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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-04 11:08 PM
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Alan Keyes is a fraud thread
Edited on Wed Aug-04-04 11:14 PM by Joanne98
Since Alan is thinking about running against Obama. It's only fitting that a "scum bag" thread be started to remind him what he's in for.

Paid himself $100,000 per year out of campaign funds
- Those who know him best like him least (former campaign workers)
- All talk, no action
- Still owes money for his 1992 senate campaign, denies responsibility
- Quotes
- Sources


QUOTES:
"They call me Doctor Dream and the doctor is in" -- Alan Keyes, introducing his radio show every day.

"I personally do not owe the debt that was owed by the campaign." -- Alan Keyes

"When he decided to use campaign funds for his salary, that discouraged a lot of Republicans, and even Maryland voters." -- Maryland Republican Party Chair Joyce Lyons Terhes

"That money was for working eight to twelve hour days ... it was not a welfare check." -- Alan Keyes


Keyes paid himself $100,000 per year out of campaign funds.
Keyes' 1992 Senate campaign was hurt badly when the press revealed he was paying himself a huge amount out of campaign funds. This is technically legal but rare and sleazy. We don't know of any other candidates for president who have ever paid themselves out of campaign funds from any campaign they've been in.
His staff urged him to stop but he refused. Keyes now says, "I don't think it will be necessary this time 'round."

More generally, Keyes knows that his doomed presidential campaigns can raise his profile and help his career as a public speaker and radio personality. Jesse Jackson and Pat Buchanan have pursued this strategy for years. According to Time Magazine, Keyes' 1996 campaign doubled his speaking fee from $7,500 to $15,000 per speech.


All talk, no action
Keyes has always been a professional talker - first as an academic, then a diplomat, and now as a candidate and talk show host.

Even as a diplomat, his biggest jobs were opposing sanctions on South Africa as one of many Assistant Secretaries of State under Reagan - some feel his career was based on being Reagan's token black willing to defend the apartheid regime - and as Ambassador to the United Nations Economic and Social Council, a post requiring no actual diplomacy, just lots of speeches. It seems plenty hard for governors to adjust to running the federal government, so the odds that Keyes could wing it are very low. Basically, he's the Republican Jesse Jackson.


Former campaign workers don't support him
Reporter Andy Lamy asked several staffers from his 1992 campaign if they supported his run for president. Susan Saum-Wicklein, Keyes's 1992 campaign manager, said "He's doing what?" "Absolutely not," said Ed Goetz, Keyes's 1992 pollster. "There are much, much better candidates." Sylvia Pearson, of Keyes 1992 direct mail firm, said it is "very safe to say" that she won't be a supporter. Maryland Republican Party Chair Joyce Lyons Terhes said "I don't see this campaign as a Maryland-based campaign."


http://www.realchange.org/keyes.htm

Council for National Policy

Council for National Policy


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"The Right's quiet and heady answer to the Left's Council on Foreign Relations": "Vast, Right-Wing Cabal? Meet the Most Powerful Conservative Group You've Never Heard Of" <1>
"Washington, May 2, <2002> (ABCNews.com) — When Steve Baldwin, the executive director of an organization with the stale-as-old-bread name of the Council for National Policy, boasts that 'we control everything in the world,' he is only half-kidding.

"Half-kidding, because the council doesn't really control the world. The staff of about eight, working in a modern office building in Fairfax, Va., isn't even enough for a real full-court basketball game. But also half-serious because the council has deservedly attained the reputation for conceiving and promoting the ideas of many who in fact do want to control everything in the world.

"For many liberals, the 22-year-old council is very dangerous and dangerously secretive, and has fueled conspiratorial antipathy. The group wants to be the conservative version of the Council on Foreign Relations, but to some, CNP members — among the brightest lights of the hard right — are up to no good. The CNP meets this weekend at a Washington location known to fewer insiders than the identity of the vice president's undisclosed chunk of bedrock.

"Look for them if you're at a ritzy hotel in Tyson's Corner, Va.

"Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas is the headliner. White House counsel Alberto Gonzales will speak, as will Timothy Goeglein, deputy director of the White House Office of Public Liaison. There have been no public announcements, and there won't be. The 500 or so members will hear private, unvarnished presentations.

"White House spokeswoman Anne Womack said Gonzales' remarks would not be released. The CNP's bylaws keep out the press and prevent disclosure of the transcribed proceedings — unless all the speakers give their assent. Few do.

"In a 2000 filing with the Internal Revenue Service, the CNP says it holds 'educational conferences and seminars for national leaders in the field of business, government, religion and academia.' It says it produces a weekly newsletter keeping members abreast of developments, and a biyearly collection of speeches. Executive Director Morton Blackwell was paid a little more than $70,000. The organization took in more than $732,000.

"Baldwin said he doesn't get many calls from the press. But he's happy to answer some basic questions.

"Of the group's reputation, he said, 'There's a lot of stuff out there claiming we're a lot more than we are.'

"What they are — or rather, what sway they hold — is a source of some dispute.

"In 1999, candidate George Walker Bush spoke before a closed-press CNP session in San Antonio. His speech, contemporaneously described as a typical mid-campaign ministration to conservatives, was recorded on audio tape.

"Depending on whose account you believe, Bush promised to appoint only anti-abortion-rights judges to the Supreme Court, or he stuck to his campaign strict constructionist phrase. Or he took a tough stance against gays and lesbians, or maybe he didn't.



http://www.disinfopedia.org/wiki.phtml?title=Council_for_National_Policy

And he's EVIL too.........


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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-04 11:23 PM
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1. Alan Keyes is a Straussian
Edited on Wed Aug-04-04 11:26 PM by Joanne98
Indeed, author Shadia B. Drury, in her 1997 book, Leo Strauss and the American Right, named the following prominent Washington players as among Strauss' protégés: Paul Wolfowitz; Supreme Court Justic Clarence Thomas; Judge Robert Bork; neo-con propagandist and former Dan Quayle chief of staff, William Kristol; former Secretary of Education William Bennett; the National Review publisher William F. Buckley; former Reagan Administration official Alan Keyes; current White House bio-ethics advisor Francis Fukuyama; Attorney General John Ashcroft; and William Galston, former Clinton Administration domestic policy advisor, and co-author, with Elaine Kamark, of the Joe Lieberman-led Democratic Leadership Council's policy blueprint.

Earlier Strauss allies and protégés in launching the post-World War II neo-conservative movement were Irving Kristol, Norman Podhoretz, Samuel Huntington, Seymour Martin Lipset, Daniel Bell, Jeane Kirkpatrick, and James Q. Wilson.

Nobody Here But Us Fascists
A review of Leo Strauss' career reveals why the label "Straussian" carries some very filthy implications. Although nominally a Jewish refugee from Nazi Germany (he actually left for a better position abroad, on the warm recommendation of Nazi jurist Carl Schmitt), Strauss was an unabashed proponent of the three most notorious shapers of the Nazi philosophy: Friedrich Nietzsche, Martin Heidegger, and Carl Schmitt. Recent biographies have revealed the depth of Heidegger's enthusiasm for Hitler and Nazism, while he served as the Chancellor of Freiburg University, throughout the epoch of National Socialism, and was the leader of a Nietzschean revival. Carl Schmitt, the leading Nazi philosopher of law, was personally responsible, in 1934, for arranging a Rockefeller Foundation scholarship for Strauss, which enabled him to leave Germany, to study in England and France, before coming to the United States to teach at the New School for Social Research, and then, the University of Chicago. Strauss, in his long academic career, never abandoned his fealty to Nietzsche, Heidegger, and Schmitt.

The hallmark of Strauss' approach to philosophy was his hatred of the modern world, his belief in a totalitarian system, run by "philosophers," who rejected all universal principles of natural law, but saw their mission as absolute rulers, who lied and deceived a foolish "populist" mass, and used both religion and politics as a means of disseminating myths that kept the general population in clueless servitude. For Strauss and all of his protégés (Strauss personally had 100 Ph.D. students, and the "Straussians" now dominate most university political science and philosophy departments), the greatest object of hatred was the United States itself, which they viewed as nothing better than a weak, pathetic replay of "liberal democratic" Weimar Germany.

which means he's a Nazi/Facist and a big racist......

http://www.larouchepub.com/other/2003/3011profile_strauss.html

BRING IT ON ALAN!!!!!!! I wonder if the "librul" media will report this stuff? Hell no.......

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Veggie Meathead Donating Member (999 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-04 11:32 PM
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2. What I cannot understand is why the media do not subject PNAC
and Straussian philosophy to crtical analysis and expose some of the proponents and their dangerous ideas?
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-04 11:47 PM
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4. Really
I can't understand why the media just sits there and does nothing for the most part. Can you imagine how screwed we be without the internet?
I hope he does run. We need a reason to bring out this Leo Strauss outrage. All the neo-cons are into this. It's horrible....
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Lerkfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-04 11:54 PM
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5. the christian science monitor has in the past...
//not sure if its still up, but they had a great web multimedia dossier on the neocons.
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-04 11:41 PM
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3. Strauss was a disciple of Schmitt nazi philosopher of law....
Edited on Wed Aug-04-04 11:48 PM by Joanne98
To understand what is distinctive about today's Republican Party, you first need to know about an obscure and very conservative German political philosopher. His name, however, is not Leo Strauss, who has been widely cited as the intellectual guru of the Bush administration. It belongs, instead, to a lesser known, but in many ways more important, thinker named Carl Schmitt.

Strauss and Schmitt were once close professionally; Schmitt supported Strauss's application for a Rockefeller Foundation fellowship to Paris in 1932, the same year in which Strauss published a review of Schmitt's most important book, The Concept of the Political. Their paths later diverged. Strauss, a Jew, left Germany for good and eventually settled in Chicago, where he inspired generations of students, one of whom, Allan Bloom, in turn inspired Saul Bellow's Ravelstein. Schmitt, a devout Catholic who had written a number of well-regarded books -- including Political Theology (1922), The Crisis of Parliamentary Democracy (1923), and Political Romanticism (first printed in 1919) -- joined the Nazi Party in 1933, survived World War II with his reputation relatively unscathed, and witnessed a revival of interest in his work, from both the left and the right, before his death in 1985 at the age of 96.

Given Schmitt's strident anti-Semitism and unambiguous Nazi commitments, the left's continuing fascination with him is difficult to comprehend. Yet as Jan-Werner Müller, a fellow at All Soul's College, Oxford, points out in his recently published A Dangerous Mind

http://chronicle.com/free/v50/i30/30b01601.htm
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-05-04 12:06 AM
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6. And get this, Straussians are ATHEISTS
Oh please run Alan PLEEEEEEEZZZZZZZZZEEEEEEEE

The Atheists in the White House, July 30, 2004
Reviewer: M. A. Plus "Advanced Atheist" (Mayer, Arizona) - See all my reviews


I have a somewhat different take on this book than the other reviewers. I am struck by the idea that the Straussians neoconservatives, who have seized strategic positions in the U.S. Government and the Republican Party, fundamentally agree with the Secular Humanists about the nature of religion (i.e., that there's no god out there to rapture us away, much less lecture us about right and wrong). They just disagree with the Humanists about the advisability of telling ordinary people the truth, pretending instead that increasingly absurd and delusional christian beliefs like the ones promoted by the Left Behind novels are worthy of respect, as long as christians who hold such fantasies vote Republican. (By contrast, UFO cultists who promote similar scenarios about mass alien abductions are ridiculed.) In other words, Neocons view religion as a useful tool for keeping the rabble in line, including the unsophisticated religious politicians who support their agenda.

I find this crypto-Atheism contemptible, though also complimentary in a back-handed way. Intelligent people in many times and places have arrived at Atheism by following their own inquiries into the nature of reality. Strauss and his followers just add further support to the legitimacy of the Atheist discovery, though their systematic dishonesty about it has led to harmful consequences in the real world. The increasingly Atheistic populations of Western Europe, where even American christians readily visit for vacation, show that advanced societies can function well without religion, empirically falsifying the Straussian prejudice that the sheep need superstitions while their shepherds can handle Atheism. --This text refers to the Hardcover edition


CAN YOU SEE THE LOOK ON THE FUNDIE'S FACES WHEN THEY FIND OUT ALAN DOESN'T BELIEVE IN GAWD........ :)

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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-05-04 12:16 AM
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7. Yeah, Wolfie came from University of Chicago. Their Business School
is rife with neo-hagelians/nazis etc.

I wonder what Keyes' diss at Harvard was about?
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genius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-05-04 12:19 AM
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8. Isn't he that anti-black black guy?
He could cost us some African-American votes.
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CaTeacher Donating Member (983 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-05-04 12:54 AM
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9. this guy talks really really crazy.
but--he may still a few votes--I heard him once (he was trying to run for president) and he is actually a pretty good speaker. But he is so far off base politically, that it is hard to imagine many people listening to his ideas. He is a wild-wacky right winger.
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TSIAS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-05-04 12:57 AM
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10. Will he get the Michael Moore endorsement this time?
Just askin.

I hate the guy's politics, but I had to laugh when he jumped into that moshpit. I loved it even better when Steve Forbes or Gary Bauer brought it up in a Republican debate.
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nickgutierrez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-05-04 01:02 AM
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11. No matter who they get...
Obama is walking away with that seat. The Illinois GOP would do well to roll over on this one, so that nobody ends up losing by a 70-30 margin or something along those lines.
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Gore1FL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-05-04 01:39 AM
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12. Does anyone have the quote from 2000 re: Hillary?
he blasted her for changing states and running for Senate.
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