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shockingelk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-07-04 04:29 AM
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Another John O'Neill lie: years in Vietnam
Two guestbook entries here from 2001: http://brownwater-navy.com/guestbook/Hatiengb.htm
YEARs in VIETNAM = 67-70
...
YEARs in VIETNAM = 3

From debate with Kerry on Dick Cavett, 1971: http://ice.he.net/~freepnet/kerry/staticpages/index.php?page=20040510083458318
MR. O'NEILL: I'd like you to answer that question, if you would. You obviously are quite good on the polished rhetoric, but I did serve in the same place you did, and not for four months but for 18 months ....


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loudsue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-07-04 04:59 AM
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1. Hmmm! Busted!
Either that, or immediately following the Dick Cavett show, O'heel signed up for another tour of duty!

Too bad he made it back!

:kick:
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0rganism Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-07-04 05:20 AM
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2. Hmm, seems okay, he could mean he served in another area
Sen. Kerry himself only joined the Swifts in the Mekong river after two years on a ship in the Pacific. So O'Neill could have been on another assignment in VN before or after the Swifts.
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shockingelk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-07-04 05:54 AM
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3. Nope
From his own site: http://www.swiftvets.com/staticpages/index.php?page=ONeill

"John O'Neill served as a Swift boat commander in Vietnam during 1969 and 1970"

His WSJ essay: http://www.opinionjournal.com/editorial/feature.html?id=110005036 Mr. O'Neill served in Coastal Division 11 in 1969-70, winning two Bronze Stars and additional decorations for his service in Vietnam.
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0rganism Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-07-04 06:09 AM
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4. Well, that's the 18 months swift service right there
Edited on Sat Aug-07-04 06:11 AM by 0rganism
The other 18 months, he could have been doing mail delivery in Saigon for all we know.

I do notice, however, that in the opinion journal article he says he was in the swifts for 12 months. The times, they are a-changin'...
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shockingelk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-07-04 02:13 PM
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5. I suppose a lot of people exaggerate
But it's a lie nonetheless.

I hear right-wingers wanting to see every one of Kerry's records "Fill out Form 180".

Let's have Bush and O'Neill take the high road and fill out their Form 180s.
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-07-04 02:16 PM
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6. So.. O'Neill is a FLIP-FLOPper ...
:)
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bobbyboucher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-07-04 02:16 PM
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7. Wasn't Kerry on a Destroyer, or Cruiser or something beofer
getting on the swiftboat?
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shockingelk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-07-04 02:48 PM
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9. Yes - not combat though
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JPJones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-07-04 02:24 PM
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8. Looks like 1 year on swiftboats
http://www.swiftboats.net/

PCF 53
John Ellis O'Neill, LTJG, OinC 3/69-9/69 Cat Lo

PCF 94
John Ellis O'Neill, LTJG, OinC 9/69-3/70 An Thoi/Cat Lo
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shockingelk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-07-04 02:49 PM
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10. I'm not too sure that site is accurate
Says Kerry was on PCF 66.
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