Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

I might have t ake back what i said about this terrorist alert warnings

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (Through 2005) Donate to DU
 
lottie244 Donating Member (903 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-02-04 07:01 AM
Original message
I might have t ake back what i said about this terrorist alert warnings
Since the reports say they have top Al-qaeda official's wife and children, I believe he is spilling his guts. Even terrorists love their wives and children and you know what the Paks and western allies will do to wives and children...worse than death. I think this guy is telling all that he knows but I really don't think he know everything...just his part of the operation. Let's hope we really have thwarted the plans for NYC and DC and NJ.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
soothsayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-02-04 07:04 AM
Response to Original message
1. If only this administration had any credibility, then maybe I'd even
believe THAT.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Justice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-02-04 07:05 AM
Response to Original message
2. From What I read, what the guy is saying/what they are finding is informa-
tion that suggests some of these sites were scoped out pre 9/11 - not that there is any indication an "imminent" act will happen today.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Strelnikov_ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-02-04 07:21 AM
Response to Reply #2
8. From CNN, Pre 9/11 Recon That MAY Still Be Going On Today

This is definitely the impression I am getting from news articles.

It appears to me that while the information provides insight into some targets they where looking at, there is no indication that any attack was planned, let alone imminent.

Seems to me that all the hoopla is a bit of an over-reaction.

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Walt Starr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-02-04 07:23 AM
Response to Reply #8
9. Nope, they grasped at straws to justify a purely partisan
'Terra Lert'

Any old reason would work. After it blows over, they blame it on bad intelligence.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
radwriter0555 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-02-04 08:07 AM
Response to Reply #9
15. NOTICE bush's bogus war on terror DID NOT CATCH THIS GUY? Not one single
US dollar or action is responsible or involved in catching this alleged perpetrator, once again. Just pakistanis.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Eloriel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-02-04 08:30 AM
Response to Reply #9
17. And they provided some "details" because they've been
uniformly criticized for that in the past.

On another thread, a DUer posted that Bloomberg had said this intel is over 2 years old, fer cryin' out loud.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
tommilator Donating Member (51 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-02-04 07:09 AM
Response to Original message
3. torture victims..
have been know to say just about anything they think their interrogators want to hear. Read any account of a witch trial and it should be obvious that the poor women were just running their mouths.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
bowens43 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-02-04 07:51 AM
Response to Reply #3
12. What makes you believe that there is a torture victim?
Tom Ridge says so isn't enough for me.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
tommilator Donating Member (51 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 05:55 AM
Response to Reply #12
23. Interrogation in Pakistan!!
A military dictatorship....

And the fact that torture have been green-lighted in the 'War on Terror'(tm) by your fine administration.

I have no idea if the threat is for real or if its a false warning cooked up in a Pakistani prison or at a Karl Rove strategy meeting.

My point was that information obtained through torture is by definition unreliable.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 06:03 AM
Response to Reply #3
24. ABSO-farkin'-LUTELY! He's spilling his guts about 3 yr old intelligence
Torture victims do say anything. And by the time interrogators get around to torturing, they're already leading the perp's answers in the direction they expect them to go. So the guy is saying "al Qaeda has been casing downtown New York and DC for possible targets".

Um, duh. What a shitty way to run a war. Is it too late to surrender?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-02-04 07:11 AM
Response to Original message
4. I'm not sure that I even believe
that they have the wife and children of the "Top" Al-qaeda official. I don't believe anything our government says. NOTHING.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
tngledwebb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-02-04 08:38 AM
Response to Reply #4
19. Agreed..
And CNN and the NYT, WaPo, WSJ, and the rest, don't believe a single thing you read hear or see in any major US media- with a very few individual exceptions. 'Liberal' pundits can only speak their minds under a very narrow remit, IE they have to be 'fair and balanced', IE they can never call BushCo bald-faced liars, overt fascists, or just plain evil, though these terms are most apropos. And journalists and pols in 1933 Germany who spoke the truth are today to be praised for their bravery and foresight.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-02-04 07:17 AM
Response to Original message
5. the truth remains unknown until something happens
since the administration has a history of spreading falsehoods.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
TheWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-02-04 07:24 AM
Response to Reply #5
10. It's Quite Simple actually.
They are in Political Trouble.

They know there is no way in HELL they can win a Free Election.

So they are doing what they have done every time.

A conveniently timed Fear Fest to Keep the Cattle In-Line.

We are NOT Cattle, We are AMERICANS.

We Are HUMAN BEINGS.

And for those of us who can still think for ourselves, we must see this for what it is.

A Ruse.

They have nothing left.

They will try everything and anything to Stay in Power. For all we know, we may not get to Vote this November, but they will NOT Take this Country without a FIGHT.

This time let The Wolf Eat THEM.

Their Fall will be EPIC.

But we must not let them take us with them.

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Media_Lies_Daily Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-02-04 07:20 AM
Response to Original message
6. I've heard and read quite a few "reports" since the NeoCons...
...took power in December 2000.

I'm still waiting for one that contains even a small portion of truth.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
buycitgo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 06:15 AM
Response to Reply #6
25. A frickin MEN!
many posts here echo this obvious reaction, as did the very first dem caller on CSPAN today, where they're discussing this

she said she doesn't believe ANYthing they say, that they have shown that they'll do ANYthing to stay in power, after stealing the election in the first place

what better example of the bogosity of all the 'reports' issued is Sibel Edmonds letter, issued yesterday, and IGNORED in the media

you musta all seen this, but here it is again, just in case

http://www.scoop.co.nz/mason/stories/HL0408/S00012.htm
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Walt Starr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-02-04 07:20 AM
Response to Original message
7. This is a PHONY 'Terra Lert'
Regardless of any claims they make, this was done solely for partisan political reasons.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
bowens43 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-02-04 07:50 AM
Response to Original message
11. It's bullshit.
I don't believe that there IS a captured Al Qaeda official. I don't believe there is a 'guy'. The whole thing is bullshit and your reaction is exactly what they were looking for. NOTHING that comes from this administration can be trusted. Nothing.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
T Bone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-02-04 08:48 AM
Response to Reply #11
22. true that
It seems to me this is part of the GOP response to the Democratic convention. There are two things hitting the airwaves with shock and awe right now.

1. Terra Terra Terra
2. All the spin about no bump for Kerry with some outlets going so far as to say he lost ground in the polls, which is definitely not true.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
wurzel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-02-04 07:53 AM
Response to Original message
13. Why would the "terrorists" attack NY now?
Bush is the best friend they ever had. This "alert" is intended to stop any protests, and to have the taxpayer foot the bill for the RNC convention extravaganza.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
radwriter0555 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-02-04 08:05 AM
Response to Original message
14. oh PLEASE. Reliable information and "news" from the same state that paid
Atta 100K one month before 911? (Pakistan's ISI is on record as paying Mohammed Atta $100,000 one month before 9.11)

It makes NO sense. This is bogus.



Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
tinanator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-02-04 08:25 AM
Response to Original message
16. When was the last terrorist attack in the US?
Anthrax? No resolution there, it wasnt a foreign op anyway. The fact that we have gone years without so much as a car bombing pretty much shows who was behind and why we suffered 9-11-01. If "they" were out to get us, "they" have a million opportunities to do so. "They" arent, or "they" would have, repeatedly, over the last year alone,.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
ursacorwin Donating Member (528 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-02-04 08:34 AM
Response to Reply #16
18. fear is the only thing they have left.
to the original poster: look at the wisdom from your fellow DUers. they're right: even if this is "true," what guy wouldn't say whatever he was told if his family was at stake? this just cannot be trusted, and you've no reason to believe anything bushco says until lots of other independent groups have chimed in as well.

they will try to keep up the fear level at extra-crispy from now until the election. don't fall for it.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
thecrow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-02-04 08:42 AM
Response to Original message
20. Is this the "spectacular" "hit us hard" event
that the administaration promised us the terrorists are getting ready to do?
Oh... it's PRE 9-11 stuff found on a terrorist's computer?
Is it a spectacular event as promised by Tenent?
Can you say politically motivated?
I thought not
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
thecrow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-02-04 08:42 AM
Response to Original message
21. Is this the "spectacular" "hit us hard" event
that the administaration promised us the terrorists are getting ready to do?
Oh... it's PRE 9-11 stuff found on a terrorist's computer?
Is it a spectacular event as promised by Tenent?
Can you say politically motivated?
I thought not
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Wed Apr 24th 2024, 02:33 PM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (Through 2005) Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC