Who are the "good guys" in the media?

[jdj]

Asking because when I read the other thread I know more about the punks than the prophets.

I can safely say Paul Krugman is a good guy. And I like Greg Palast, even when he doesn't like me (or us). And Molly Ivins.

I don't have ANY tolernance for media 'moderates' or people who try to "see both sides". That is SO 1999.

Of course the AAR people are, but many of them aren't really "media" they are more 'personalities', except for Randi and now Mike Malloy.

Everyone on the Daily show, if that counts. Help me out, the other thread made me realize how little trust I have left when I can only name 4 or 5 people.

[newsguyatl]

1. MAINSTREAM media good guys include

terry moran, david gregory, aaron brown, keith olbermann, tom brokaw, dan rather, and ummm... gosh, there aren't that many nowadays eh?

[grasswire]

2. and.....

.....some of those you pick are dubious choices! Tom Brokaw wouldn't be on my list (after watching him on c-span over the weekend). Aaron Brown runs hot and cold. David Gregory has come around but is still not aggressive enough, consistently.

[newsguyatl]

3. yeh, the pickings are slim

i guess by "good guys" i mean "not bad guys"

heh.

[jdj]

4. I will never forgive Tom Brokaw

for the way he gushed over W. when dubya "won" the election, before Al Gore retracted his consession.

It made me want to puke. I don't trust any of the gray guys, gray-haired guys in gray suits who pretend to be the gray between black and white.

[newsguyatl]

5. i watched brokaw almost that entire night

and not once did i see him gushing.

in fact, he looked rather distraught the entire night IMO.

[jdj]

8. he gushed in a masculine way.

Maybe gushed is a bad word. I can't quote exactly, but he enunciated smarmingly about W. in a way that looked like he was about to wank off. It gave me the opinion he was happy W. won; you just had to see what I saw, it made a permanent mark on my psyche and I haven't been able to watch him since. These news men need to get over foisting our Freudian and Jungian idols and symbols and archetypes upon us in the form of political candidates and help the public see that these are real, flawed and possibly deranged human beings who if put in a position of enough power could possibly fuck up the entire world. If they are not doing this, then they are just salesmen and marketeers.

[el_gato]

6. You've gotta be kidding me

Brokaw and Rather are propagandists just like the rest of 'em.

[jdj]

14. Oh, geez, did any one see Rather's interview with

Toby Keith? I had no idea Rather was so insecure in his masculinity. Rather had a beer just to impress Toby, it was so embarassing how uncomfortable, yet strangely enchanted Dan looked next to this big, burly, bucktoothed buffoon of a hillbilly bard.

This was a situation where condescension would have been appropriate, Rather should have nailed Keith to the wall for his jingoism and hypocrisy (sample question: "if you are so in favor of this war, what is stopping you from enlisting?" HELLO!) But instead he just batted his lashes and soaked up the testosterone. It was disgusting.

[tom_paine]

15. Tom Brokaw and Dan Rather? Not on MY list.

[bryant69]

7. I try to see both sides.

I suppose that means you won't be buying this bridge I was going to sell you.

Bryant
check it out --> http://politicalcomment.blogspot.com

[jdj]

9. This is a great site, great comments on Ann Coulter/USA today

'Or else Ann is just a sloppy writer and doesn't really think through the implications of what she is writing.

Apparently USA today has decided that the latter explanation is more plausible, and I have to say, now that I've dropped my erudite critic voice, that I agree. Salon has a great article on how and why she was dropped that goes into her piece further. The piece contains a great bit on comparing Ann Coulter to Michael Moore (who USA Today has apparently tapped to cover the Republican Convention.

"USA Today editorial page editor Brian Gallagher, defending the choice, told a reporter Coulter "was a voice from side with standing and visibility." Notice how credibility was not a requirement. By contrast, for the Republican convention in August, USA Today has tapped Academy Award-winning director Michael Moore to file dispatches.

Are the two really compatible? Nowhere in his movie "Fahrenheit 9/11" does Moore suggest, for instance, that Republicans hate America or that Bush's Cabinet members are akin to Iraqi terrorists. Moore is an accomplished and, yes, partisan filmmaker; Coulter is a factually challenged name-caller. Could USA Today honestly not tell the difference?"

http://politicalcomment.blogspot.com

[carolinayellowdog]

10. Daniel Schor on radio, Bill Moyers on TV

most of NPR folks are OK; the baddies are Williams, Roberts, and (to a lesser degree) Liasson.

[jdj]

11. Jeebus, I can't believe forgot St. Bill.

I llllllllllloooooooooooooovvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvveeeeeeeeeeeee Bill Moyers, a flaming liberal with an oh-so-southern drawl. Too bad he is retiring. Probably because he can't bear to be on the same network as It. I can't make my self type it's name. Bow-tie and Break Girl hair. Bounces around in his chair like he's got hemorrhoids. The kind of face inmates dream about. May their dreams be fulfilled someday. Soon.

[lpbk2713]

13. I agree on Bill Moyers (PBS)

He usually has some interesting pieces on his show. Too bad he's leaving.

[featherman]

12. TV media only

Keith Olberman, Jon Stewart, Aaron Brown (mostly, sort of), the 360 guy (maybe), Dan Rather ( I am told... I don't watch nightly news), David Letterman. Pretty short list for such a "liberal medium".

Everybody is else pretty much unwatchable anymore 'cause I have high blood pressure and need to be concerned about my health.

[jdj]

19. Good for you.

I don't have high blood pressure, but I am concerned for the health of my television., becaue I can't afford a new one. I definitely would not recommend tv news to anyone with high blood pressure or a bad heart.

I have wondered about Keith Olberman, myself. I thought, he can't really be a liberal, because he is on MSNBC. But maybe I'm wrong.

I wonder what Anderson Cooper's affiliations are. I loved him on the first season of "The Mole."

[tom_paine]

16. Tom Brokaw and Dan Rather not on MY list

Whatever they once were (and maybe they never WERE what they once were), they are ineffectual frightened cheerleaders.

What I imagine the "respectable journalists" morphed into in Nazi Germany.

[Walt Starr]

17. Keith Olberman

and Jon Stewart.

Aaron Brown can be okay some times.

Can't think of anybody else.

[Sirveri]

18. I'm a big fan of Lou Dobbs.

Haven't been able to catch his show lately though. But last time I did I was in agreement with a lot of what he was saying.

[jdj]

20. Come into my parlor said the spider to the fly.

This one raises my hackles. I agree on outsourcing %100, but in all other areas I will continue to distrust him. CNN would not give a primetime show to a liberal, or probably even a moderate.

[LTR]

25. Lou does a lot of coverage on electronic voting

Covers many of the problems of paperless e-voting.

I doubt your typical Bush shill would do that.

Lou's a conservative, but he isn't a whore. He is refreshingly honest.

[donkeyotay]

21. by definition, there are no good guys on TV

Remember folks, it's like an abusive spouse. Between episodes of trashing your right to live in a democratic country, they're going to sweet talk you and buy flowers. It doesn't change what they are.

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[SheilaT]

23. Amy Goodman

Please tune into Democracy Now.

www.democracynow.org and see if there's a station near you to listen to. Otherwise, listen to it on-line.

If you only caught her show every day, and nothing else, you'd be remarkably well informed on things that truly matter, although you'd be missing out on such media wonders as the guys who murder their pregnant wives (Maybe that'll be the next reality show?).

[Shopaholic]

24. Keith Olbermann for sure

I'm not saying he's on our side 100%, but he is fair and that's all too rate a commodity these days.

[terrya]

26. Josh Marshall is a good guy.

Hard working and eminently fair.

[Demoiselle]

27. Lou Dobbs, for outsourcing outrage, Keith Oberman (sp?) Mark Shields....

...in print, Gene Lyons and Joe Conason. Peter Jennings occasionally says something moderately honest (which jumps out at me because such stuff is so rare) and I have a sentimental attachment to CBS which still appears to try to present a relatively focused half hour of actual news...but Edward R. Murrow is long gone. And the broadcast guys are all at the mercy of their corporate bosses, they've ALL been effectively stripped of any credibility.