Debunking/refuting the swift boat ad

[asthmaticeog]

Disinfopedia has an article out already (bless 'em!) detailing the shadiness of Swift Boat Veterans for Truth:

http://www.disinfopedia.org/wiki.phtml?title=Swift_Boat_Veterans_for_Truth

Plus -- John Kerrey's military records:
http://www.johnkerry.com/about/john_kerry/military_records.html

(BIG props to Metafilter)

[RodneyCK2]

1. Thanks, I pieced together several yesterday to try and..

debunk this on another forum.

[asthmaticeog]

2. Cool - could you post a link to that thread? n/t

[RodneyCK2]

5. Sure.. I can't find the post from yesterday..

because I can't use the search tool, but the kind people here provided me with several links, mostly from Salon.com. Here you go..

http://www.salon.com/opinion/conason/2004/05/04/swift/index_np.html
http://archive.salon.com/opinion/letters/2004/04/22/purple_mercenary
http://archive.salon.com/news/feature/2004/04/17/kerry_purple
http://www.salon.com/opinion/conason/2004/07/16/swift_boat_veterans/index.html
http://www.snopes.com/politics/kerry/kerry.asp

[RodneyCK2]

7. This is useful as well...

A fellow DUer has a blog and a lot of info on the scum John O'Neil.

Here you go..
http://ascrivenerslament.blogspot.com/

[Killarney]

3. Another debunking resource here

http://www.mattgunn.com/#swiftboat50504

[White Feather]

4. Sen. Kerry's 1969 Fitness Report

One of the dirtbags in the Swift Boat ad is Elliot.

This is the fitness report he wrote in 1969:


"In a combat environment often requiring independent, decisive action LTJG
(Lieutenant Junior Grade) Kerry was unsurpassed. He constantly reviewed tactics
and lessons learned in river operations and applied his experience at every
opportunity. On one occasion while in tactical command of a three boat
operation his units were taken under fire from ambush. LTJG Kerry rapidly
assessed the situation and ordered his units to turn directly into the ambush.
This decision resulted in routing the attackers with several enemy KIAs.

LTJG Kerry emerges as the acknowledged leader in his peer group. His bearing
and appearance are above reproach. He has of his own volition learned the
Vietnamese language and is instrumental in the successful Vietnamese training
programs.

During this period of this report LTJG Kerry has been awarded the Silver Star
medal, the Bronze Star medal, the Purple Heart medal (2nd and 3rd awards).

18 Dec 1969"

http://www.awolbush.com/kerry-vs-bush.asp

That's all the debunking of this crap you need.

I saw the ad shown on MSNBC last night, on 'Scarborough country'.

I have sent to e-mails to MSNBC at [e-mail]. And I copied that scummy Scarborough at [e-mail].

I urge ya'll to send e-mails to MSNBC also.

Walt

[Old and In the Way]

8. Thanks Walt!

Welcome aboard!

[jackstraw45]

6. EASY...NONE of them served with Kerry. It's a SMEAR campaign

One of them served on the same boat BUT NOT AT THE SAME TIME.

That's all you have to say to a rational human being to debunk this crap. Say it far and wide.

For republicans and stupid people, there's no getting through.

[annxburns]

9. Also check

http://mediamatters.org

[Karenina]

10. Kick to ONE!

:toast:

[OKNancy]

11. Kick

[OKNancy]

12. John McCain condemns ad

http://abcnews.go.com/wire/Politics/ap20040805_1092.html