized the inequality of the draft, that the poor and minorities are inducted in higher numbers than their fair share and that the draft is a source of conflict. John Kerry will not reinstate the draft—outside of the invasion of the United States by China or something like that.

The choice is thus clear to all voters. Vote for Bush and you are also voting for the resumption of the draft—to man his hidden agenda of invading more countries and staying in Iraq forever.

Or vote for Kerry and you are voting PNAC out of the White House, and with it Bush’s hidden agenda to bring back the draft so U.S. companies can dominate the world’s remaining oil supply.

Finally, a draft is morally reprehensible, an infringement of freedom against the principles of the Constitution. We know that Bush cares nothing about morality when it comes to Iraq and that Kerry has over the years always expressed real opposition to the draft for a number of moral and ethical reasons. Having lived through the Vietnam era, Kerry knows well the long history of conflict and opposition that the draft has wrought.

John Kerry will not reinstate the draft, but Bush is secretly gearing up the whole system right now for the summer of next year.

Moral opposition to conscription goes all the way back to the year 1814. In a response to a proposed draft to fight the British, Daniel Webster perhaps said it best:

“Is this, sir, consistent with the character of a free government? Is this civil liberty? Is this the real character of our Constitution? No, sir, indeed it is not.

"The Constitution is libeled, foully libeled. The people of this country have not established for themselves such a fabric of despotism. They have not purchased at a vast expense of their own treasure and their own blood a Magna Carta to be slaves.

"Where is it written in the Constitution, in what article or section is it contained, that you may take children from their parents, and parents from their children, and compel them to fight the battles of any war, in which the folly or the wickedness of government may engage it?"

BUSH ’04 = DRAFT ‘05

KERRY'04 = PNAC OUT THE DOOR!
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ContraBass Black Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-01-04 03:29 PM
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5. Excellent.
I'll spread the word.
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Dems Will Win Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-01-04 08:40 PM
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6. Thanks!
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