John McCain is a conflicted fraud of a man!

[trumad]

WOW... So he condemns the ad put out by the Swift boat Idiots against JK and produced by the same people that made the attack ads against him in 2000 but yet he pretends that Rove and Bush might not be part of the smear campaign. Then in his condemnation of the ad he then states: "I think George Bush served honorably in the Texas Air National Guard during the Vietnam War."

No he didn't John and you fucking know it! While you whittled away in a Hanoi prison, You're good er Moral buddy Dubya was sniffing lines and chasing poon while AWOL from the NG.

John...what happened to you and Colin Powell? I sit here stunned that these two (at one time)decent men would be led down the rabbit hole of crap by a Deserting piece of crap like George W. Bush.

I say shame on you John McCain... Shame on you for campaigning for this cretin and shame on you for your continuing statement that says George W. Bush is a moral man.

[cthrumatrix]

1. ease up.... shrub crossed the line and it brought back what awol

did to him in 2000...I give him credit for stepping up

[trumad]

3. That's my point...

tomorrow he'll be back campaining for Dub and saying what a wonderful leader he is and how he leads with moral clarity.

[Jacobin]

2. He's a fucking wimp

Johnny boy, don't you realize that when those ads are run, that the damage is already done. You can't un-ring a bell. The mouth breathing populace will eat that up and no amount of your wailing will be as effective as the conditioning that such ads do to the populace.

You know EXACTLY how well this shit works, because it happened to you. and you are such a fucking wimpy, no backbone, waistrel that you yap at your master like some mangy poodle and go back on the campaign trail to try to elect a moronic imbecile as president who is completely and utterly incompetent and is a clear and present danger to your country.

Until you DISAVOW your endorsement of Bush* and begin campaigning for Kerry, I will consider you a traitor to your country.

Whiney little disavowals to distance yourself from the muck of the administration WILL NOT get you a passs. YOu are sleeping with whores and you have become one.

Fuck you.

:mad:

[trumad]

4. Thank you

[jackstraw45]

6. Sorry...I disagree with McCain 100% on this but he is NOT a wimp.

Why don't YOU spend years going through the hell he went through to see whether he's a wimp or not.

You and I may not like his politics but John McCain is NOT a wimp or traitor.

Sorry...my opinion.

[trumad]

11. Yes he is....

Number one: He's wimped out of taking Bush on directly for what Bush did to him in 2000 and now what Bush is doing to Kerry in 2004. For McCain to pretend that Rove and Bush might not have anything to do with this ad is flat out disingenuous!

Number two: He's a traitor to allow this Country to be used by the Neo-Cons/Halliburton for their own personal pleasure.. You would think he would have learned from Viet Nam... He didn't learn shit.

[Eurobabe]

15. no he's a politician

but not a wimp...

[trumad]

20. You go after my character

and I go after you.... McCain let Dubya ride right over him... I call that a whimp!

[Jacobin]

17. His actions now are what I am discussing

George Fucking Bush is a clear and present danger to this country. The rest of the world knows it. Our troops are beginning to figure it out. Half of this country knows it.

What, pray tell is John McCain's excuse for not knowing? He is not stupid. He is pathologically loyal to a monster who is destroying our country.

If you count that as "bravery", I would simply have to disagree with you.

It is pathological, masochistic and destructive behaviour to enable the monster in the White House another four years and you know it.

[Surf Cowboy]

5. I used to think he was allright,

but now I just see him as a big pussy. A moral coward. Tough enough not to leave his compatriots to rot in a Vietnam dungeon, but not tough enough to defend himself during the 2000 primary season, when BushCo trashed him viciously. Now he's licking their feet. I'd be ashamed if my father ever took shit like that from some asshole like Bush, Cheney, or Rove. It's bad enough that he didn't defend himself when it happened in 2000, but it's even worse that he is now their happy whipping boy.

[Ducks In A Row]

7. the man needs an intervention

[Snoggera]

8. It has to be calculated beforehand

For months, McCain has been saying something to soothe the left, then proclaiming his support for *. Part of the divide and conquer theme? Confuse the left a little with a reasonable, at times, repuke?

Does Kerry really need McCain defending him (a subtle jab at his strength and leadership abilities)?

[unfrigginreal]

9. Yeah, he should just STFU!

Who does he think he is defending Kerry? We sure don't want that. :eyes:

[Snoggera]

12. Having a repuke, and a supporter of *

defend Kerry sends, to some, a subtle question regarding Kerry's ability to defend himself, and can be expanded to correlate with the theme that Repukes are strong, dems are weak.

It is subtle, but I believe it is there, and that is why I think McCain should just shut the fuck up.

[unfrigginreal]

18. Rightly or wrongly, McCain is seen as more of an independent...

than a partisan Republican. His speaking out about a dirty ad against Kerry will only reinforce the belief of many that Bush plays dirty politics. If anyone would know about that, it's McCain. Don't see how this can be anything but a plus for Kerry.

[Snoggera]

19. I hope so

but tend to look at topics from the underbelly of the beast these days.

[trumad]

13. STFU

about Dubya's moral clarity... How about that?

[blm]

10. You don't know what Bushies have on him or his family.

They are capable of anything. They probably had McCain drugged and took pics of him with a young boy, they are THAT demented and ruthless.

Whenever McCain uses that standard line about Bush in the TANG, he repeats it like an automaton., and I think he does so deliberately. He gives it no more, no less.

[Octafish]

14. Maybe McCain is waiting for post-Bush GOP.

Like you and most of the DUers on this thread, trumad, I agree John McCain is one brave American who was willing to give his life for our country and my benefit. Still, I don't understand why he would support, in any way Gov. Bush unless he had a bigger plan.

Perhaps McCain sees that the unelected moron's in free-fall and McCain doesn't want to get sucked down in the vortex. To do any of the "unifying" the nation will need in the coming years, McCain has to at least seem to remain a loyal Repuke in order to put together the shattered pieces of the party after the crash, as well as contribute to a truly united United States, post-Bush.

[Wapsie B]

16. If he came out and turned on chimpy

I don't believe he'd be taking any plane rides anytime soon.

[Bush was AWOL]

21. McCain is doing more damage to Bushco

by making statements like this he would if he was actually working Kerry's campaign. I honestly don't think McCain wants Bush to win, and he may not be done.