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Union Thug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-04 11:04 PM
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Repuke James L Hart and Eugenics...
The Republicans are finally flocking home to their hateful base...

http://news.independent.co.uk/world/americas/story.jsp?story=547684

The Republican congressional candidate James L Hart has acknowledged that he is an unapologetic supporter of eugenics, the fake science that resulted in thousands of people being sterilised in an attempt to purify the white race.

He believes the country will look "like one big Detroit" - which has a large African-American population - if it doesn't eliminate welfare payments and immigration. He believes that if blacks were integrated centuries ago, the automobile would never have been invented.

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Sugarbleus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-04 11:07 PM
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1. Say what!!!??? Gotta go check this out.
Edited on Wed Aug-04-04 11:08 PM by Sugarbleus
Surely this guy can't win anything...say it isn't so.....

:nuke:


edit for typo
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WMliberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-04 11:08 PM
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2. wow, what district does he represent?
i don't think that even my Eagle Forum approved congressman could top that one. btw, send a link to donate to whoever is opposing this douche
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Kathy in Cambridge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-04 11:10 PM
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3. Vote in this wackjob's poll
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JoeMemphis Donating Member (469 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-04 11:14 PM
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4. Hart will likely be the GOP nominee against John Tanner (D-TN)
Edited on Wed Aug-04-04 11:15 PM by JoeMemphis
Hart is the only candidate who filed nominating petitions for the 8th Congressional District. The seat is presently held by Representative John Tanner (D-TN).

After the filing, the GOP leaders realized that they made a huge mistake not recruiting anyone for the GOP primary, even though Tanner will win in a landslide regardless of whom the GOP nominates. Right now, the GOP is hoping that a write-in candidate, Dennis Bertrand, will get enough write-in votes in the primary tomorrow to defeat Hart, who will be the sole name on the GOP primary ballot for this race.
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coloradodem2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-04 11:21 PM
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5. I hope that Hart gets thrashed by Tanner.
IT would be scary if this guy got to hold an elected office.
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Union Thug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-04 11:36 PM
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6. I wonder what Freeperville thinks of this guy?
I mean, he seems to be a perfect match for the freeptards and michael savages of the world. I say we do all we can to expose this guy to the world, and always always always make sure he wears his Republican association clearly.
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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-04 11:37 PM
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7. And this appears on a site dedicated to the topic of...
...biotechnology for the new century.

<link> http://www.biotechcentury.com/articles/WhatsHot/HowtheUSmanufacturedeugenicsfortheNazis.shtml


How the US manufactured eugenics for the Nazis


Nigel M. de S. Cameron
BioWorld.9.03
"Unfinished Business"

The biggest idea of the 21st century – mark my words! – will be a dated neologism from the 20th. Eugenics is set for a come-back and will speak the mother of all battles for the human race.

That’s why Edwin Black’s new book The War against the Weak: Eugenics and America’s Campaign to Create a Master Race (New York: Four Walls, 2003) is so timely, taking us back in depressing detail to the vast and enormously popular eugenics industry that caught the diseased imagination of the United States in the first part of the last century. Its epigram - and epitaph - could be Justice Oliver Wendell Holmes’ notorious words, graven on the hearts of unnumbered men, women and children whose lives were blighted by the eugenics cause, in the Supreme Court decided Buck v. Bell: “Three generations of imbeciles is enough.”

Carrie Buck’s sad story is well known, immortalized in this judgment which has been compared to Dred Scott in its infamy. We know also that Holmes, the most distinguished jurist of his generation, was that same Holmes who speech on “The Path of the Law” was a manifesto for positivism and the idea that law is just what the victors declare it to be, a nightmare that could hardly be better illustrated than in the eugenics tale that Edwin Black lays out.

I took his large book away to read on vacation, and was startled on my return to look again at that fine 60s movie on the trial of the Nazi doctors, Judgment at Nuremberg, which is focused chiefly on the Nazi sterilization program - and see the brilliant defense offered by their counsel who argued over and over that they had done nothing that had not been done before in the United States; that the sterilization law passed early in the Hitler regime (and lauded, as Black notes, by American eugenicists) was almost a mirror of the model legislation that had been enacted in state after state, had led to tens of thousands of forcible sterilizations of US citizens, and had been upheld in the Supreme Court. And then the Nazi counsel quotes Justice Holmes at the American judges who are weighing the fate of his clients.

Black goes much further. He chronicles the history of eugenics in the US such as the Eugenics Record Office, based at Cold Spring Harbor and purely private despite its name, which accumulated huge quantities of “eugenic” records of unconsenting individuals from public institutions. He demonstrates US leadership in the worldwide movement, and the support of American statesmen for the project – such that the US Secretary of State sent out the invitations to the first worldwide eugenics conferences. And he sets out in damning detail the intricate linkages between foundations such as Rockefeller and the eugenics research of the Nazis themselves – such that just before the outbreak of war Josef Mengele’s university boss is still supported by American foundation money.

Eugenics is an idea whose time seemed to have come in the early 20th century. But since the Nazis liked it and took its to its logical conclusion, it soon disappeared from respectable company. Black notes that “eugenics” quickly morphed into “genetics,” and he looks ahead to “newgenics” as the Carrie Buck mindset makes a comeback in the biotech age.

Read the book as, one hundred years later, we devise our strategy for the next round in the “war against the weak.” Because we can be quite sure that the “Master Race” ideology, sophisticated in its science and rhetoric beyond the dreams of Holmes and Hitler, is on its way.
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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-05-04 12:21 AM
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9. This trend was spotted in George W Bush's State of the Union...
...speech earlier this year.

Published on Thursday, January 22, 2004 by CommonDreams.org
No Child's Behind Left - The New Educational Eugenics in George Bush's State of the Union
by Greg Palast

Go ahead, George, and lie to me. Lie to my dog. Lie to my sister. But don't you ever lie to my kids.

Deep into your State of the Siege lecture last night, long after sensible adults had turned off the tube or kicked in the screen, you came after our children. "By passing the No Child Left Behind Act," you said, "We are regularly testing every child ... and making sure they have better options when schools are not performing."

You said it ... and then that little tongue came out; that weird way you stick your tongue out between your lips like the little kid who knows he's fibbing. Like a snake licking a rat. I saw that snakey tongue dart out and I thought, "He knows."

And what you know, Mr. Bush, is this: you've ordered this testing to hunt down, identify and target for destruction the hopes of millions of children you find too expensive, too heavy a burden, to educate.

Here's how No Child Left Behind and your tests work in the classrooms of Houston and Chicago. Millions of 8 year olds are given lists of words and phrases. They try to read. Then they are graded, like USDA beef: some prime, some OK, many failed.

Once the kids are stamped and sorted, the parents of the marked children ask you to fulfill your tantalizing promise to "make sure they have better options when schools are not performing."

But there is no "better option," is there, Mr. Bush? Where's the money for the better schools to take in the kids getting crushed in cash-poor districts? Where's the open door to the suburban campuses with the big green lawns for the dark kids with the test-score mark of Cain?

And if I bring up the race of the kids with the low scores, don't get all snippy with me, telling me your program is color blind. We know the color of the kids left behind, and it's not the color of the kids you went to school with at Philips Andover Academy.

You know and I know the testing is a con. There is no "better option" at the other end. The cash went to eliminate the inheritance tax, that special program to give every millionaire's son another million.

But you'll tell me, you took tests as a youth. I know you did. And you scored on the Air Guard flight test 25 out of 100, one point above too dumb to fly. But you zoomed past the other would-be flyboys. They were stamped, "Ready for 'Nam."

And you took a test to get into Yale. And though your pet rock scored a wee bit higher than you, your grandpa on the Yale board provided the "better option" which got you in.

Here in New York City, your educational Taliban, led by Republican Mayor Michael Bloomberg, has issued an edict to test the third-graders. Winnow out the chaff - the kids stamped 'failed' - and throw them back, exactly where they started, to repeat the same failed program another year. The ugly little irony is this: the core of No Child Left Behind is that failing children will be left behind another year. And another year and another year.

You know and I know that this is not an educational opportunity program - because you offer no opportunities, no hope, no plan, no funding. Rather, it is the new Republican social Darwinism, educational eugenics: identify the nation's loser-class early on. Trap them, then train them cheap.

No Child Left Behind is of one piece with the tax cuts for the rich, the energy laws for the insiders, the oil wars for the well-off. Someone has to care for the privileged. No society can have winners without lots and lots of losers.

And so we have No Child Left Behind - to provide the new worker drones that will clean the toilets at the Yale Alumni Club, punch the cash registers color-coded for illiterates, and pamper the winner-class on the higher floors of the new economic order.

Greg Palast is author of, "The Best Democracy Money Can Buy," which has returned this week to the New York Times bestseller list. View Palast's writings for Harper's, The Guardian (UK) and BBC television at www.GregPalast.com.


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Djinn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-04 11:41 PM
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8. too, too weird
how can someone espousing a completely discredited "science" like eugenics be the candidate for a major party ANYWHERE in the developed world??? :scared:

can someone please tell me this is a joke - the fat that this guy can be endorsed by the the Republican party should surely destroy any credibility they have.

Bloody hell our own nutjob Pauline Hanson was disendorsed (by the conservatives) for saying we should limit asian immigration and that there shouldn't be specific welfare directed towards aboriginal communities, she was about a crazy as we get but even she wouldn't have spouted eugenics, I could possibly be wrong there but then she was also turfed out of office at the next election
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JoeMemphis Donating Member (469 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-05-04 08:25 AM
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10. The GOP organizations in TN have denounced Hart -- will GOP voters?
Edited on Thu Aug-05-04 08:25 AM by JoeMemphis
can someone please tell me this is a joke - the fat that this guy can be endorsed by the the Republican party should surely destroy any credibility they have.

Actually, Hart has been denounced publicly by various county GOP organizations and the TN GOP as well. Unfortunately, they didn't think about that before the filing deadline for this race, so they're feverishly trying to get a write-in candidate to win the primary.

The GOP organizations oppose Hart. It will be interesting to see whether GOP voters will reject Hart at the polls.
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Djinn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-05-04 06:04 PM
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13. I'm not to au fait with the US system
does this mean he will be running as a Republican if they can't get someone else in - can't they just kick him out of the party?
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Plaid Adder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-05-04 08:34 AM
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11. A handy eugenics FAQ I put together years ago
Here's the URL:

http://www.plaidder.com/eugen.htm

The scary thing is that this dates from the mid-90s, and this rhetoric was circulating then in muted, sanitized form. I guess they've decided that sanitization is no longer necessary.

:scared:

The Plaid Adder
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cthrumatrix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-05-04 08:51 AM
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12. this is why FACTS are damaging to repugs...go back to fear.
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