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vetwife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-04 09:28 AM
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Maybe its time we do a little checking on O'Neill..Looks like a drunk
Edited on Wed Aug-04-04 09:30 AM by vetwife
to me...Maybe he is a wife beater. A constant inpatient. Maybe there is a whole lot of dirt on this man. I am sure there is. Maybe we need to find it. We know he is a Nixon operative and an idiot but maybe we need to d a little snooping ourselves.

Don't get me wrong...I have a husband who is an inpatient a lot at the VA but I am talking inpatient for delusions of sorts. Lets shee his DD214. Lets see how many times this guy has been married. He is the one who started this. Maybe we can look at him a little closer.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-04 09:32 AM
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1. He's part of a very partisan law firm in Texas, so
I imagine they have worked with plenty of Rethuglican crooks.
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ibegurpard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-04 09:34 AM
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3. Apparently he clerked for Rehnquist
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vetwife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-04 09:35 AM
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4. What law firm I wonder...and in Texas too? Hmmmmmmmmm
does he take Oilwells for fee?
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OKNancy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-04 09:36 AM
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5. Wonder if Texas has court
records online. Oklahoma does. I looked up my ex-husband ( 23 years ago ex) and found out he has a drunk driving conviction and has been married and divorced four times since our annulment.
:evilgrin:
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buycitgo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-04 10:02 AM
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20. pull his driver's license
unless he had his destroyed, like the chimp's all his convictions will be on there
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OKNancy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-04 09:32 AM
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2. I'd love to start a DU Debunker
Perhaps in Politics and Campaigns forum. Gather together all the lies and then the evidence. For example the latest going around about Kerry being a C student at Yale. Douglas Brinkley ( famous historian) writes that he was the Valedictorian.

The swiftboat lie will take a lot more digging. God I hate rightwingers.

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wicket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-04 09:39 AM
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8. Excellent idea!
That would be very cool!
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KharmaTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-04 09:46 AM
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11. Isn't That What We're Doing? Rapid Response
Already since yesterday I've seen a dozen posts about the O'Neill slander with links to Snopes and a complete history from Cavett to Renquhist to partnering with Boy Blunder's Lt. Governor. To say the source is dubious is an understatement.

I like this asshole coming out from under his rock. He's making Kerry look better every time he opens his mouth. This sad-sack looks like the guy who never could get the attention of the class unless he threw a tantrum. Pathetic...but also very lucky and has gotten rich in selling his soul over and over again.

For the wingnuts, he's one of their only hopes to go after Kerry's military record, and to use lie and deception...the modus operandi of the reich wing...to do so. Since O'Neill or any of his goons ever served with Kerry, all they're doing is second guessing. There's no fire here at all. Especially when you see the close-knit unity among Kerry's real Swiftboat mates.

You tell me that hug between Kerry and the man he saved doesn't speak volumes of the man's service then and now...and attempts to divert attention from Bunnypant's most dangerous hypocricies...willing to send your children to be killed while he not only avoided but deserted the military when it was his turn.

O'Neil's book will get a couple days of "raves" from the right wing media until the overwhelming facts of his conflicts start coming forth in the "liberal media". But by then O'Neill has made a ton of bucks from wingnut book sales and becomes a media celebrity. A man totally whored and pathetic.
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Ilsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-04 10:11 AM
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27. I suggested this and was told
that everyone needs to do their own research to become better acquainted with the history of candidates, etc.

But i agree, a debunker forum would be a great place to go and retrieve information to debunk lying freeper emails, etc. Some people suggest ignoring them, but I have encountered them on other message boards. I have replied to every one of them because I don't want them spreading lies that might influence independent voters or waffling Kerry voters.
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OKNancy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-04 03:13 PM
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33. I don't see any reason
that it couldn't be compiled here for convenience. Even snopes can't find everything, and they probably wouldn't use Salon.
I saved a Col Hackworth article talking about the purple heart business.

LOL - and nobody could stop me from posting it in Politics & Campaigns anyway. If it doesn't go over...then it will die a slow death.

I might start tomorrow early.
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democrat_patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-05-04 01:18 AM
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37. I think a debunker forum is an excellent idea.

There are dozens of post daily "Help me debunk this..."

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vetwife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-05-04 01:23 AM
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38. I agree..I think a debunker idea is great..and
where do you think MM and some other folks are getting their material.
Here..Right Here.
We need to take the clothes off O'Neill and show him for what he is because he is going from network to network changing minds I am sure. Keep in mind the veteran vote is volatile regarding Kerry and he has them inhis corner right now., the majority that I have talked to but we don't need any wanta be paid Enron, Houston, GOPer out there with no dirt on him smearing without comebacks ! I have come to the opinion it is up to We the People to get the info.
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-04 09:37 AM
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6. The first time I saw him was on C-SPAN
Edited on Wed Aug-04-04 09:46 AM by in_cog_ni_to
and he said he had had MANY calls to get involved in bashing Kerry (my words), but he had just donated a kidney to someone and he had to recuperate. That's all I know about the man besides the fact that he's a shill for the GOP.
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billybob537 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-04 09:43 AM
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9. He donated a kidney to his wife?
That sounds suspicious. The odds of being a match for a particular person are hundreds of thousands to one. I'm not saying it's impossible just highly unlikely.
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-04 09:50 AM
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13. Hmmm.....maybe it was another family member?
A brother, sister, son, daughter, father or mother? He donated a kidney to "someone." :) I changed my post to "someone" instead of wife. My memory is GONE. :(
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vetwife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-04 10:01 AM
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19. LOL Maybe he married his sister.....That kidney thing would not
work on a wife. I don't think.
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Carni Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-04 09:38 AM
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7. Conason/Salon article...exposes O'Neill/ A MUST READ
http://www.salon.com/opinion/conason/2004/05/04/swift/index_np.html

Snips from article but you should really read the WHOLE thing because there is too mych info to fit in here!

These people are also tied to Ken Starr

"Colson, who went to prison for Watergate crimes, saw O'Neill as a perfect foil to Kerry, whom Nixon and his aides feared as a decorated, articulate and reasonable opponent of the war and their regime. Indeed, O'Neill was perfect -- a crewcut officer who had served on the same Navy swift boat that Kerry had commanded, although their stints in the Mekong Delta didn't overlap. In June 1971, Colson brought O'Neill up to Washington for an Oval Office audience with Nixon. His impressions live on in a memo filed later:"

MORE

"To establish his nonpartisan credentials, O'Neill assured the CNN anchor that he was "never contacted" by the Bush-Cheney campaign. What he didn't mention, however, is that his law firm boasts long-standing and powerful connections with the Bush White House.

With an oil and litigation practice focused on the defense of major energy and industrial firms, the dozen partners in Clements, O'Neill, Pierce, Wilson & Fulkerson have clout that exceeds their firm's small size. Their corporate clients include Exxon Mobil, General Electric, Reliant Energy, Koch Industries and Eastman Kodak. More important, among the name partners is Margaret Wilson, the former general counsel to George W. Bush during his second term as Texas governor. (She succeeded Alberto Gonzales, who currently serves as White House counsel.)

In 2001, Wilson went to Washington with the new president, who appointed her deputy general counsel in the Department of Commerce. During her tenure as Bush's counsel in Austin, she was implicated in the Service Corporation International funeral home scandal. State government whistle-blower Eliza May accused Wilson of participating in an effort to "intimidate" her from pursuing an investigation of SCI, a major Bush campaign donor"




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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-04 10:48 AM
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31. Thanks, Carni! Conason's got the guy pegged!
"Smear Boat Veterans for Bush!" Hah!

Here's another from Conason on the Nixon-Rehnquist turd O'Neill in Salon:

The GOP's not-so-impartial hit man

Desperate to denigrate John Kerry's war record, Republicans have trotted out a "nonpartisan" Navy Vietnam vet -- who was a protege of Nixon dirty trickster Charles Colson and whose law firm is closely tied to the Bush White House.

By Joe Conason

April 23, 2004  |  Houston attorney John E. O'Neill, the Navy veteran who has emerged recently as a harsh and ubiquitous critic of John Kerry's military service, tells reporters that he has never really been interested in politics and isn't motivated by partisan interests. In the media, O'Neill is often described simply as a Vietnam vet still enraged by the antiwar speeches Kerry delivered more than 30 years ago. That was when O'Neill first came to public attention as a clean-cut, pro-war protégé of the Nixon White House's highest-ranking dirty trickster (aside from the late president himself), Charles Colson.

Colson, who went to prison for Watergate crimes, saw O'Neill as a perfect foil to Kerry, whom Nixon and his aides feared as a decorated, articulate and reasonable opponent of the war and their regime. Indeed, O'Neill was perfect -- a crewcut officer who had served on the same Navy swift boat that Kerry had commanded, although their stints in the Mekong Delta didn't overlap. In June 1971, Colson brought O'Neill up to Washington for an Oval Office audience with Nixon. His impressions live on in a memo filed later:

"O'Neill went out charging like a tiger, has agreed that he will appear anytime, anywhere that we program him and was last seen walking up West Executive Avenue mumbling to himself that he had just been with the most magnificent man he had ever met in his life."

CONTINUED...

http://archive.salon.com/opinion/conason/2004/04/23/o_neill/
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kskiska Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-04 09:44 AM
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10. Joe Conason's written about him
http://www.salon.com/opinion/conason/2004/04/23/o_neill/index.html

With an oil and litigation practice focused on the defense of major energy and industrial firms, the dozen partners in Clements, O'Neill, Pierce, Wilson & Fulkerson have clout that exceeds their firm's small size. Their corporate clients include Exxon Mobil, General Electric, Reliant Energy, Koch Industries and Eastman Kodak. More important, among the name partners is Margaret Wilson, the former general counsel to George W. Bush during his second term as Texas governor. (She succeeded Alberto Gonzales, who currently serves as White House counsel.)

In 2001, Wilson went to Washington with the new president, who appointed her deputy general counsel in the Department of Commerce. During her tenure as Bush's counsel in Austin, she was implicated in the Service Corporation International funeral home scandal. State government whistle-blower Eliza May accused Wilson of participating in an effort to "intimidate" her from pursuing an investigation of SCI, a major Bush campaign donor.

(snip)

As for O'Neill, his Republican loyalties may well have been cemented in 1974. Three years after Colson first brought him to the White House to meet with Nixon, who encouraged the young O'Neill to "get" Kerry and the protesters in Vietnam Veterans Against the War, he launched his legal career with a coveted clerkship in the United States Supreme Court. No doubt it was mere coincidence that O'Neill clerked with William Rehnquist, the controversial conservative who was Nixon's favorite justice and who went on to be appointed chief justice by President Reagan.

Nixon is gone, but his political heirs possess the White House -- and no doubt the disgraced politician would be pleased and proud that they are harassing Kerry with the same zeal that first brought Karl Rove to the attention of Watergate investigators. The young veteran he once showcased is now 58 years old, but O'Neill seems just as eager to battle Nixon's old enemies as he was back then.
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vetwife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-04 09:47 AM
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12. The target for investigation
Edited on Wed Aug-04-04 09:55 AM by vetwife
Here is the look alike Asscroft....Lets check him out ! !




Can anyone run a 10-29 on him? Background check..
Only lawenforcers and dispatchers can but I know some of you here are probably dispatchers..I used to be one in Texas..many moons ago.....
Law firm...probably espunged any DUI but would still be interesting.
We are checking his political motives..no one that I know has checked his morality, or personal credibility. He has some big names behind him from GE to the Oil Industry but this guy is dirty..Bank on it !
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Merlin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-05-04 01:11 AM
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36. I remember this ass from the 70s. He's way too much of a wus to do...
anything that takes that much creative thought. He's just a bootlicking sychophant.
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bluedog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-04 09:51 AM
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14. Did he write this book?
The Addiction Workbook: A Step-by-step Guide to Quitting Alcohol & Drugs
By Patrick Fanning, John O'Neil
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vetwife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-04 09:52 AM
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15. I think the last name is spelled different but who knows..That is
why Iposted his pic.....Any pics of biography in that book?
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vetwife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-04 09:58 AM
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16. Looks like he's tied to the Funeral Home Scandal according to
that article via the Bushs.
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-04 09:59 AM
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17. That guy sucks ass for Richard Nixon AND SupremeTurd Bill Rehnquist.
So a Texas lawyer named John O'Neill wants to peddle his book of lies? Let's give the mini-BFEE turd the what's for. First: this John O'Neill was singled out by the crook Richard Nixon and his White House turds to smear John Kerry. Second, in exchange for his "service" to the War Party, O'Neill was repaid by CLERKING for the Supreme Court disgrace William Rehnquist.

History of the swift vets

Who is John O'Neill?


O'Neill is one of several Vietnam veterans who have criticized Kerry and called into question the decorations he received for his service combat. O'Neill is associated with the newly formed group "Swift Boat Veterans for Truth," which held a press conference on May 4 that was promoted by the Media Research Center's Cybercast News Service and highlighted by The Drudge Report on May 3. According to Cybercast News, "Hundreds of former commanders and military colleagues of presumptive Democratic nominee John Kerry are set to declare in a signed letter that he is 'unfit to be commander-in-chief.'"

Houston lawyer John O'Neill is a Republican -- as the Houston Chronicle noted the day after O'Neill's interview with Blitzer. According to the paper, O'Neill voted in the 1998 Republican state primary. But O'Neill's ties to the Republican Party extend far beyond party affiliation. During the CNN interview, Blitzer reported that former President Richard Nixon had urged O'Neill to publicly counter Kerry on The Dick Cavett Show, but there is more to the story. O'Neill was a creation of the Nixon administration, as Joe Klein detailed in the January 5 issue of The New Yorker. Former Nixon special counsel Chuck Colson told Klein that Kerry was an "articulate" and "credible leader" of those veterans calling for an end to the Vietnam War and therefore "an immediate target of the Nixon Administration." As such, the Nixon administration found it necessary to "create a counterfoil" to Kerry. Colson recounted, "We found a vet named John O'Neill and formed a group called Vietnam Veterans for a Just Peace.

"We had O'Neill meet the President, and we did everything we could do to boost his group." Articles from the April 21 Houston Chronicle and the June 17, 2003, Boston Globe confirm close ties between O'Neill and the Nixon administration.

Beyond his role in the Nixon administration's strategy to undermine Kerry in the 1970s, O'Neill is also connected to Supreme Court Justice William Rehnquist (a Nixon appointee) and to former President George H.W. Bush, according to Houston Chronicle articles from March 31 and April 21. In the late 1970s, O'Neill clerked for Rehnquist; in 1990, according to an October 7, 1991, report by Texas Lawyer, the former President Bush considered O'Neill for a federal judgeship vacancy.

SNIP...

Nixon's secret tapes captured him fretting with aides about the political threat Kerry posed and plotting to "destroy" him. O'Neill, an articulate young vet who had criticized Kerry's anti-war speeches, was invited to the White House in 1971 and encouraged to debate Kerry.

"Give it to him, give it to him," Nixon told O'Neill.

CONTINUED...

http://nashville.craigslist.org/pol/37422300.html

A couple of resources from which to draw inspiration and indignation:

http://veteransforkerry.home.att.net/following__are_the_facts_surroun.htm

http://www.democrats.com/display.cfm?id=335

Sgt. Pepper at play:



Hey Rehnquist: FUCK YOU!

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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-04 10:04 AM
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That answers my question about Cybercast News Service
Bozell's MRC news outlet huh? Thanks I found an article on their site a while back and couldn't figure out who or what they were-The "New York Sun" was recently restarted (last published in the 50's) and I heard Hannity reading a whole article from that paper so I looked it up-RW rag another bullhorn of misinformation.
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KC21304 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-04 10:11 AM
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26. That figures. O'Neill has been promised that judgeship
in Bush's second administration.
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vetwife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-05-04 01:25 AM
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39. If that be true..throw it out there !
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AngryAmish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-04 10:00 AM
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18. I'm a drunk
And I resent being compared to O'Neil.
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vetwife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-04 10:04 AM
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22. You are not trashing Kerry..Sorry......
If you are a drunk, at least you keep it home and not out there keeping us stuck with the same drunk we have. Did not mean to step on any drunks toes. I am partisian against drunks since I was once married to a real mean one ! Got the scars to prove it. Not all drunks are created equal. Sorry.
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AngryAmish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-04 10:06 AM
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23. I was just having some fun
Absolutely no offense taken at all.
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KC21304 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-04 10:04 AM
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21. Have you seen the tapes of him debating Kerry on Dick Cavett?
Edited on Wed Aug-04-04 10:06 AM by Kerryfan
And he got introduced at the 72 convention. NBC's John Kerry Bringing the War Home has great footage of O'Neill and also you can hear the tapes of Nixon, Colson and even Kissinger plotting against Kerry and praising this clean cut O'Neill. This was aired a lot last week but I don't know if they are going to do it again. Most of it is very good.

Kerry took care of him pretty well in the Cavett debate. C-span ran it several months ago and I'm sure they will again.
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-04 10:09 AM
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24. Short clip of Kerry and O'Neill on Cavett
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bossfish Donating Member (789 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-04 03:24 PM
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34. Love O'Neill's Good Humor man suit!
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vetwife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-04 10:09 AM
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25. Yep..See my husband was in Nam and he says Kerry speaks the
truth. O'Neill is just a liar. He said that Kerry just told it as it was. The Search and Destroy on orders, and the pillage,torture was all true. Not all participated but many did. Kerry exposed what was happening and he will go up against anybody who says Kerry is lying.
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-04 10:13 AM
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28. Kerry's testimony April 22, 1971
http://www.nationalreview.com/document/kerry200404231047.asp
Notice that he doesn't say HE raped, tortured, etc. he says that 150 vets told stories of it in Detroit. He was just reported on what they had tesitified to. He did say that he took part in free fire zones, etc. but that he was under orders (at least the 50 cal part at the end).
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-04 10:29 AM
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29. 'Nuff said, this sez it all
Desperate to denigrate John Kerry's war record, Republicans have trotted out a "nonpartisan" Navy Vietnam vet -- who was a protege of Nixon dirty trickster Charles Colson and whose law firm is closely tied to the Bush White House.
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Carni Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-04 10:36 AM
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30. never mind
Edited on Wed Aug-04-04 11:06 AM by Carni
There are two O'neills this isn't the same one
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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-04 11:42 AM
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32. Drag every putrid skeleton
out of this Arschloch's closet, on stage, front and center.
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-05-04 12:30 AM
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35. He's a fellow of the ENRON Institute...
...meaning some of the ill-gotten loot ended up going to his law firm's coffers. That's nice. Very Republican of them.

http://www.disinfopedia.org/wiki.phtml?title=John_E._O'Neill&printable=yes
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