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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-01-04 03:43 PM
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I just rewatched the Blitzer interview with Dean on tape.
I watched and listened to every word very very carefully. I will now closely watch the transcript and compare it with the tape.

There was nothing, absolutely nothing, said that was not correct. It was said clearly, and it put it right back in Bush's lap.

He never said it was a bogus alert, he said no one but this secretive administration knew what it was. He was quite proper in all his words, and very powerful.

I am glad I taped it, and I will stand up to every one who twists those words. I just wrote and called CNN to express that as well.

Bloomberg just said this is based on old information that has been around a while. So now we panic???
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jean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-01-04 03:45 PM
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1. historical information? That's the kind bush and Rice poo poohed
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Kolesar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-01-04 03:48 PM
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2. Which interview is this?
Was Dean on Late Edition today? I have totally missed this story.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-01-04 04:02 PM
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8. He was on Late Edition about 1:10 for about 15 minutes.
I am so glad I taped it, and I will not permit it to be spun.

Dean has opened the door, and I hope others start trickling through. We have to call them on this and make the people aware.
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Kolesar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-01-04 04:08 PM
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9. Addressing the question of these conveniently-timed terror alerts
that we at DU are so suspicious of. (I think I got the drift.)
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NYCGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-01-04 03:48 PM
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3. I missed the appearance, MadFlor, but I got the gist of it...
Although it was kind of "second hand" information. I'm looking forward to your comparison of CNN's transcript and your tape...
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Jacobin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-01-04 03:49 PM
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4. Again, Dean says out loud what 50 million Democrats are afraid to say
I heard the entire interview. He spoke very plainly and calmly and voiced EXACTLY what tens of millions of Americans believe/suspect.

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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-01-04 03:49 PM
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5. This is what they are so good at, taking information that has been
out there for awhile or even sometimes twenty or more years ago and presenting it as fresh and new. It's just another way of lying IMO.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-01-04 03:49 PM
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6. PANIC
enjoy the freedoms of New York

(which is about to be closed down)

Yep FREEDOM I TELL YOU

PANIC, PANIC, PANIC


Oh my, these people are pathetic
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DemoTex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-01-04 04:00 PM
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7. Note, too, that Dean was interviewed before Ridge spoke.
Dean's very effective appearance could have been devastating with a snip or two of Tom Ridge's blatant campaigning. A quote from Bloomberg's comments on protest permits would have been icing on a richly layered cake.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-01-04 04:19 PM
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10. And Bloomberg's comments that info had been around 2 or 3 years.
Not good. This came after Dean's comments.
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Shopaholic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-01-04 04:55 PM
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11. Dean was brilliant--he nailed Wolf to the floor with his comments
Wolf was hysterical as always--whoring away for the GOP. We need to use Dean as much as possible. He's a very effective attack dog. BTW-after Ridge's "press conference"--I e-mailed CNN and pointed out the timing between this "terrorist alert" and positive coverage of Kerry/Edwards. I also told them that Howard Dean had been dead on target with his comments during Late Edition!

Honestly--I think this alert was more about bringing the media back in line than anything else. Too many were saying positive things about us and we know that Rove couldn't have that sort of thing going on, now could he?
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-01-04 05:01 PM
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12. So Bloomberg is poo-pooing, too? As well as us?
But then Bloomberg is trying to help NYC and the repukes are tying to instill FEAR in every man, woman, and child!!

That repug convention should be interesting with the protesters, bloomberg, and the feral fundies!
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-01-04 05:14 PM
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13. He was not a happy camper when I watched it.
He said we had to keep going to stores and places, etc,etc. just like Bush does. The fact that he mentioned the info being old is very significant.
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mtnester Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-01-04 05:18 PM
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14. Red and orange alerts will bankrupt his city
I am sure he is thrilled. Wonder what threats, or how many rubber hoses, they had to use on his to get him to go along with this.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-01-04 05:23 PM
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17. I just mentioned this in another thread...that I was there in NYC
on Feb 15, 2003 for the War Protest and this miserable failure had the City on Orange Alert to scare us. Nobody was scared and the Rally went off beautifully in 20 degree weather, with high wind chill factor!

My feeling is Bloomberg became a repub to get in the General Election but he still has Dem principles.

Thanks for this info of Dean on cnn. For us who don't watch cnn ..it is invaluble!
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-01-04 05:21 PM
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15. ABC has a short segment of it. Not bad, either.
Edited on Sun Aug-01-04 05:23 PM by madfloridian
http://abcnews.go.com/sections/politics/NotedNow/Noted_Now.html

RIDGE RAISES TERROR LEVELS IN NYC & DC:
Sec. Ridge announces a series of targeted security enhancements for the financial districts of New York City and Washington.
MORE from the AP

"Howard Dean, on CNN, sighted possible politics at play: "I'm concerned that every times something happens that is not good for President Bush, he plays his trump card, which is terrorism. His whole campaign is based on the notiion that 'I can keep you safe, therefore at times of difficulty for America stick with me,' and then out comes Tom Ridge."

However, he qualified every thing he said with the fact that Bush himself is campaigning on keeping us safer....so Bush started it.
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Blue Gardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-01-04 05:22 PM
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16. Dean's always one step ahead
He wasn't afraid to speak out against the war when that wasn't the popular thing to do. He'll be proven right this time around as well.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-01-04 05:25 PM
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18. Yeah! Junebug!
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-01-04 05:30 PM
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19. And another quote from another site...still good.
http://www.voanews.com/article.cfm?objectID=C1DF86F5-5C15-4566-949C5CDDBBFA52BB

SNIP..."Former Vermont Governor Howard Dean, who competed with Massachusetts Senator John Kerry for the Democratic Party's presidential nomination, noted that national security is a major campaign issue this year. Mr. Dean said it is not unreasonable to keep that fact in mind when contemplating the Bush administration's terror warnings.

"The president is basing his political campaign on the notion that he ought to be reelected because terrorism is a danger and his case to the American people is that 'I am the only person who can get us through this,'' he said. "So of course this is politics. Do I believe that this is being fabricated? No, of course I do not believe that. But I do think there is politics in this and the question is: how much of this is politics and how much is a real threat?"

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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-01-04 05:51 PM
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20. Good for Dean getting this out on the table. And glad
Bloomberg is being skepticle, too. I suppose you saw that about ol wolf blitzer saying to Eleanor Holmes..or rather asking her ..if she was one of Those Democrats who believed the "terrorist warnings" were politics?
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NightOwwl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-01-04 05:56 PM
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21. The Bloomberg press conference was 45 minutes late and
when it finally started he looked incredibly angry. I would not be surprised if there was arm-twisting involved in order to get him on air.

As he was telling us we should take the threat seriously, he admitted the same info has been out there for years. Then he gave the familiar "go about your business as usual" spiel. He sounded like an idiot, and he knew it. No wonder he was pissed off.


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Xenus Sister Donating Member (354 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-01-04 06:21 PM
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22. Here's a transcript of the Dean interview (relevant portion)
Edited on Sun Aug-01-04 06:22 PM by Equipoise
I Tivo'd this and just watched it. I didn't know if someone else had transcribed it, so went ahead and did it anyway.

CNN Late Edition, Suday August 1, 2004

Wolf Blitzer: We're also following the terror threat level here in the United States, specifically in Washington, D.C. where the U.S. Homeland Security Secretary Tom Ridge is about to announce it will be elevated from yellow to orange. CNN will have live coverage of his news conference coming up a little bit less than an hour from now, 2pm Eastern. Let's get some discussion on that, as well as presidential politics. Joining us now from Vermont, the former Governor of Vermont, Howard Dean, joining us live.

Governor Dean thanks very much for joining us, and I want to immediately get your reaction to both of these developing stories. First, the decision by the federal government Department of Homeland Security to increase the threat level here in Washington D.C. from yellow to orange, from elevated to high. What do you make of this?

HOWARN DEAN: It's hard to know what to make, none of us outside the administration have access to the intelligence which led to this determination. I am concerned that every time something happens, it's not good for president Bush. He plays this trump card which is terrorism, his whole campaign is based on the notion that I can keep you safe, therefore, and at times of difficult, difficulty for America stick with me, and then out comes Tom Ridge. It's just impossible to know how much of this is real and how much of this is politics, and I suspect there's some of both in it.

Blitz: Well when you say that, that's a very serious allegation, that the federal government, Tom Ridge, the president of the United States may be playing politics with the whole issue of fear and terror threat levels and I want you to explain specifically so there's no confusion what you mean by that.

DEAN: What I mean by that is the president himself has played politics with it, the president is basing his political campaign for re-election on the notion that he ought to be re-elected because terrorism is a danger and his case to the American people is I'm the only person who can get us through this. So, of course this is politics. The question is, do I believe this is being fabricated? No, of course I don't believe that, but I do think that there is politics in this and the question is, how much is politics and how much is a real threat? I have no doubt there's a real threat here, but I also, there's a long history of orange to yellow, yellow to orange, orange to yellow, without a lot of explanation. I find that the warnings, watch out for somebody walking into buildings, watch out for somebody driving cars, watch out for somebody driving a truck, that's not very helpful in New York City. It'd be very helpful if the federal government would be much more specific about exactly what they'd like us to watch out for as they're raising all these levels.

Blitz: But isn't it important that if there are serious indicators of a threat out there that the federal government at least notify those who may be in harm's way, to be a little bit more vigilant?

DEAN: Yes it is, very important, and one of the things about this warning which is different than the previous many many many that the Bush administration has given us is, they've given us specific cities and specific targets. The usual pattern of the Bush administration is, just come out and tell everybody we have chatter we have chatter watch out watch out, and the is totally unhelpful. This at least confines it to a geographic area, and I think that's an improvement. I think, frankly, that this is an area which I think John Kerry would handle much differently. I think John Kerry would probably wait until he knew exactly what the situation was. He's also said that he would hire more special forces people, and that's going to be the key to stopping this. We need to stop these people in their own lands, not when they get to ours.

Blitz: Governor Dean, you were Governor when Tom Ridge was Governor of Pennsylvania, you clearly know him. Is he the kind of man who would play politics with this kind of sensitive subject?

DEAN: Look, I like Tom Ridge, and I knew George Bush and I liked George Bush. The president himself has said he is playing politics with this. The president himself has said that he ought to be re-elected because of the terrible terrorist danger. I don't see what's the big deal about this. It's obvious that politics has something to do with this.

Blitz: Well, as I said before, that's a very serious charge that you're making against the president.

DEAN: I don't think it's a serious charge, it's something the president himself has acknowledged.

Blitz: Well, when you say

DEAN: The president's campaign is based on

Blitz: He says this is not, let me just say, he says that what he's doing is trying to protect the American people when he and his intelligence community, law enforcement community sense there are threats out there.

DEAN: I have no doubt that the president is trying to protect the American people, that's his job and I think that's a good thing. I think that's good, that's what he should be doing. However, when you're going to run on inspiring fear in the American people, that's politics, and there's no way you can get out of accusations and discussions about the relationship between politics and protecting us against terrorism in an election year, when the president of the United States is avowedly running his political re-election campaign on the notion that he can protect us better from terrorism than John Kerry can. I happen to disagree with that, but the president himself made the choice to inject politics into the campaign on terrorism. That was his choice, he's now going to have to live with the consequences.

Blitz: Ok, let's go on and talk about Iraq...
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-01-04 06:27 PM
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23. Yes! Thanks. Here is a pertinent part where he talked over Blitzer....
whose head was exploding.

SNIP..."I have no doubt that the president is trying to protect the American people, that's his job and I think that's a good thing. I think that's good, that's what he should be doing. However, when you're going to run on inspiring fear in the American people, that's politics, and there's no way you can get out of accusations and discussions about the relationship between politics and protecting us against terrorism in an election year, when the president of the United States is avowedly running his political re-election campaign on the notion that he can protect us better from terrorism than John Kerry can. I happen to disagree with that, but the president himself made the choice to inject politics into the campaign on terrorism. That was his choice, he's now going to have to live with the consequences."
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Xenus Sister Donating Member (354 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-01-04 07:24 PM
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24. You're welcome. My favorite part
is this:

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DEAN: Yes it is, very important, and one of the things about this warning which is different than the previous many many many that the Bush administration has given us is, they've given us specific cities and specific targets. The usual pattern of the Bush administration is, just come out and tell everybody we have chatter we have chatter watch out watch out, and that is totally unhelpful. This at least confines it to a geographic area, and I think that's an improvement. I think, frankly, that this is an area which I think John Kerry would handle much differently. I think John Kerry would probably wait until he knew exactly what the situation was. He's also said that he would hire more special forces people, and that's going to be the key to stopping this. We need to stop these people in their own lands, not when they get to ours.

=======

Two little slaps and one big slap.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-01-04 07:41 PM
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26. Great to have Dean out there bitchslappin'
blitzer!
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-01-04 07:48 PM
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27. They just about had real words.
I mean really.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-01-04 07:36 PM
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25. Transcript, here we go!. Just saw it. Have not checked with the video.
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-01-04 07:59 PM
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28. That seemed pretty mild to me
Hardly worthy of the "attack dog" label I've been hearing bantered about.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-01-04 08:14 PM
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29. The words were not harsh at all. He had to talk over Blitzer.
Blitzer was acting so outraged all the time that Dean was really sounding forceful.

He just spoke bluntly.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-01-04 09:13 PM
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31. "Out comes Tom Ridge!"
'His whole campaign is based on the notion that "I can keep you safe, therefore at times of difficulty for America stick with me," and then out comes Tom Ridge.'

Perfect.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-01-04 09:11 PM
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30. Ha Ha, I had forgotten this part where he compliments Bush.
Well, actually, he just pays a slight compliment about the geographic area.

SNIP.."I find that the warnings -- watch out for somebody walking into buildings, watch out for somebody driving cars, watch out for somebody driving a truck -- that's not very helpful in New York City. It would be very helpful if the federal government would be much more specific about exactly what they'd like to us watch out for as they're raising all these levels...

The usual pattern of the Bush administration is just come out and tell everybody, "We have chatter, we have chatter, watch out, watch out," and that is totally unhelpful. This at least confines it to a geographic area, and I think that's an improvement."

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NYCGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-01-04 09:21 PM
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32. I am just so proud of Dr. Dean.
Who else would've had the guts to say that. And he's absolutely right, even if it rattles Wolf Blitzer!
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