I really believe we are being set up

[KYDEM]

The way that they are trying to get our side to say that these alerts are political. I think they are going to have a big show of a capture and a thwarted terror attack. What else are they going to have going to their convention *'s record? The only way they can have a successful convention is to prevent an attack. The whole convention will be about how * has saved us from the evil terrorist. The press will be showing all the clips of any Dem. that said this alert was political purposes and will tell us that we need * to keep us safe because the Dem. don't take the threat serious enough. I think we need to be prepared for this and think of ways to use a thwarted attack to show that had they been on the ball before 9/11 they could have prevented it also.

[redstateblues]

1. That's Why Kerry Is Playing this one Well

[rucky]

2. Put this in your pipe & smoke it:

I agree with you, except the "thwarted attack" won't be Al-Queda at all. They will detain members of a "liberal extremist group"

[KYDEM]

5. the alert

also helps to control the huge protest that are suppose to take place. I sure hope they do not use the guise of a "liberal extremist group" but then i would not put anything pass them.

[Beam Me Up]

6. Not yet, perhaps. But ultimately they must tie the left with terror. n/t

[rucky]

9. If they don't have the next election "in the bag..."

it'll be more sooner than later.

[Laura_B_manslaughter]

3. A thwarted terror attack won't help bush

How is he gonna prove it? And a real terror attack wouldn't help him either cause america would say "can't he protect us at all?. What bush needs is for the economy to turn around and it doesn't seem to be doing that. The stock market has been tanking all year.

[NightOwwl]

15. He hasn't had to prove shit since he took office.

WMD's?

Al Qaeda, Dead or Alive?

Strong Leadership?

Successful "War" President?

And what about all these "Terror Alerts" issued since 1992. Never had to prove they were based on real intel. Because I think you might doubt me, here is an interesting article from 1992, published before the media shut itself down:
Dan Rather: Bush Issued Fake Terror Alert To Cover 911 Bungle
http://www.rense.com/general25/ratherbush.htm

[wiggs]

4. Good observation

You could be right. You are devious, clever, creative, and unprincipled. In the business?

[KYDEM]

8. no

but I have been watching them manipulate this country for the last 4 and half years beginning with the unexplained high gas prices during the summer of 1999 when oil man bush was running.

[The_Casual_Observer]

7. I think that they are much more linear than you describe

I believe that the "evidence" that they have found is what ever it is and the press had found out about it at about the same time. They probably didn't think that they had any choice but to do this now, otherwise they might be accused of doing nothing. They choose to do all this on Sunday rather than Monday to avoid a panic. They know this is all bullshit, but at this point they have to play the game, lest they show weakness or lack of "resolve".

[joefree1]

10. No problem

"The republican's obsessive use of the Terrorist alert is dulling America into a state of complacency."


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[KYDEM]

11. Deleted by poster

n/t

[KYDEM]

12. So let's say

They capture terrorist just in time to prevent them from blowing up one of the said targets. What will America be hearing for the few weeks before the convention 24/7. Bush will be declared Savior and we will never hear Kerry mentioned again.

[The_Casual_Observer]

13. They can't even find UBL etc.

How are they ever going find anybody who hasn't done anything yet?

A "foiled plot" is about a probable as invading Iraq and finding Saddam's private stash of WMD in the "endless tunnel system" in Iraq.
Remember the need for "Bunker Busters"?

[The_Casual_Observer]

14. They can't even find UBL etc.

How are they ever going find anybody who hasn't done anything yet?

A "foiled plot" is about a probable as invading Iraq and finding Saddam's private stash of WMD in the "endless tunnel system" in Iraq.
Remember the need for "Bunker Busters"?

[KYDEM]

17. They have told us

That there are cells here in the states www.cnn.com/2002/US/02/23/gen.terror.graham

When they announced this I thought well if they know the number of terrorist that are here they most know where cause how could they have a count? So I think they know something or (they are working with some a little tin-foil) so that it will be a staged capture.

[oasis]

16. Chimpy should get no more press than was given to Clinton when he averted

the millinieum terrror strike.

[ClassWarrior]

29. I guess you're right. I'm giving up and going to watch television.

<sarcasm off>

[kentuck]

18. The possibility should not be dismissed...

A lot of things are popping in Pakistan right now. Thirteen al Qaeda operatives were arrested in Britain today. There were email addresses and other info that had many leads, we could assume, from the captured computer. It would not surprise me to see Osama in custody before the Repub Convention is over... Bush is putting a lot of pressure on Pakistan as far as greasing the palms of the right people and it seems to be getting results. A lot of stuff is happening...

[ClassWarrior]

30. Not dismissed...

...but certainly viewed with a critical eye. And I know YOU have one of those, Kentuck.

[Tsiyu]

19. You said it best in your last sentence

"I think we need to be prepared for this..."

BTW, Welcome KYDEM.


IF our soldiers were not in Iraq, wouldn't we be better protected at home? If the real "War" is still on our own turf, why aren't our soldiers here, also?
Are we better prepared stretching our troops thin in Iraq?

THESE are the real questions.

the only possible answers are:
A) We are being run by an administration too ignorant to realize and too greedy to care or
B) We are being run by an administration which is A) PLUS ready to see harm come to America to serve their own ends even further.

What would Pogo do?

[dmr]

20. They have no interest in what is good for the general public

they are idealogues who care for personal and political outcome.

I'm reading 'The Price of Loyalty'by Ron Suskind.

This is what Paul O'Neill has to say:

"O'Neill, like others who served with Cheney under different presidents, was almost always in the dark about his actual beliefs. But they'd sometimes pick up his method: quietly select an issue, counsel various participants, manufacture the exchange of seemingly impromptu letters or reports - the bureaucratic version of a media event - and then guide unfolding events toward the intended outcome. This was the puppeteer's craft, all done with strings and suggestions.

In the end, there are no fingerprints. No accountability."

Sorry, no link, I copied directly from the book.

Read it and read it again. It can be applied to so many tricks they have played upon people and the public.

[cthrumatrix]

22. it's an oustanding book and NOT talked about by the media...wonder why.

[dmr]

23. It's a book that I has kept me awake at night thinking

I can't articulate what this book has done to me intellectually and emotionally. These are things we've been discussing here on DU for more than 3 years; but to actually read the account of Paul O'Neill's experiences in this White House has my mind racing a mile a minute.

Bush* and the White House are more of a fraud than we can imagine. How I wish we had an honest media. An honest broker, as I've learned from this book. Instead we are the audience to a very bad orchestra whose is lead by a very nasty conductor.

[Keirsey]

24. "The Price of Loyalty"

Just started reading this book. (Interrupted by "The Bush Dyslexicon").

This site provides copies of WH documents, and shows how they set Richard Clarke up after his book was published.

http://thepriceofloyalty.ronsuskind.com/

[dmr]

26. Thank you, Keirsey

Thank you so very much!
:)

Edit: I just noticed that you recently joined DU. Hey! Welcome to DU, and thanks again!

[Zorra]

21. We are being set up. It is obvious. n/t

[Enraged_Ape]

25. Onstage at the RNC, Bush will get in a karate fight with a terrorist

Choreographed by Bushbot Chuck Norris. I think that's why we've seen the monkey with a lot of cuts, scrapes, and bruises lately.

Of course, it will look laughably phony, but the Republicans will eat it up. At least a ten-point surge in the polls.

[EndElectoral]

27. Cheney will curse them to death

[ClassWarrior]

28. Good. That's why Dr. Dean is offering himself as sacrificial lamb...

...and Kerry's sticking to the high road. We all know that Howard Dean guy's crazy anyway, right? (wink and "yeaghhhhhhhh!!!")