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ElementaryPenguin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 12:57 PM
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BushCo is f*cking finished! "Old news" story is the dagger in the heart!
Short of rigging this election on an incredibly wide scale, the evil Buskeviks will be out of power within a few months. Their credibilty has now been completely destroyed in regards to their only perceived "strength" - National Security regarding terrorism! 'Muricans these days may be pretty darn dumb - but they're not THAT dumb - and it's the easiest of stories to understand!

These shameless fascist thugs are wounded and they are desperate - which normally would make these PNAC neo-con scumbags all the more dangerous - but they have by now made so many enemies in the intelligence community and the U.S. military - that they are probably scared shitless that they would likely be caught if they were to try pulling off another LIHOP or MIHOP attack - for which they would be obviously be strung by their evil *&$%$#*@$*(&'s!!!! They are certainly evil and greedy enough to "go for broke" at this point - but, alas, they are, at heart, mere cowardly CHICKENhawks - who undoubtedly prefer to retire to the Caribbean as rich old men, rather than be death row cellmates in The Hague!

Kerry, Edwards and every other Dem spokesperson should NOT let this story die! It is disgusting, indefensible, treasonous, and exceedingly easy to understand! SHOUT IT FROM THE ROOFTOPS, DEMS!!! BUSHCO IS SHAMELESSLY AND CRIMINALLY LYING AND MANIPULATING TERROR THREATS FOR POLITICAL EFFECT!!

And when the Plame outing indictments finally come down - and worst of all - the CHILD TORTURE story is finally broken wide by Hersh, the Washington Post, and others - we're talking the biggest landslide victory in U.S. history!
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WLKjr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 01:01 PM
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1. MSNBC poll had the * at 31%
I Bet it gets lower soon, real soon.
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Ilsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 01:02 PM
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2. They are desperate!
Edited on Tue Aug-03-04 01:03 PM by Ilsa
I've been receiving and seeing those easily debunked freeper emails on other message boards. I think they are a last ditch effort to change people's minds because they know * is losing support. Of course, I don't put anything past them when it comes to this election. Someone will likely come up with a "Kerry secretly meets with UBL" photoshopped picture in late October.

(Edited for typo.)
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cthrumatrix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 04:59 PM
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49. desperate people have no business running our country
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samsingh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 01:03 PM
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3. is the retraction making the news?
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lancdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 01:17 PM
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20. Check this out
http://www.yahoo.com

Ridge story on top
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ibegurpard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 01:04 PM
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4. They'll never be finished.
They're our real life version of Freddy, Jason and Michael Myers. We just will never be able to let down our guard again, like we did after Clinton was elected.
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ElementaryPenguin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 01:08 PM
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10. You're right about that. We will NEVER be able to let our guard down
ever again! The BFEE/PNAC mob may lose direct power over the government - but they certainly aren't going to fold up and quit! In short, they ain't going away, folks! Think the Mafia - with 100 times more resources!

:puke:
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 01:05 PM
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5. It's amazing what will sometimes tip the scales
Personally, I find this latest fake terror alert to be a yawn. It's such old news that BushCo controls the media and puts out fake info to influence people.

I don't understand why Abu Ghraib, Plame, Halliburton, and Bush/Cheney's hiding of their military and medical records didn't get more attention.

But for some reason, the news media noticed this one! Go figure. Maybe it's because this time it inconvenienced the media personnel themselves as they tried to get to and from work in NY and DC.

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ElementaryPenguin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 01:10 PM
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12. We know they've been pulling this - but now the public will.
And it's a very SIMPLE story - for (much as I hate to say it) a very SIMPLE electorate!
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central scrutinizer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 01:27 PM
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25. you're right -
too often it is perceived personalities rather than policies that tip the scales. This is the first time a sitting president has run against his opponent's wife. This is a desperate attempt to use whatever smear they can.
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ElementaryPenguin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 01:34 PM
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28. Good point.
My money's on the wife. People aren't going to give a shit about Theresa Heinz compared to what they feel about Iraq and Chimpy lying about threats and tripling the deficit as he destroys the environment!
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cthrumatrix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 01:05 PM
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6. only if the stake is "wooden" .... and with FU Cheney a cross around the
neck is highly advised.

Our first WH exorcism....pass it on.
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ElementaryPenguin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 01:28 PM
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26. LOL!
thanks! I needed a good laugh!
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rumguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 01:06 PM
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7. Is the media covering this story?
CNN? MSNBC?
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ElementaryPenguin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 01:11 PM
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13. Yes - but CNN just let the hurricane blow it off the front page!
:puke:
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Walt Starr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 01:06 PM
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8. I won't believe they are finished until Kerry is sworn in
and even then I'll be looking over my shoulder for an armed coup d'etat.
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ElementaryPenguin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 01:12 PM
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16. Well, we do need to maintain that much intensity until it's a fact!
This time it'd be nice if our winner actually got to reside in the White House!
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ElementaryPenguin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 01:39 PM
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30. Funny - even Tom Ridge himself seems sick of pulling this bullshit!
Edited on Tue Aug-03-04 01:39 PM by ElementaryPenguin
Wonder if his announcing he would likely be quitting is related to his revulsion over this new round of Cheney/Rumsfeld/Wolfowitz/Rove ordered propaganda bullshit??!!!
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bobbieinok Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 03:31 PM
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48. impeachment of Kerry????? blocking everything he tries????
24/7 media attacks????
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Sabriel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 01:06 PM
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9. Re-read your first sentence. I think it says it all. Yikes. n/t
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ElementaryPenguin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 01:14 PM
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17. I know. That's where we need to direct our efforts!! BBV!
It's Bushler's only hope!
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theHandpuppet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 01:08 PM
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11. Millions of Americans don't give a damn...
... that Bush lied about Iraq, why would they care about this latest sham? You could stack the lies and the bodies like a cordwood skyscraper and the fundie neocons would still proclaim Bush was sent by God to protect them from the MOO-lahs and those darn homosexuals.

Now if we could only catch him lying about a blowjob rather than a war we could really get some 24/7 coverage by the media and moral outrage by the fundies.
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Feanorcurufinwe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 01:12 PM
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15. The fact is, Democrats outnumber Republicans
and Americans who care about right and wrong outnumber those who don't.

The media can't stop us, we are gonna win this one.
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ElementaryPenguin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 01:24 PM
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24. Right on, comrade!
Nice little post!

:toast:
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ElementaryPenguin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 01:15 PM
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18. Millions, yes - but I gotta/wanna/need to believe they are the minority
Or else - like I said - I'm outta here!
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 01:12 PM
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14. Do you really think that?
After they stole the 2000 election, purged voters from polls, lied about Saddam/911 connection, lied about Niger yellowcake, lied about WMD, lied about Abu Ghraib, outed a CIA agent, hid Cheney's Energy task force papers, and now this? I don't think anything is ever going to bring these people down. They have TOO MUCH POWER! They have both houses of Congress, The Executive branch, the Supreme Court and the MEDIA. It's going to take a revolution from CONGRESS to bring these people down and I don't see that happening. Man, do I miss Paul Wellstone. HE would have had shit hitting the fan a LONG time ago. :(

I DO hope you're right, but so far, NOTHING has stuck to these people.
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ElementaryPenguin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 01:18 PM
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21. I think the American public is way more on to the evils of BushCo
Than the evil corporate press will let us know! They HAVE to be!
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giant_robot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 01:40 PM
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31. I think their bag of dirty tricks is almost empty
purging vote rosters isn't going to work this time. The democrats already have a team of lawyers assembled to see that the Florida debacle doesn't happen again. Karl Rove has been throwing a lot of the same old shit against the walls, but nothing seems to be sticking. They've made some powerful enemies in the pentagon and intelligence community who are now on guard for further shenanigans.

Unless they something big and original hidden up their sleeve (and I sincerly hope that's not the case), I think they've shot their wad.
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 02:12 PM
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39. I hope you're right.
They must have their Think Tanks working overtime coming up with all this bullshit and how to counter when people respond. It seems to be a never ending flow of CRAP coming from this administration. :(
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ElementaryPenguin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 02:27 PM
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41. I agree. Rove has shot his wad!
Even producing the scalp of Osama Bin Laden on Nov. 1st ISN'T going to do the trick! Most people are now on to the fact that these people are LIARS and CHEATERS! They have Saddam in custody and nobody gives a shit!
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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 01:17 PM
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19. Oh, Please! The media spin is better late than never
Edited on Tue Aug-03-04 01:18 PM by saracat
and most of the sheeple will buy it.There have been and probablly will not be and Plame inditements until after the election, and you can bet your bippy Busco will not be among them. That has already been indicated by the prosecutors office. The child torture story was out, and no media picked it up. Kerry and Edwards have no comments on this fake alert and they won't.They shouldn't let it die?They haven't mentioned it.They don't want to look like their wearing tinfoil hats. I find it amazing that anyone would believe in this corporate controlled media that there IS a story that could destroy Bushco let alone that the public would care about it.Sorry to burst your bubble.I wish it were true,but so far much worse things have been proven against these people and there has been NO impact.
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ElementaryPenguin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 01:22 PM
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23. Corporate media sucks bigtime - but their HAS been an impact!
The Evil Emperor War Chimp's approval ratings are about half of what they used to be! This idiot is now WIDELY hated - and the fascist whore press just isn't reporting it!
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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 01:38 PM
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29. If its not reported no one knows!
And if you don't know, it didn't happen.Duh! None of this has legs because they won't let it walk let alone run with the story!
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AntiCoup2K4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 01:20 PM
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22. "we're talking the biggest landslide victory in U.S. history!"
No we're not.....

Granted, we should be. This event alone, the deliberate lying and manipulation of the American people by the so called "President", is far worse than Clinton getting his dick sucked. It's far worse than Nixon's men stealing a handful of documents. It rivals Arms for hostage deals in it's blatant sellout of the security of the United States of America.

Yet none of that matters to an American public who will never hear the truth. So we tell them? Be nice if it worked that way, but take it from me, I've been telling people the truth about the Bush Criminal Empire for over 20 years now, and so many simply refuse to accept it.

Fuck, these bastards funded HITLER! They created Al Fucking Qaeda!! It doesn't get much worse than that.

Yet until the Sheeple hear Peter Jennings, or Dan Rather, or Tom Brokaw say it, they just won't believe it's true. :grr:
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ElementaryPenguin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 01:31 PM
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27. Folks are starting to believe the internet, their neighbor, M Moore and
even Howard Stern, more than they believe Jennings, Brokaw & Rather! More and more folks seem to now be "on" to our phony media!
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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 01:41 PM
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32. Those people always did. You don't think the average American
gets their news from alternate sources do you? The Faux News Networks ratings are through the roof! And that is one rating I believe because that involves their pocketbook. If it doesn't make money ,it's gone!
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ElementaryPenguin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 01:57 PM
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33. I think the average American is starting to find out by word of mouth
As antiquated a concept as it might sound - I think that it's the word of mouth of the individual - now millions of informed individuals (which I think we DUers can rightfully include ourselves) that is bringing down BushCo, just as word of mouth once ruled the promotion of films. Just my gut feeling - but I've heard more and more informed opinions coming from some notoriously uninformed relatives of mine. SOMEBODY'S telling these folks - and it sure as hell isn't FAUX News!
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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 02:09 PM
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38. There may be some, but are there enough?
And will they vote? Dems outnumber repugs in this country yet Dems don't vote. It's a fact.And some of the most outspoken of us don't vote .Look at John Edwards.He didn't vote until he ran for office! I love JE but still.Its an example.
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info being Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 02:25 PM
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40. Have to correct you...
Peter, Dan, and Tom won't get though to them either. If they don't like what they hear, they'll just call them Liberals.

Maybe the new has to come from their "spiritual leaders"...wait, no, then they'll just go to another church.
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aint_no_life_nowhere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 01:59 PM
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34. Bush not only needs to lose - it has to be a complete humiliation
Even if Bush's poll numbers get so low before the election that it appears to be a fait accompli, Democrats and people of conscience still must turn out in the heaviest possible numbers to make it a landslide defeat of historic proportions. Not only must Bush be rejected, but the entire principle behind his neoconservative agenda must be devastated and overwhelmed. We must send a message to the ultra right wing as a whole.

What I worry about, however, is whether Bush might still win in the electoral college, even if he loses the popular vote by 2 or 3 million or more, the latter which I expect. I know that overwhelming numbers of people will vote against Bush in the blue states such as in California and New York. What I wonder, however, is whether it will make a difference in the red states. Wouldn't it be shocking to the world if George Bush were to be severely trounced in the popular vote this time, but nonetheless win the election, due to our screwy electoral college system?
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Mayberry Machiavelli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 02:03 PM
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35. I agree. First, winning period is the most important thing. But after
that, it is also important that a national repudiation of shrubco and all their ways be demonstrated in a convincing, undeniable way.
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ElementaryPenguin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 02:07 PM
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37. Repudiation of Bushler is the only road to redemption in the eyes of
The World! Starting with "preemptive" war! (a fucking war crime unto itself!)
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ElementaryPenguin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 02:05 PM
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36. If America doesn't reject Bushler this time, the WORLD will reject America
And I mean BIG-TIME!

:puke:
:argh:
:mad:
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Tight_rope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 02:29 PM
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42. Man...You are mad...and rightfully so. All American's should be angry!
What they did was despicable. But to many DUers we knew it was all just more lies. We caught on to their trail long ago.

"Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice...can't be fooled again!"
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ElementaryPenguin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 02:47 PM
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44. I wanna see America's reaction to the Child Torture story
When it finally breaks wide! And it WILL! (As Seymour Hersh has said) Like to see FAUX and CNN try to spin THAT story in a positive or harmless way! Then, I predict - you will then seem M-A-D MAD!!!!! Well A-N-G-R-Y, actually - MAD is what we're getting from the evil Busheviks!

DAMN RIGHT, I'M ANGRY - AND BUSHCO HAS DRIVEN ME MAD!!
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Generator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 02:39 PM
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43. Who wants to know if the WTC and the Pentagon
were in the detailed report? Huh...wouldn't that be quite a nugget to slip out.

And maybe I'm a simpleton, but now that these very specific buildings are mentioned, security is increased, is that where Al Queda would strike? Wouldn't it be the last place they would strike? Wouldn't they be striking someplace else??? Someplace I don't know-that we aren't suspecting?

They may be fools, but at least we aren't being fooled.

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ElementaryPenguin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 02:48 PM
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45. Excellent points, G!
:dem:
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ignatius 2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 03:06 PM
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46. Oh God, EP. I so hope you are right. Dancing barefoot in the
street at my house when it happens.

Goodbye W, you evil and disgusting boogeyman and hello hope.
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DinahMoeHum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 03:19 PM
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47. As Larry Flynt (Hustler) says in his new book. . .
"...Americans (are) waking up and smelling something other than the coffee."

- "Sex, Lies and Politics: The Naked Truth"

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0758204833/qid=1091564196/sr=ka-1/ref=pd_ka_1/002-1183196-0674419


:evilgrin:

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