As a small businessman,I find the claims of Bush,Cheney and

[Veggie Meathead]

Rumsfeld that they are businessmen totally bogus.They are people who have used their government and/or family connections to avoid risks that normal businesses have to take and get sweetheart deals.All their talk about free enterprise is hollow.

Bush, for example, is the perfect example of a know nothing who has become a multimillionaire using just his family name.In the process of running two of his oil related companies into the ground,he has also defrauded his investors.Every single thing he has touched in business,like everything else he does as President, has turned to shit.

Cheney takes up where Bush leaves off.His role as a swindler and no bid contractor now spans the globe.As the CEO of Halliburton, a job he landed because of his previous job as Deefense Secretary,he has brought enormous contracts for Halliburton.While enriching himself, he has also denied pensions for the employees of Halliburton.He has also wriggled out of any liability in asbestos related claims when Halliburton purchased Dresser.And this is a man who claims his riches have nothing to do with governement!

What can one say about the third man in this evil triad,Rumsfeld.As the CEO of Searle, he managed to squelch a grand jury investigation of the health problems associated with Nutrasweet by simply hiring away the attorney on the grand jury probe. After the grand jury died from Rumsfeld's shenanigans, he unloaded the Nutrasweet business on Monsanto on whose board he used to sit,for a cool 600 million dollars,thus becoming a multimillionaire.

Knowing these evildoers' past histories,one can see why they have so little respect for our laws and why they do not care about anyone but themselves.

[charlyvi]

1. Bravo Veggie Meathead

I think people in the business world are finally waking up. Bush* is NOT good for business. Re the 200 CEO's that signed a statement saying they are for K/E. If people don't have money, they can't buy anything--I'm and English/Philosophy major and can figure that out. Rock On!

[pinto]

2. remember that when the RNC says "results count" or "look at the record"

Let's look at the results!
Let's look at the record!

We have nothing to fear but smear.

They have nothing to fear but the truth.

[cthrumatrix]

3. good observation....why does the media not bring up these differences?

[spanone]

4. I agree 100%. That's why they Hate Clinton Soo Much.

Clinton WAS a self-made man.

[Ready4Change]

5. Bush has been a businessman. A very, very bad one.

How many oil companies was he given the reins of, and then drove them into the ground? 2? 3?

[IdaBriggs]

Five

It was FIVE oil companies he bankrupted. If you get a chance, read Molly Ivins "Shrub" for a TERRIFYING history. :) Best, Ida

[Ready4Change]

8. FIVE ?!?

:wtf: (Not a smilie I use lightly)

Good Lord! He wrecks businesses the way other spoiled rich kids wreck CARS!

[IdaBriggs]

12. Yes, Five, But...

You must remember they were basically thinly veiled bribes for his father. Its blatantly illegal to give money to sitting Presidents and Vice-Presidents before being put in a position to regulate your own industry, but its not illegal to "invest" in their children's losing businesses....

[IdaBriggs]

6. Five

It was FIVE oil companies he bankrupted. If you get a chance, read Molly Ivins "Shrub" for a TERRIFYING history. :) Best, Ida

[IdaBriggs]

7. Sorry for the Double Post!

Apparently I hit the "Post" button twice, and it loaded twice! I also wanted to say I agreed with the original poster. :) Ida

[shraby]

9. Read the Plame Indictments thread #16

there is a lotta good info on these losers.

[Jacobin]

10. Cheney is NOT a businessman. He's a ROBBER BARON

Check out this EXCELLENT analysis of how he stole tens of millions as Halliburton's Thief Executive Officer on Billman:

http://www.billmon.org/

snip:

Where Was Dick?

The Securities and Exchange Commission gave Vice President Cheney a nice campaign present yesterday, in the form of a tidy little settlement of its securities fraud charges against Halliburton - charges that might have proven extremely embarrassing to the company's former CEO if the SEC had showed the same relentless dedication to its job that former special counsel Kenneth Starr showed to his.

You may remember the case - it received a few seconds of media coverage back in the summer of 2002, when the subject of corporate crime was a little harder for the mainstream media to ignore than it is at present.

snip

Apparently, we're expected to believe that Halliburton's CEO was completely ignorant of an accounting change so significant it turned a quarterly loss in one of the company's two main operating division into a gain - even though, as we shall see, the switch also may have played a crucial role in Cheney's most important business achievement (if that's the right word), the merger with Dresser.

Which is true enough. There is, however, one signature above the CFO's on the company's 1998 report:




This stuff is absolutely WHITE HOT. He is a criminal and a thief and he is getting away with grand larceny.

I won't even ask where the media is. It's collective head is so far up its ass it couldn't tell the time of day.

[Veggie Meathead]

11. While he was getting basic training in business fraud in this country,

he is also implicated in bribing officials in Nigeria on behalf of
Halliburton.He is truly an international, equal opportunity swindler.