Well, we saw how eager some Democrats are to repeat Republican spin

[Feanorcurufinwe]

Poll question: Well, we saw how eager some Democrats are to repeat Republican spin

Do you respect people who eagerly spread Republican propaganda, or not?

[sui generis]

1. what are you referring to?

[Feanorcurufinwe]

2. Those 'Democrats' who eagerly repeat Republican spin.

If you don't know of any, I envy you.

[HFishbine]

6. Oh, you mean

the elected deomcrats who capitulate?

[Feanorcurufinwe]

9. Actually, I mean what I say.

You should try it sometime, it is refreshing.

[HFishbine]

28. Oh

Okay, we agree then: the pink tutu democrats -- as we fondly call them.

[Feanorcurufinwe]

29. Your post is essentially dishonest.

When I say that the words I am using are actually what I mean, and you reply with a transparent attempt to put words in my mouth, the underlying bankruptcy of your position is revealed. But, thanks for the kick, anyway.

[TryingToWarnYou]

30. Pot. Kettle. Black.

This from the guy ignoring facts ROFL!

[Feanorcurufinwe]

32. Using complete sentences might make your argument more coherent.

Keep kicking me, please, lol.

[sangh0]

33. Having an argument might help too

"Kerry was didn't vote while campaigning" isn't an argument; It's repuke propoganda

[Trajan]

3. For example: ...

NO Kerry supporter expected a 15 % bounce .... yet some DUers express disappointment that 15 % never materialized ...

GET REAL ! ...

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[Feanorcurufinwe]

8. I appreciate you kicking my thread

thank you.

[DemNoir]

4. DU is the place

For the purest most recent Republican spin.

[Feanorcurufinwe]

19. I think you may be right.

They try it out here first, because if it will fool the more gullible among DUers, it has a good chance of tricking people who aren't paying as close attention.

[KurtNYC]

7. I've seen a lot of that

Especially when it backs up their own negativity and cyncism.

[LSU_Subversive]

10. I respect people who make statements that are supported by data, etc.

to the best of their ability. Assuming that someone has the smarts to begin with, I hold them completely completely accountable for what they say. Willful ignorance does not fly with me.

Furthermore, people seriously need to start looking beyond the popular media for information. Usually the people here at DU are incredibly good at that, but every once-in-a-while.....

[sui generis]

17. well, but we have to cut a little slack

there are some people who don't have the resources or time to be spectacularly informed, and sometimes it isn't what you know that gets you in trouble, but what you don't know.

Let's give our fellow DU'ers, even the ones with dainty size 13's inserted carefully into their mouths, some props for being passionate and giving a damn. We're all in this together, and if we can't point out "inconsistencies" to our own people without tearing them down then we're not much better than the assholes we're fighting against.

[sangh0]

18. We "have to"

How sensible

[Frances]

11. Thanks for providing me with a poll that I can actually vote in

[Feanorcurufinwe]

15. My pleasure nt

[AntiCoup2K4]

12. No, I have no respect for the DLC at all

Those were the Republican propaganda spreaders you meant, right?

[genius]

14. The DLC is the Republican wing of the Democratic Party

[Sahjhan]

13. Absolutely not.

[ScreamingMeemie]

16. If you are referring to those who swallow down the words of Terry, Joe...

etal, No, I don't respect them, and I wish they'd go away. To heck with the DLC. :hi:

[Feanorcurufinwe]

20. I used plain English, I didn't mean something other than what I said.

[TryingToWarnYou]

21. Actually he is referring to me saying that Kerry's voting record is

the worst in the senate. The facts hand Feanorcurufinwe have never met.

http://www.congressmerge.com/onlinedb/cgi-bin/membervotes.cgi?&lang=&member=MAJR&site=congressmerge&address=&city=&state=&zipcode=&plusfour=&fullvotes=1

Take a good long look.

And the next time you try this shit, you better be prepared.

[Feanorcurufinwe]

23. If you are repeating Republican spin, I was refering to you.

If you are not, I am not.


Intelligent, informed DUers have the ability to read for themselves and form their own judgements.

[TryingToWarnYou]

31. And some are terrified to learn the truth because goes against

what they want to believe.

[Feanorcurufinwe]

34. Here are thousands of Ohioans who were ready to learn the truth.

And truth is what they heard. Will you?

Bush's defeat is all but certain. The biggest question now, is how big Kerry's coattails and how big of a gain we can make in the House.

[NewYorkerfromMass]

26. That judgement is highly subjective

and IMHO it is a bullshit claim.

[sandnsea]

27. Yes, that would be Republican spin

Because anybody who paid attention to what happened when Kerry went back to DC to vote recently, knows this voting record is Republican spin. The Republicans didn't bring the measure to the floor. If Kerry sat around in D.C. playing Republican voting games, he'd never be able to campaign at all. So maybe YOU can explain to us why you'd rather Kerry gazed at his naval in D.C. than be out talking to the people who we need to vote for him.

[TryingToWarnYou]

22. And how about telling us (especially me) what spin you are referring?

The "spin" about Kerry having a very bad voting record?

Thats not spin, its backed up by facts. My point, my ONLY point in saying it is that the pugs are going to use it against him and its the only real ammunition they have. People *will* question why his record is so sparse.

http://www.congressmerge.com/onlinedb/cgi-bin/membervotes.cgi?&lang=&member=MAJR&site=congressmerge&address=&city=&state=&zipcode=&plusfour=&fullvotes=1

[sangh0]

24. Here's spin

"Kerry got no bump from the convention"

"Kerry is a flip-flopper"

"Kerry will say anything"

"Kerry is pro-war"

"Kerry will send more troops to Iraq"

"Kerry will start a draft"

[Feanorcurufinwe]

25. I am refering to all forms of Republican spin.

Lies, half-truths, mischaracterizations, slanted news stories, bogus polls -- there is a whole slew of Republican spin out there - take your pick.

[Moderator]

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