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slinkerwink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-02-04 11:15 PM
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I am a New Yorker, and I am PISSED as Hell that
the information in the terror threat was THREE TO FIVE YEARS OLD! I just read the Washington Post story, which made me even more angry. I swear that tomorrow, when New Yorkers pick up their NYT edition off their doormats, they will be as ANGRY as I am tonight that all the "security" and jack-booted thugs installed in town was all based on OLD information!
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Norquist Nemesis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-02-04 11:16 PM
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1. 3-5 years old?
Haven't seen that one yet. But I told hubby that what's being put up as "late breaking news" just doesn't add up.

Sorry, dude. I'd be watching the subways and buses. :(
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Zing Zing Zingbah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-02-04 11:19 PM
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7. Do you have a link
to a news story about this?
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-02-04 11:24 PM
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11. NY times front page
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Norquist Nemesis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 12:26 AM
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25. Link? For what?
If you're looking for a link on public transportation threats :tinfoilhat: it's JMHO. Al Queda wants to kill as many of as possible and 'targeting' the financial district(s), as reported, just doesn't make sense. Does it to you?

The "specific" threats cited have not allowed car/truck traffic near them in quite some time....BUT!!!! The preferred method (as reported) is car/truck bombs. Does this make sense?

No, the soft targets in this country to kill as many Americans as possible is the public transportation. Bush has not done anything to beef up security with these areas and just look at, oh say, ...Israel. Pretty effective method to live in an area for 2 months, 6 months, a year and ride the same train/bus day in and day out. Then, on Day/Month/Year, KABOOM! Now, take that one day in day out operative times ten or fifteen in ten or fifteen major cities and what do we have?

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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-02-04 11:17 PM
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2. I was wondering Last night what New Yorkers would think of
bush now..that they were already pissed at him before they started sending in bogus "terror alerts"?
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-02-04 11:19 PM
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One of my bosses that is sympathetic to Bushler said
"hopefully they will move the convention." That's the general feeling here. Those assholes have put us under the gun.
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-02-04 11:18 PM
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3. You're in NY now?
I thought you were campaigning in Ohio? Are you originally from NY? Here are my thoughts from this morning. http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=2135976&mesg_id=2135976

My thoughts from tonight are not nearly as nice.
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slinkerwink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-02-04 11:19 PM
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5. I'm originally from TX, but in NYC now, and finished campaigning
I've logged a lot of air miles onto my luggage this summer.
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K-W Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-02-04 11:18 PM
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4. A friend of mine was forced by his family to leave the city over it.
Im pissed as all get out. I had to step in and help him out, he had to leave work and a play he was in because his family was freaked out by the terror alert.
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slinkerwink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-02-04 11:19 PM
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6. how do you think he'll react tomorrow?
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jpgray Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-02-04 11:20 PM
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8. I'll be watching the Daily Show tomorrow
He was all over Ridge tonight; I wonder what tomorrow will bring?
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slinkerwink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-02-04 11:21 PM
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9. yeah, I bet Jon'll be pissed as I am!
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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-02-04 11:24 PM
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10. How are they going to back out of this now?
All of a sudden just send all the SWAT guys home tomorrow, call the whole thing off? Notice that they did this on a Sunday afternoon for minimum disruption and maximum exposure?
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soggy Donating Member (222 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 01:05 AM
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26. how?
how do you think? as scary as it is to think about, what's the one thing that can keep this from coming back on 'em?

That's right... they need something to blow up.
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-02-04 11:24 PM
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12. I want to know
HOW THE HELL are the repubs going to have the balls to show up in NYC for their convention and expect a warm greeting? My G-d. What they have done is DISPICABLE! NYC has been through hell and back and those people use information that is 3-5 friggin' years old to put out an alert for nothing more than POLITICAL GAIN?? GEEZUS! Evil. Pure evil.
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slinkerwink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-02-04 11:27 PM
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13. they'll never get a warm greeting....the labor unions are having a
HUGE protest near the Madison Square Garden during the RNC Convention. There'll be plenty of "spilled water" on REthuglicans in New York City restaurants, mark my words.
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-02-04 11:50 PM
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21. What about Bloomberg?
Edited on Mon Aug-02-04 11:51 PM by in_cog_ni_to
He HAS to be pissed as hell at the cabal for doing this.
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slinkerwink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 12:09 AM
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23. fuck him!
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scottxyz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 01:08 AM
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27. Bloomberg is gay and used to be a Democrat
I doubt he gets much respect from "real" Republicans.

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Sugarbleus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-02-04 11:27 PM
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14. Ok, I've been reading this for hours (west coast here) but
what I don't get is: did they call OFF the threat? Did anyone say that the info was bogus? Do you feel safe now?

This administration is so Fubar(ed), they've got us coming and going. RED,ORANGE,GREEN,RED,GREEN,RUN, STOP, GO BLAHHHHHHHHHHH

WTH????
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slinkerwink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-02-04 11:47 PM
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19. I have no fucking idea anymore!
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MichaelHarris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-02-04 11:29 PM
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15. yes but
Orange is this seasons color according to the new Martha Stewart Sherwin Williams line of paint. So its time to redecorate wooohoooo.
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NightOwwl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-02-04 11:37 PM
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16. Here's the link to the Washington Post article.
IMO, it's a little more hard-hitting then the NYTimes.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A35466-2004Aug2.html

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lapfog_1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-02-04 11:37 PM
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17. How will they all feel when the rest of story comes out

Item. Today's terra drill was based on info extracted from the
laptop of the Al Queda guy in Pakistan.

Item. Based on the info, the terra warning went out and the color
code was upgraded to orange, and all sorts of extra anti-terror
shit goes on for the named locations.

Item. Didn't the Pakistanis claim to have apprehended this guy like
three or four weeks ago?

Why wait until NOW to push the orange "terra" button?
Why not three weeks ago?
UNLESS THEY KNEW IT WAS OLD OUTDATED INFO.

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slinkerwink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 12:05 AM
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22. I'm still pissed about it!
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scottxyz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 01:10 AM
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28. I'd like to see that laptop
Edited on Tue Aug-03-04 01:12 AM by scottxyz
How much you want to bet the "Modified Date" on the files they were looking at was back 3-4 years ago?

How much you want to bet it was something really obvious like this that any highschool student could have figured out?

Like the phony Iraq-Niger uranumium documents, where if anyone had done a google search, they could have noticed that the dates didn't match the terms of the officials who had "signed" them?



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lapfog_1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 01:40 AM
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29. Oh the data is old


but I'd like to see the list of targets...
because I'm SURE that the WTC is on it.
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LunaC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 01:56 AM
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30. I don't trust the Pakistanis or anything they say
The chief of Pakistan's Inter Service Intelligence (ISI) agency was linked to a 911 hijacker and the ISI has been in bed with the CIA for years. ANYTHING coming out of Pakistan should be taken with a grain of skepticism.

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proud patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-02-04 11:40 PM
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18. I'm not a New Yorker , but i'm pissed off also
:hi:
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slinkerwink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-02-04 11:48 PM
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20. this is going to backfire on Bush tomorrow!
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 12:14 AM
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24. Hi, Slinker, I eagerly await the backfire.
I hope everyone is as pissed as you. How's it going? Love your picture.
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