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pop goes the weasel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-07-04 06:34 PM
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Texas GOP Urges Cuts in ADA Protections
Texas Republicans are calling for removal of "persons with infectious diseases, substance addiction, learning disabilities, behavior disorders, homosexual practices and mental stress" from the protections of the Americans with Disabilities Act.

http://www.raggededgemagazine.com/drn/08_04.html#753

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Disgustapating, ain't they?
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NMDemDist2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-07-04 06:37 PM
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1. homosexual practices are listed as ADA? that's up with that? n/t
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girl gone mad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-07-04 06:42 PM
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6. From the article:
ADAWatch, a Washington-D.C. based watchdog group, says the platform "politicizes the ADA, a nonpartisan law, by trying to associate it with hot-button issues," noting that the language of the platrom tries to remove categories that are not now even covered by the law, such as homosexual practices and current illegal substance abuse.


That clears it up. Seems like they are really attempting to turn people against the ADA by appealing to base prejudices.
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Zinfandel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-07-04 06:37 PM
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2. Sounds like Nazi Germany...what's next the ovens?
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pop goes the weasel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-07-04 08:10 PM
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25. The Tennessee GOP
is working on that aspect of the Fourth Reich.
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Fovea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-07-04 06:39 PM
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3. Oh, too bad they forgot
corporate welfare addicts.
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Racenut20 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-07-04 06:40 PM
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4. They left out those of us with a Jewish Grandmother.
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flamingyouth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-07-04 06:42 PM
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5. Check out this heart-warming tale
http://komotv.com/stories/32531.htm
It will break your heart.:cry:
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salin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-07-04 06:46 PM
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7. Indeed it did.
:cry:
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flamingyouth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-07-04 06:47 PM
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8. I really have to restrain myself when I post about it here
But to think that that man worked his whole life, then lost his job due to the lousy economy, and on top of all that, our nation allows people to die from lack of access to health care, well, I think dark and evil thoughts about people in positions of power in this country.:grr:
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salin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-07-04 07:00 PM
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13. I feel great pity - believe it or not - for the folks
who are religious - and by chance were indoctrinated into politicized charismatic christian churches - who truley believe (based on the person who speaks to them from the pulpit) that they are obediently following God's words... Yet in reality their actions (from the extension of their vote, to their personal actions) move them further and further away from the teachings of that God. If one believes in the concept of soul - then it would be as if their leaders/churches are willfully leading them away from their God.

What does that have to do with this story? Look at the first couple of posts on this thread - so these texan republicans (self proclaimed Doers of Gods work) - add hot button "fear" language as part of the descriptors of those who would no longer be covered ... but those people never were covered in the first place... And in doing so cynically get the support of the manipulated/politicized religious folks ... even though the inevitable results are foul - and I doubt that many attending those churches, who are being manipulted - if they knew or could see the end results - would support them - as clearly this is not God's will.

The preachers politicizing the pulpits are vile,

The politicians using the religious politics of hate are vile,

The followers who are brainwashed into thinking the words said from the pulpit are "inspired" and thus who follow along are either fools, or are vile.

And the carnage of these types of policies grows with waves of devastation in its wake.

:cry:
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flamingyouth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-07-04 07:01 PM
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15. Amen, my friend
Truer words have never been spoken. :hug:
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salin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-07-04 07:07 PM
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16. Thanks
btw - hope all is healing for you these days... :hug:
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flamingyouth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-07-04 07:10 PM
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Things are looking up at last
I'm finally on the sunny side of the street. Thanks for your kind words and thoughts, as always.:hug:
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pop goes the weasel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-07-04 07:22 PM
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20. or not work their whole lives
I know of one twenty-something who has had dozens of surgeries, including open heart surgery, who can neither sit nor stand for more than a few minutes at a time, who (obviously) can not lift or carry anything--and she's been denied SSDI 6 times! And I know dozens who are very much like her, all denied SSDI for years, and I know of a few who didn't get it awarded until they were already dead.

Of course, it all depends on which state you live in; the Southern states are all competing to be the biggest heartless bastards on the block.
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flamingyouth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-07-04 08:03 PM
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23. Oh, I hear you
Some people can't work; I've known lots of people, sadly, in that boat too.

Then I think about these fuckwits in the Texas GOP. You know they'd be the first people to bitch if their Social Security checks were three days late. Selfish, worthless cretins.
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girl gone mad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-07-04 06:53 PM
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10. That's one of the saddest things I've ever read.
I just emailed it to my Mother-in-law, who last week told my husband that she didn't like Democrats because they were for welfare (she thinks corporate welfare is a good thing, though).
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flamingyouth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-07-04 06:57 PM
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12. I know
Next time I hear about "welfare cheats" from some RW idiot, I'm going to throw this story at them. I've been so angry and sad all day.
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Massacure Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-07-04 07:19 PM
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19. That's very sad.
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-07-04 06:51 PM
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9. ahhh- fuck um`
no one really gives a shit what they think,opps i said think...
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-07-04 06:55 PM
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11. Typical Texas Republican trash
Something about Texan arrogance seems to amplify their stupidity.

First of all, homosexuality isn't an ADA issue- although the growing preponderance of the scientific evidence suggests that it is covered under the Civil Rights Act, because it's an immutable characteristic. If these bigots had any brains, that's what they'd be worried about.

The ADA has a three-part definition of "disability." This definition, based on the definition under the Rehabilitation Act, reflects the specific types of discrimination experienced by people with disabilities. Accordingly, it is not the same as the definition of disability in other laws, such as state workers' compensation laws or other federal or state laws that provide benefits for people with disabilities and disabled veterans.

For what it's worth (I know, Republicans aren't nuanced) here's how the ADA works with respect to their other "issues."

Under the ADA, an individual with a disability is a person who:

has a physical or mental impairment that substantially limits one or more major life activities;

Physical and Mental Impairments

A mental impairment is defined by the ADA as:

"ny mental or psychological disorder, such as mental retardation, organic brain syndrome, emotional or mental illness, and specific learning disabilities."

Example:
A person who cannot read due to dyslexia is an individual with a disability because dyslexia, which is a learning disability, is an impairment. But a person who cannot read because she dropped out of school is not an individual with a disability, because lack of education is not an impairment.

"Stress" and "depression" are conditions that may or may not be considered impairments, depending on whether these conditions result from a documented physiological or mental disorder.

Example:
A person suffering from general "stress" because of job or personal life pressures would not be considered to have an impairment. However, if this person is diagnosed by a psychiatrist as having an identifiable stress disorder, s/he would have an impairment that may be a disability.

A person who has a contagious disease has an impairment.

Example:
Infection with the Human Immunodeficiency Virus (HIV) is an impairment. The Supreme Court has ruled that an individual with tuberculosis which affected her respiratory system had an impairment under Section 504 of the Rehabilitation Act.

Substantially Limits

An impairment is a "disability" under the ADA only if it substantially limits one or more major life activities. An individual must be unable to perform, or be significantly limited in the ability to perform, an activity compared to an average person in the general population.

The regulations provide three factors to consider in determining whether a person's impairment substantially limits a major life activity:

its nature and severity;
how long it will last or is expected to last;
its permanent or long term impact, or expected impact.

Examples:
A person with a minor vision impairment, such as 20/40 vision, does not have a substantial impairment of the major life activity of seeing.

A person who can walk for 10 miles continuously is not substantially limited in walking merely because, on the eleventh mile, he or she begins to experience pain, because most people would not be able to walk eleven miles without experiencing some discomfort.

These factors must be considered because, generally, it is not the name of an impairment or a condition that determines whether a person is protected by the ADA, but rather the effect of an impairment or condition on the life of a particular person. Some impairments, such as blindness, deafness, HIV infection or AIDS, are by their nature substantially limiting, but many other impairments may be disabling for some individuals but not for others, depending on the impact on their activities.

Example:
Although cerebral palsy frequently significantly restricts major life activities such as speaking, walking and performing manual tasks, an individual with very mild cerebral palsy that only slightly interferes with his ability to speak and has no significant impact on other major life activities is not an individual with a disability under this part of the definition.

The determination as to whether an individual is substantially limited must always be based on the effect of an impairment on that individual's life activities.

Examples:
An individual who had been employed as a receptionist-clerk sustained a back injury that resulted in considerable pain. The pain permanently restricted her ability to walk, sit, stand, drive, care for her home, and engage in recreational activities.

Another individual who had been employed as a general laborer had sustained a back injury, but was able to continue an active life, including recreational sports, and had obtained a new position as a security guard.

The first individual was found by a court to be an individual with a disability; the second individual was found not significantly restricted in any major life activity, and therefore not an individual with a disability.

Sometimes, an individual may have two or more impairments, neither of which by itself substantially limits a major life activity, but that together have this effect. In such a situation, the individual has a disability.

Example:
A person has a mild form of arthritis in her wrists and hands and a mild form of osteoporosis. Neither impairment by itself substantially limits a major life activity. Together, however, these impairments significantly restrict her ability to lift and perform manual tasks. She has a disability under the ADA.



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MichiganVote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-07-04 08:10 PM
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24. Nice job summarizing depakote
Folks this is another attention getting, lets scare the public tactic by these people. The elimination of what they propose cannot come about without Congressional action. Since we all know that our Congress is about as effective as a wet noodle these sad days--forget about it. Homosexuality is not even part of the ADA equation.

Devious? Yes
Deceptive?Yes
Likely to go nowhere? Yes
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Gman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-07-04 07:00 PM
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14. They're all sorry bastards
every one of them.
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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-07-04 07:10 PM
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17. Bwahahahah, They Don't Know Poppy Is Given Credit for the ADA!!! n/t
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DemoTex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-07-04 07:12 PM
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18. "Atavism"
Main Entry: at·a·vism
Pronunciation: 'a-t&-"vi-z&m
Function: noun

1 a : recurrence in an organism of a trait or character typical of an ancestral form and usually due to genetic recombination b : recurrence of or reversion to a past style, manner, outlook, or approach <architectural atavism>

2 : one that manifests atavism : THROWBACK

http://www.m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?book=Dictionary&va=atavism&x=15&y=17

'Nuff said. Thanks.
Mac
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no_hypocrisy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-07-04 07:34 PM
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21. I didn't know the descendents of Ebeneezer Scrooge settled in Texas.
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proud patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-07-04 07:47 PM
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22. They are friggin CRAZY n/t
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