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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 12:56 PM
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I'm writing about the fake terra alert, and I want to thank DU
I first saw the stories about the dated data here.

One poster did a great thing with Ridge's words counterpointed with 'THREE. YEARS. OLD.' I am using it.

Another posted made a joke about the next warning being about the Millenium bug. I am using that, too.

Basically, the best lines in the piece came from here.

You guys rule.
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 12:58 PM
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1. You rule Will -
thanks for writing about the truth.

:yourock:
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rumguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 12:58 PM
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2. t'aint that the truth
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joanne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 01:01 PM
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4. Will Pitt rules and so does Truthout!
Thanks Will for doing such an awesome job.

:headbang: :yourock:
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wicket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 01:00 PM
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3. Keep up the awesome work Will!
:yourock:
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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 01:02 PM
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5. Be sure to include Laura & daughters visit to the Citigroup Bldg.
Imagine that - sending his entire family to the center of the Terror Alert on Day One of that alert.
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 01:03 PM
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7. Link?
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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 01:06 PM
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9. Right Here:
Laura Bush, wife of U.S. President George W. Bush, appeared this afternoon at Citigroup Center, one of the targeted buildings, along with her twin daughters Barbara and Jenna, at an event staged for Citigroup workers in the atrium of the 59-story tower, New York's fifth-tallest building. Mayor Michael Bloomberg and New York Governor George Pataki appeared with her, as they chatted with employees selected to talk with them.

``I want to thank people for coming to work,'' Laura Bush said to questions shouted from reporters. Citigroup is the world's biggest financial services company, and its Citibank branches are among the most visible U.S. businesses abroad.

http://quote.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=10000087&sid=arj.lT5AAc.s&refer=top_world_news

And the media control is impressive - DUers from NYC say it was all over their news and yet I have yet to see it on a single national source - and I have looked - hard.
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democrat_patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 01:07 PM
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10. Laura and Daughters tour Citigroup

which was mentioned in the terror alert. Secret Service let them go?

From: http://www.canoe.ca/NewsStand/LondonFreePress/News/2004/08/03/566867.html

"What we're talking about here is a very serious matter based on solid intelligence," President George W. Bush said.

......

New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg and Gov. George Pataki rang the opening bell at the stock exchange to show confidence in the city's security response.

"America and New Yorkers are pulling together here, and they're not going to be cowed," Bloomberg said.

He and Pataki visited the Citigroup building with Laura Bush, the president's wife, and her twin daughters in the afternoon.

"I want to thank people for coming to work. I'm really glad to be here today," Laura Bush said as she stopped to chat with office workers at the 59-storey skyscraper in Midtown Manhattan.

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Howardx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 01:08 PM
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11. here you go will
http://www.mywisecounty.com/news/080304-1.htm

you might want to include this little bit as well

http://apnews.myway.com/article/20040803/D847Q0E80.html

Top Bush administration officials said some of the surveillance was apparently updated as recently as January of this year. And they denied any allegations that the public release of the information now, and the raising of the terror alert, were politically motivated. They said the information was released now because it was just uncovered in Pakistan.

"We don't do politics in the Department of Homeland Security," Ridge said. "Our job is to identify the threat."

http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/ssistory.mpl/nation/2713552

"But we must understand that the kind of information available to us today is the result of the president's leadership in the war against terror,"
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 01:08 PM
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12. Another discussion...
Posted on Tue, Aug. 03, 2004
This time, threat is specific
By William Bunch
bunchw@phillynews.com


“WE ARE a nation in danger.”
President Bush uttered those words in the Rose Garden of the White House yesterday, even as workers in buildings in New York, Newark, N.J., and Washington, D.C., carried on normally in the wake of a newly reported terror threat.



http://www.philly.com/mld/dailynews/news/local/9309266.htm?1c
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Dudley_DUright Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 01:09 PM
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14. Here is one
Laura Bush, wife of U.S. President George W. Bush, appeared this afternoon at Citigroup Center, one of the targeted buildings, along with her twin daughters Barbara and Jenna, at an event staged for Citigroup workers in the atrium of the 59-story tower, New York's fifth-tallest building. Mayor Michael Bloomberg and New York Governor George Pataki appeared with her, as they chatted with employees selected to talk with them.

``I want to thank people for coming to work,'' Laura Bush said to questions shouted from reporters. Citigroup is the world's biggest financial services company, and its Citibank branches are among the most visible U.S. businesses abroad.

Bloomberg is founder and majority owner of Bloomberg LP, parent company of Bloomberg News.

U.S. Homeland Security Secretary Tom Ridge announced the alert and identified the buildings yesterday after intelligence authorities discovered al-Qaeda plans that Ridge described as unusually specific. The plot aims at major attacks on financial institutions symbolic of U.S. influence in the global economy, Ridge said.



http://quote.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=10000087&sid=arj.lT5AAc.s&refer=top_world_news
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Booster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 01:43 PM
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23. and be sure and mention why would the
Secret Service allow them to go.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 01:03 PM
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6. Thanks Will for getting the Truth Out!
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proud patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 01:04 PM
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8. oh yeah that was a great thread last night
Edited on Tue Aug-03-04 01:05 PM by proud patriot
I'm glad you are using it .

on edit here is a link to the thread Will's refering to
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x2143591
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Walt Starr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 01:09 PM
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13. You mihgt want to include the bit where the Pakistanis dispute
the claims of evidence of a fresh attack:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/3532360.stm

"Sheikh Rashid Ahmed denied that plans for fresh attacks on the US and UK were found on the suspects' computers."
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 01:33 PM
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21. Walt, do you think the Pakistanis have any credibility ??
They are right up there with the Bush regime for dishonesty.
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asthmaticeog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 01:53 PM
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25. The Pakistanis were cited as the source
for the terror alerts to begin with. HS used them as a source for data they don't actually have.
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Walt Starr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 01:58 PM
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26. No more than this administration
But they directly contradict the claims made by Ridge.
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Trajan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 01:13 PM
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15. Tell them ....
Willy Boy was here .....
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Robin Hood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 01:17 PM
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16. Here are some more condemming lines.
One official said the buildings were "vaguely referenced" in a "limited and generic way" -- for example, a single mention or a download of an Internet photo.

There was no indication, the officials said, that these sites had been cased, although local and state officials and security professionals at those buildings have been informed.

http://www.cnn.com/2004/US/08/03/terror.threat/index.html
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RobertSeattle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 01:17 PM
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17. Here a great politcal cartoon that sums it all up
Pat Oliphant


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Minnesota_Lib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 01:28 PM
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18. Terror Alerts = Free Campaign Ads
I loved the way Ridge slipped in a plug for the Bush campaign during his terror alert statement when he gushed about "the President's leadership in the war on terror," and implied that Bush’s leadership should be credited for this four-year-old information on which the alert is based.

Homeland security? Their homepage almost looks like a Bush campaign website.

http://www.whitehouse.gov/homeland/
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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 01:30 PM
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19. Now that the truth is out, that has turned into a back handed slap...
Kind of like saying "Intelligence every bit as good as the intelligence we used for Iraq.
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democrat_patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 01:31 PM
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20. Will here is agood link from another DUer - new
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Raven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 01:42 PM
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22. You folks here are FABULOUS!
You're like an army on alert! You have the information on a moments notice. Wonderful!
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gpandas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 01:51 PM
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24. information is the savior of truth...
and the scourge of tyrants.
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 02:07 PM
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28. Glad your family is part of the DU community, too, Raven.
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John_H Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 02:05 PM
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27. A good way to thank DU and
mske your piece more effective would be to quote from some of the prediction threads.

I remember a response in a thread I started in which a DUer predicted that an attack would be thwarted based on information gleaned from aggressive inteerogation of a subject captured in Pakistan. S/he was right on the money.


The DU predictions prove that anyone who expands their media horizons beyond CNN can recognize the Admin's BS in a second. The craven, cynical mediawhores, of course, recognize it too--they're willing accomplices.
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