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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-01-04 11:53 PM
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A more useful benchmark: LA Times's pre-convention poll
In all the kvetching about polls, I thought that this poll from last week offers a better, unspun snapshot of that national mood. It's from the LA Times, which I consider a far more reliable and objective source than the NY Times or WaPo.

Essentially people see Bush as far more rigid and (gag) more experienced in dealing w/ security issues. Kerry did exactly what he needed to do at the convention--hammer home the message about his war experience (which really isn't all that important as far leading the country in war goes, eg Abe Lincoln, FDR) and his experience in working on security issues in the Congress (which is very important and quite substantive).

Character and personality issues are a wash. Kerry's got the advantage on the economy. He went right after Bush's strengths and I think held his own. I'm not happy about the first post convention polls, but the big picture is what really matters and I think we're doing okay there.

Which of the following applies? Bush Kerry

Cares about people like me . . . 34% . 44%

Strong leader for the country. . 44% . 42%

Honesty and integrity to serve . 42% . 42%

Flip flops on the issues . . . . 31% . 43%

Best for country vs terrorism. . 49% . 31%

Better ideas for economy . . . . 35% . 48%

Build respect for the U.S. . . . 38% . 44%

Shares my moral values . . . . . 44% . 38%

Doesn’t admit mistakes and is
inflexible in changing mind. . . 55% . 20%

More likely to develop a plan for
achieving success in Iraq. . . . 46% . 37%
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-01-04 11:56 PM
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1. we need to get across that building respect makes us STRONGER
we need to show there is a connection among the issues. it's a MORAL ISSUE to want a better economy to help people live better lives.
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Nevernose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-01-04 11:57 PM
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3. Good point
Though I wonder how much of that is a Kerry/Edwards thing, and how much would require a general change in nationwide paradigm?
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Nevernose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-01-04 11:56 PM
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2. Tells us what we need to work on
Work on perception of Iraq, terrorism, and morality.

Emphasize "Cares about people like me" and "Better ideas for economy", because those are the winners.
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izzie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-02-04 12:04 AM
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4. Well we put Nixon in with all the mess he made.
Who is to judge what odd people we put in for President? In another 4 years maybe people will see what this nut is doing to this country. I just hope Bush does not win. I already think Ben Larden won. These people who may number 1000 educated people have 300 million people running around like chickens with out heads. How did London ever live through the Germans bombing? We never would have made it.
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