What was the most excruciating moment from Bush's appearance today?

[Stephanie]

I nominate this, from the Q&A:

These people don't like freedom. You know why? Because it clashes with their ideology. We actually misnamed the war on terror, it ought to be the struggle against ideological extremists who do not believe in free societies who happen to use terror as a weapon to try to shake the conscience of the free world. (Laughter.)

No, that's what they do. They use terror to -- and they use it effectively, because we've got good hearts. We're people of conscience, they aren't. They will cut off a person's head like that, and not even care about it. That's why I tell you, you can't talk sense to them. Maybe some think you can, I don't. I don't think you can negotiate with them.

That's nothing but racism, at the Unity conference. Way to go, Chimpy.

Is there another moment from today that is more humiliating to the Chimp than this one? Is "sovereignty means they're sovereign" worse?

The speech transcript is here

[PDittie]

1. "How we doin' in Orlando?"

"You're in trouble."

B-)

[Stephanie]

11. It must have been so humiliating for him.

She said it in front of everyone. Must have really irked him.

[TlalocW]

19. WHO SAID THAT?

And in what context and how many people were around, and I'm guessing it was televised???

TlalocW

[Stephanie]

21. After he spoke, he was shaking hands in the auditorium on the way out

A lady said she was from Florida. He said "how are we doing down there." She said "you're in trouble."

You couldn't really see her, and the audio wasn't great either.

[Karenina]

80. Here's a video link:

http://www.c-span.org/homepage.asp?Cat=Current_Event&Code=Bush_Admin&ShowVidNum=6&Rot_Cat_CD=BA&Rot_HT=&Rot_WD=&ShowVidDays=15&ShowVidDesc=&ArchiveDays=30

Roland Martin fans, cue up at 35:00 and 52:00 :evilgrin:

[janx]

A woman from Florida said it to him after the speech.

He asked how things were going in Orlando. There was a small line of people waiting to shake his hand, and there were secret service people everywhere. That's about it.

[Stephanie]

25. Yes but C-Span aired it so the whole world heard it

The whole world watches C-Span, right?

[janx]

30. Let's hope so!

[AlCzervik]

2. This one has been making me laugh all day

"I think one -- you know, look, you can't read a newspaper if you can't
read."

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[theivoryqueen]

60. how many of those things do you need?

on a daily basis...

[Stephanie]

62. delete

.

[theivoryqueen]

66. why'd you delete that link? I was just about to go visit...

[Stephanie]

67. because not being a freeper myself

when I saw that he had family pictures posted there alongside his collection of hate pix, I took it down. can you imagine being so freaking stupid?

[theivoryqueen]

68. gotcha.

[sandraj]

3. He started pulling the

"let me finish, let me finish" bit on Ray Suarez during the second round of panel questions (just like he did with the Irish journalist a few weeks ago). Humiliated him with a maniacal smirk on his face. It was sickening.

On edit: Bush didn't deserve one bit of the polite deference he received. He spent the entire time talking down to people who are a lot smarter, more accomplished and more articulate than he will ever be.

[Feanorcurufinwe]

27. Big laugh from the audience on that one

[MO_Dem]

4. I thought it sounded pretty stupid

when he said "if you see a Muslim looking person". Did he really mean Arab, or was he referring to their clothing and headwear?

[allalone]

69. I'm still trying to figure

out how a person looks French.

[CityZen-X]

5. Defense Bill Signing Ceremony

"Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we, " Bu$h*t said.
"They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we."
G.iant W.add of Bu$h*t

[rob-ok-vin]

53. yeah this is a great one

because we're turning the corner to this and give us four more years and we'll know how to do it right

[Stephanie]

78. LOL! Welcome to DU, rob-ok-vin!

I missed that one somehow!

[theivoryqueen]

61. that was the quote that got me.

Does he even think before he speaks AT ALL???

[ilovenicepeople]

65. I liked the quote...

"Your considered innocent until judged guilty."

[XanaDUer]

6. I may have missed it in the transcript

(Or maybe it was removed due to the extreme stupidity of his answer)

The stuff about sovereign nations and Native Americans and small businesses.

That was a :wtf: moment for me.


THE PRESIDENT: Tribal sovereignty means that, it's sovereign. You're a --
you've been given sovereignty, and you're viewed as a sovereign entity. And,
therefore, the relationship between the federal government and tribes is one
between sovereign entities.

:eyes:

[Lugnut]

36. I heard that one

I waited patiently for him to define "sovereign". Silly me.

[0007]

77. Seh mahneefeekeh!

And there are those folks indeed that believe junior is so presidential!

[NJCher]

7. sovereignty

Oh no, it has to be the "sovereignty" moment. There were many moments, many, many fine moments of unparalleled stupidity, but that one takes it because it is a "two-fer." Not only did he not know the meaning of the word "sovereignty," he misunderstood the question. They were asking what sovereignty meant in this situation, since it so obviously isn't the dictionary definition. So he responds with his version of a dictionary definition. Maxwell Smart!

Combine that with the fact that he babbled about Iraq receiving sovereignty during all of May and June, right up until the phony-baloney handover and you now realize the blank damned idiot didn't have a clue as to what he was talking about. Either that or he "forgot!"


Cher

[PassingFair]

50. Let sovereignty reign!

[zuzu98]

8. It's so hard to choose one...

If you're paying taxes, you're going to have tax relief and the government ought not to pay {sic} favorites.


edit: it actually says {sic} in the transcript.

[Stephanie]

38. Transcript must by by Unity

and not by the WH

[MUSTANG_2004]

42. Everything he says pains me

Whether I agree with a particular statement or not.

Reagan and Clinton were both exciting speakers and were fun to listen to when they were on a roll. GHW Bush was annoying, but GW is absolutely unpleasant to hear. It's not just his mangled syntax (Eisenhower did that sometimes, but still plays pretty well), but that the thought-processes behind the words are transparent. Bush seems very self-absorbed (I'll also mention that Clinton could be guilty of that sometimes too, but not when he was firing on all cylinders).

[Sabriel]

9. When I realized this guy represents the U.S. to the world

I wanted to scream out the window that he's NOT what we're all about.

[johncoby2]

10. How to fight the War on .....

the struggle against ideological extremists who do not believe in free societies who happen to use terror as a weapon to try to shake the conscience of the free world.

First, get rid of bush.

And his speech writer.

[Hutzpa]

31. How about this one

we're making a difference here in the public schools of America. In a
recent study of 61 urban school districts, 73 percent of African American 4th
graders narrowed the achievement gap with white students in reading. See,
that's how you -- you know how you know that? Because you measured. Because we
say, show us whether or not a child can read, and, if not, let's correct
problems early, before it's too late.

Now, WTF is he talking about besides trying to discriminate, this AssWipe does not give a f**k about ethnic minority, no wonder there is no more KKK because they are packed full at the White House.



:wtf:

[The empressof all]

12. affirmative action

Did I hear him say something like I want to encourage all colleges to affirmatively take action to encourage minority enrollment.

[Stephanie]

15. Here it is:

Q So you support affirmative action, but not quotas.

THE PRESIDENT: I support colleges affirmatively taking action to get more minorities in their school. (Applause.)

[The empressof all]

17. He must have rehearsed that one

I can't imagine he could have come up with such spin on his own on the fly. Fricken Amazing

[Feanorcurufinwe]

23. There was plenty of laughter mixed in the (Applause)

[Kinkistyle]

22. LOL! Affirmatively taking action!?

Heheh, all he does is take the terminology and using the same exact words, re-arranges it to make it sound different. My god he is so dumb. He sounds like the kid who has to give the book report in school but didn't actually read the book so he has to fake it.

[janx]

13. The speech is on again in about an hour, I think.

I watched most of it this morning and all of it this afternoon. It was incredible.

[zuzu98]

14. I'm sorry. I can't limit myself to one.

"We ought not to fear those who are willing to love their neighbor just like they'd like to be loved themselves."

"Seems like we ought to be trying to encourage marraige in America, not penalize it."

NOTE: add "... unless you are gay" to each statement

[AlCzervik]

16. This is the guy that he shook his fake hand

I want to tell you a story about an event that took place in the Oval
Office. Seven men came to see me, from Iraq. They had had their right hands
cut off by Saddam Hussein. You know why? Because his currency had devalued and
he needed a scapegoat. In this case, he needed seven scapegoats. I asked one
of the fellows who came in to see me, he said -- I said, why you? And he said,
well, because he happened to have sold dinars to buy euros, I think he said,
to buy gold so he could manufacture the jewelry that he was making. He made
this transaction on -- evidently on the wrong date, because the dictator
picked him out and said you're one of seven, and I'm cutting off your hand and
burning an "X" in your forehead. And these were the fellows that came to see
me.

[Stephanie]

18. He loves the gruesome and the brutal

He loves to talk about rape rooms and hands cut off - today he talked about a guy who was in bed and some guys came to hack him with an axe. He's fascinated by dismemberment. I'm convinced he's a sociopath.

[AlCzervik]

24. yes really does enjoy the tales of torture

i'd like to know if any animals came up missing around his neighborhood in Midland.

[Stephanie]

26. You didn't know? He used to blow up frogs with firecrackers

It was reported in the NY Times, as told by his childhood friend. Also, he used to shoot at his little brothers.

[AlCzervik]

28. Figures

Isnt that a standard sign that there is a problem? If my kid did that i would take her to a shrink right after i was done taking a long hard look in the mirror.

[Stephanie]

33. Yes it's a classic sign. Also, bedwetting. Here's the NY Times article:

In addition to church groups, various civic organizations were also active, and one of the local rituals for children was the meetings with cookies and milk at the home of a nice old lady who represented the Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals.

The cookies were digested more thoroughly than the teachings.

''We were terrible to animals,'' recalled Mr. Throckmorton, laughing. A dip behind the Bush home turned into a small lake after a good rain, and thousands of frogs would come out.

''Everybody would get BB guns and shoot them,'' Mr. Throckmorton said. ''Or we'd put firecrackers in the frogs and throw them and blow them up.''

http://www.makethemaccountable.com/articles/A_Philosophy_With_Roots_in_Conservative_Texas_Soil.htm

[AlCzervik]

34. A quote from a letter that dear old Dad wrote

''Georgie has grown to be a near-man, talks dirty once in a while and occasionally swears, aged 4 and a half,'' his father despaired in a letter to a friend in 1951. In another letter four years later, he lamented: ''Georgie aggravates the hell out of me at times.''

Hmmmm? that explains alot.

[kwolf68]

35. Kill dem frogs

Typical Conservative pussies.

Picking on something smaller, less powerful than yourself. I have a pro-Kerry sticker on my car and an anti-Bush sticker and I read about all the freepers who hassle fellow-Dems in here.

I can't wait till they do that to me. I'm carrying around a little payback in my knuckles for the frogs of the world. I got your back.

[theivoryqueen]

63. Holy shit - never heard that before, but makes sense

I always suspected he was more than just an asshole. Yep - a sociopath. He should have been cut from the herd when he was in diapers.

[smirkymonkey]

46. A sociopath at the very least!

An imbecilic, psychotic f**k is probably a little closer to the truth.

He's giving Kim Jong-Il a run for his money, that's for sure.

[oldlady]

20. I can't WAIT for the debates! n/t

[Karenina]

47. I bet you 5€

THOSE ARE NOT GONNA HAPPEN.

You get the advantage on the exchange rate. ;-)

[Lancer]

29. On the "soft bigotry of low expectations" (sigh)

"You know what I mean by that. If you lower the bar, guess what happens -- you get lousy results."

Living proof.

[NightTrain]

32. Saying "soverignty" five times in the same sentence...

...while the minority journalists he was addressing laughed at him. The President of the United States truly is a joke!

[Stephanie]

37. Like a HS student trying to BS an answer when he has no idea

What do you think tribal sovereignty means in the 21st century, and how do we resolve conflicts between tribes and the federal and the state governments?

THE PRESIDENT: Tribal sovereignty means that, it's sovereign. You're a -- you've been given sovereignty, and you're viewed as a sovereign entity. And, therefore, the relationship between the federal government and tribes is one between sovereign entities.

[Aviation Pro]

44. Follow up question, Mr. Resident, er, President

"You have absolutely no clue what sovereign means, do you?"

[Stephanie]

55. Welcome to DU, Aviation Pro!

"Even if I knew what it meant I wouldn't tell you, Stretch. Heh heh."

[Laura_B_manslaughter]

39. Did he say that without irony???

I mean it's just what the bush critics say about him.

[Stephanie]

40. Oh he was quite sincere

THEY will cut off your head just like that. You can't reason with THEM. Classic.

Welcome to DU, Laura_B! Sorry about your car wreck!

[otohara]

41. You Can't Read A Newspaper If You Don't Read

coming from a man who boasts he doesn't read the newspaper...

talking down to these people as if they couldn't read was a huge mistake.

[sleepyhead]

52. I heard that too!

Do they still publish My Weekly Reader? Or am I showing my age? Maybe he should subscribe!

[Aviation Pro]

43. As hard as I try....

...I simply can't watch more than one minute of this brain-dead, over-his-head, privleged residue from his Daddy's loins. He is simply the densest, most detestable individual to inhabit the WH.

[TryingToWarnYou]

45. Trying to watch the Realplayer file from CSPAN?...good luck

Too many folks watching it. LOL!

[Ms. Clio]

48. So many to choose from--also "intern camps"

I had to replay that three times to be sure that's what he said.

By all that's unholy, he actually did.

"Muslim-looking person"--perhaps he'd care to describe what he thinks this is?

"A Constitution amendment."

[Stephanie]

54. The audience couldn't help giggling when he said "intern camps"

I mean I don't know how they contained themselves as well as they did. But I saw some eye-rolling on "intern camps" - especially because he says it with such arrogance. He's so freaking belligerant all the while he's making a complete ass of himself. THAT's why it's so funny. His sort of defensive swaggering versus the idiocies coming out of his mouth.

[Ms. Clio]

64. I was also struck by his constant use of "brow beating" gestures

Like he's trying to bludgeon his listeners over the head with his fanatical ideologies until they agree with him. Yes, utterly arrogant, and a classic bully--the audience was far more polite than he deserved.

[Cat Atomic]

72. Did he say "intern camps"? I thought they were shocked that

he said, "we don't need internment camps", as if anyone had suggested the idea. Malkin's ludicrous book tries to argue that WW2 internment camps were good things, but even that idiot isn't saying we need them today.

I didn't realize he'd mangled the phrase "internment camps". Such a glorious fool is the Emperor.

[Michael Harrington]

74. He would probably put Scarborough

In charge of "Intern Camps."

[Stephanie]

79. oooh, you bad!

but Lori wasn't an intern, she was a staffer.

[seabeyond]

49. just a small point on talking to those men that had hands chopped

off.

saying chatting with them and what u.s. did to prevent this from ever happening to them again. well hey, cant cut off a hand twice

know it is little, but why would they just write in the speech cut off other's hands like what happened with you

why be stupid

[acmavm]

51. The MOST excruciating moment for me was when he came on the stage.

Anything after that was putting salt in the wound.

edit: I started to sound like the dumbass myself I'm afraid. Maybe he shouldn't be allowed to be on tv.

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[Stephanie]

58. just waiting

for your tombstone

[Stephanie]

59. How's wifey?

hmmmm?

[allalone]

70. OK I was watching King of Queens tonight

The main charactor Doug, explains things just like bush. He tried to explain vested interest on this show and he said "it's being vested, vesting, I don't know how to make it any clearer. I went OMG, it's bush!!

[Michael Harrington]

73. True, but Leah Remini

Doesn't eat shit, especailly with a big smile plastered on her face like Laura The Librarian does.

[Kool Kitty]

71. Gee, it's SO hard to pick one excruciating moment

from an appearance so chock full of excruciating moments! If I had to pick one, it would be the "sovereignity" dodge. Unbelievable, unbearable, incomprehensible. That's W. I love it when the rightwing pundits blather on about how "plain-spoken" W is. He is not plain-spoken, he is inarticulate. And ignorant. And uninformed. And tactless. And intellectually lazy. And embarassing.

[Tight_rope]

75. Bush never gets tired of making an ass of himself...What a disgrace!

[Dem2theMax]

76. I've only seen moments of it so far.

Especially the 'sovereignty' part. Had me howling. I taped the whole thing. Gonna sit down tomorrow with a bowl of popcorn and enjoy myself. :evilgrin: Shame on me. LOL.