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nosmokes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-04 04:01 PM
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another voting scam alert!
this was posted by a friend on another board, passing it along so we can get the word out. ssh
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a friend of mine from Missouri sent me this & asked that i alert the world (alerting the world is my second job).
yr pal,
<xxxx>

Dear friends,

I want to warn you about a new kind of voter fraud we learned about the hard way yesterday. Most of you know my son Joseph. When my family went to the polls to vote, Ben and I were able to, but Joseph, who had been on the rolls and voted in the last election, was unable to because his name did not appear on the voter registration rolls for our precinct. At the time this happened, one other man, a regular all the poll workers recognized, also found he was off the rolls. He left before we finished trying to clear it up and before we could offer him a ride downtown to the Election Commission, where we went next.

They were swamped, but we waited. It turned out that Joseph had been reregistered at a new address in another precinct by someone who knew his birthdate and the last four digits of his SS#. Joseph was concerned about identity theft, but the director of elections assured him it was simple voter fraud. She was seeing a lot of it. She said organizations pay people to reregister voters to another precinct. When he asked how they could have his personal information, she said it was because organizations could and did buy the rolls and that info was on them.

This is a nearly flawless scheme. No one is thrown off the rolls, so no red flags in the system go up. But when you're moved to another precinct on the rolls without your knowledge, the only way you can vote is to go down to the central office and wait to have it taken care of individually.

We don't think it's any coincidence that we live in a predominantly African American, overwhelmingly Democratic precinct. Last night at an event at the Kerry headquarters in town, I spoke with a woman who had three friends at work all suddenly gone from the rolls of their normal polling place. All live in different mostly black, strongly Democratic precincts. None of them went downtown. All had to go on to work. Look at November and see what we're facing.

We need to get the word out and encourage people to check their voter registration address before the elections or vote ahead of time by absentee ballot (where the discrepancy will show up before the election and can be fixed).
Protect your right to vote.
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MsUnderstood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-04 04:04 PM
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1. WAIT A MINUTE
Why is your area using SSN (or the last 4 digits) to identify this person and WHY would they sell that to people?

That is crazy and 1/2 way to identity theft.
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harmonyguy Donating Member (589 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-04 04:26 PM
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6. Some counties in Missouri ask for ....
Edited on Wed Aug-04-04 04:28 PM by harmonyguy
last 4 digits of SSN plus DL number.

More like 3/4 of the way to identity theft.

I wonder if the address that he was moved to is real and what happened to the confirmation card that gets mailed out 7 days after it's processed?

HG

(edit to clarify title. Not all Missouri counties ask for DL number)
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libhill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-04 04:06 PM
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2. I should be surprised
but I'm not. The repukes know the only way they can win is to cheat. People are tired of their crap.
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stellanoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-04 04:10 PM
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3. dollars to doughnuts,. . .
after failing to secure a plurality of votes through BBV (thanks to tireless efforts by droves of activists), this smells like a most Rovian plan B.

Consider spreading at least the last paragraph of the original post, far and wide, especially in predominantly Black urban areas of swing states.

If anyone happens to have any contacts at ACT (Vote for Change), their upcoming concerts would be a great vehicle for spreading the word.
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prodigal_green Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-04 04:16 PM
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4. Time for a Million Voter March!
Sheesh! Why do they insist on disenfranchising the black voter?!!

These are FEDERAL crimes!!
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jedicord Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-04 04:18 PM
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5. When I voted in the 2000 Selection
my voter registration card told me to go to Precinct ___. So I went there. I wasn't on their rolls, they told me that my card indicated the wrong Precinct #, that I should go to such and such other one. So I went there. They told me I wasn't on their rolls either, to go to another one. So I went there. Finally, I was able to vote.

Needless to say, I'm a registered Democrat. Needless to say, if I wasn't so determined to vote I would have given up after the second voting place.
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nosmokes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-04 08:58 PM
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7. kick for the evening crowd
:kick:
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