Sounds Like Iraq is Blowing Up All Over Today

[MaryH]

Just out on New York Post and the situation is really not good. AlSadr and his men have declared "revolution" against the occupiers and fighting has broken out in at least four cities.

What a mess! And what the hell are we doing mixed up in it.

[soothsayer]

1. Mixed up in it? We STARTED it!

A mess indeed.

[democratreformed]

3. Right on the money!

Indeed, I'm sure the Iraqis love their new "freedom".

[tom_paine]

13. Yah. They love their new "freedom" as much as the Imperial Subjects of

Amerika love all OUR "NewFreedom" that the Emperor has bequeathed to us...

They love Der Okkupying Fuhrer as much as we do!

[mzmolly]

2. I dont think the Iraqis want Bush again.

:shrug:

[MaryH]

5. What ever became of Bremer?

He just kind of dropped out of sight completely. Made a mad dash for the plane and was gone.

Yea, the bad part is we started the whole thing. Well, "we" didn't. About 4 men in and around the WH actually started it. Now they will all bail and we will be stuck trying to figure what the hell to do.

The thing that makes me feel worse than anything is that the women all over the Middle East are the ones who will lose. The radicals will win in the end - there are too many of them.

[spanone]

20. You can bet he's writing a book as we speak. There's money in them tomes.

[Generator]

4. Yes, it's heating up again

http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/iraq/la-080504najaf_lat,1,7965772.story?coll=la-home-headlines

NAJAF, Iraq — Heavy clashes erupted in this holy city today after a string of attacks by followers of radical cleric Muqtada Sadr, shattering a two-month-old cease-fire and sparking Sadr's Mahdi Army militia to rise up in at least three other cities, including the capital.

Among the dead were eight Iraqis — including five police officers — and one U.S. soldier, whose convoy was attacked just outside of Najaf with rocket-propelled grenades. At least a dozen Sadr militants were killed.

It marked the fiercest fighting in southern Iraq since early June,

[Worst Username Ever]

6. Let me win your heart and mind or I'll bomb your fucking house. n/t

[Rowdyboy]

7. There's an old military word for the situation in Iraq

F***ed Up beyond all recognition

[NewYorkerfromMass]

9. I thought it was "beyond all repair"

but I could be wrong.

[DoYouEverWonder]

16. It's recognition

It started in Vietnam, situation normal, fucked up beyond all recognition.

I first heard it used in a Pediatric ICU. Poor little fubar.

[HFishbine]

27. "It started in Vietnam"

They used it in "Saving Private Ryan" about WWII. Factually innacurate?

[starroute]

29. I first encountered it in college around 1964-65

So it's definitely pre-Vietnam. World War II sounds very likely -- I'm almost positive SNAFU is World War II, and FUBAR is the intensive form of SNAFU.

[NewYorkerfromMass]

30. It's both and they are both (FUBAR and SNAFU) from WWII

I did a little research:

http://www.fact-index.com/s/sn/snafu_1.html

http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=fubar

http://www.wordpirates.com/index.cgi/S/SNAFU.individual

[DoYouEverWonder]

31. Gee, did I get my wires crossed

I guess it depends on which generation you are from, which war you think the term came from. It will probably turn out that the Crusaders used the term 500 years ago. (Just kidding)

Thanks for the info.

[aint_no_life_nowhere]

33. Iraq Is Now CHUBAR - Cheneyed Up Beyond All Recognition (nt)

[Rowdyboy]

17. I've heard it both ways-either describes the situation pretty well...

Its a nightmare come to life.

[SodoffBush]

8. Just in time for the GOP Convention

al-Sadr has his own color-coded system. Let's see how the Bushies like it.

[DeepModem Mom]

10. CNN Int. interviewed reporter Ken Dilanian of the Philly Inquirer today...

who apparently has made a point of doing "positive" stories about Iraq. The point of his appearance was to say that on his current visit to Iraq any positive news there was "irrelevant." He said the combination of the insurgency, and things like lack of electricity, rendered the situation entirely negative. Asked what could turn things around, he said that everybody says it's for Iraqis to be responsible for their own security, but he seemed to have little hope for that happening.

You're absolutely right, MaryH, it's a mess -- and I guess we're "mixed up in it" because the Bush cabal was going to have regime-change in Iraq come hell or high water. I've heard of no high water, but hell has apparently arrived.

[cthrumatrix]

11. and the boy king wipes his hands clean.... his cabal should be held

for war crimes on Nov 3rd.

[MaryH]

12. The reporters in Iraq that have been on Lehrer

lately have not been very optimistic. They still can't report because it's too dangerous to be outside. So you know things are just horrible.

I wonder if Iraq might just disappear and several countries will come out of it. Or if Iraq might end up being part of Iran. It would not be out of the questions. Aren't most people in Iran Shiia?

I just cannot believe that Bush and boys could have been so stupid. Even I knew better than to get messed up in the NearEast - just from what I saw on the news. How the hell could they have missed it!

They couldn't. That's the answer. They were just so arrogant!
Well, pride goes before the fall. Too bad so many people died because of it. I wonder if any of those guys ever think about the dead people? Probably not. It would surprise me if they did.

[catmandu57]

15. Three separate countries

The civil war has started, and Iraq which was a british conglomeration will go back to what it was. The kurds will conrol the oil rich north, which isn't going to go over well with Turkey at all. The Sunnis's will control the middle of the country and the Shiite the south.
Whether the Shia will align with Iran remains to be seen, but it's likely.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

14. "Mission Accomplished!" "Bring 'em on!!"

People should be careful what they ask for.

I guess, "Mission Accomplished", was a misinterpretation by the "liberal" media.

As was, "Bring 'em on!".

[DoYouEverWonder]

18. Another good day for Halliburton

I'm sure their Board is very pleased with Cheney. He has delivered beyond their wildest dreams.

[greekspeak]

19. The Clenis is apparently working overtime today

The Clenis must be spreading its seeds of hate all over Iraq today. Spewing viscous hate and librul ideas all over the pet project.

[veteran_for_peace]

21. I weep for my fellow veterans

I weep for my fellow veterans who are being asked to lay down their lives for a lie. I weep for my country because the sacrifice of they are making is not broadcast on the national news. We do not see that in August, two soliders a day have died. Do they believe that silence will easy the ache in the hearts of the mother who will not be able to talk to their sons again? That the children of the dead will not grow up and wonder what their fathers have died for and why they never got the chance to know them.


http://jflood1000.blogspot.com

[catmandu57]

22. Welcome to DU Flood

there's been much weeping done here since the creation.

[DeepModem Mom]

23. Thanks for your beautiful post, and your service, flood999 --

and welcome to DU.

[Dyedinthewoolliberal]

26. Welcome to DU.

I too, weep for the fallen, and especially for those still living since they have been put in harms way due to a lie.........

AAACCCKKKKKKKKK!!!!!!!!! I'm now in the 700 club!:(

[Jacobin]

34. Welcome Flood

:hi:

I lived through the Vietnam era and watching the run-up to this invasion was like watching a train wreck about to happen in slow motion. Millions of protesters (not the kind who protest ANY military action) were in the streets, including me.

Bush had warnings from everyone, including his generals not to do it. Bush's own father wrote a book in the 1990's explaining what it would be insanity to attempt to occupy Iraq. George didn't listen. He said God told him to do it.

Bush is an ignorant, corrupt, insipid, partyboy who has as much business being commander in chief as Goldie Hawn.

The media play along on this thing is ghastly. They now rarely even mention the soldiers dying and being maimed, after they cheer led the U.S. into the invasion.

It is beyond disgusting.

[Bluebear]

24. But what's happening with Laci Peterson? And Michael Jackson?

nt

[smirkymonkey]

25. Still, there are millions of freeptards in this country who

think things in Iraq are going swimmingly.

I hate Bush*. I hate War. I hate all the Stupid People that support both of them. :nuke:

[veteran_for_peace]

28. The Democrats must do a better job of ralling the Veterans

I went to the John Edwards rally in Memphis, TN yesterday. That man inspires me. I had my daughters on my shoulders so they could get a look at him. The heat index was 108 and we stood out there for nearly two hours but it was one of the most inspirational moments of my life. My wife has a friend whose husband got back from Iraq in March and now he is returning on the 16th of this month. He is in the National Guard. I find it funny that Bush avoided service in Vietnam by joining the National Guard but he sure is quick to send them to Iraq. He was injured twice in Iraq and I wonder what kind of benefits is he going to get? Will our patriotic President be willing to give him the medical benefits that he deserves? The character of our nation is determined by how we treat those who have sacrificed their hearts and souls for the freedom that we enjoy. We don't always have a great record on this look at the returning veterans of World War I, Korea, Vietnam. The one example that we do have was World War II. Roosevelt knew that it was important to make sure that those who served were taking care of. We must fight for the vets. We must hold both republicans and democrats accountable.

[newyawker99]

32. Hi flood999!!

Welcome to DU!! :toast: