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Proud2BAmurkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-08-04 07:47 PM
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Didn't Bush* claim he continued flying after being grounded?
In fact he lied and didn't continue flying.

Anyone have that quote from his biography?

We need to find it and disseminate it to the media outlets.
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PsN2Wind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-08-04 07:48 PM
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1. Could be true.
Just wasn't in a plane.
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jdj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-08-04 07:56 PM
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this quote is from awolbush.com
"I continued flying with my unit for the next several years..."

That statement is an outright LIE, which means the person making it is a LIAR.


But there is no date or anything.

http://www.awolbush.com

I think there used to be an assertion like this on his statedept bio, but it looks to me like it has been changed from what it used to say, and very little info is now given, and there is a different picture now too. I wonder if anyone got a screen capture of what it used to say.
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Downtown Hound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-08-04 07:49 PM
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2. He didn't lie about continuing to fly...
He was so done up on cocaine that you can bet he was a-flllyyyyiiinng.
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newscaster Donating Member (586 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-08-04 07:56 PM
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5. Seriously though
once you are grounded, regardless of the reason, your commanding officer is notified immediately. When you are in the air force, you are assigned an aircraft and thats the one you fly all the time. You don't borrow your buddy's aircraft. In addition, no ground crewman that I know of would ever jeopardize his own career by helping Bush to fly his own or any other aircraft at a time when he was no longer authorized to go up.


I would guess that Bush did no flying except in his head.

I was an Air Force pilot for just under thirty years.
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Downtown Hound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-08-04 08:10 PM
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7. I read somewhere that Bush got a 25%
Edited on Sun Aug-08-04 08:28 PM by Downtown Hound
on his flying exam. If Bush did any flying at all, he was actually putting his life in danger, and the only reason it was allowed was because of his family ties. The bottom line about Bush's National Guard experience is that it was a joke. Take Back the media did a radio show on this some months back. If you go to their site and scroll down through their archives, you might be able to find it.

www.takebackthemedia.com

On edit: It's radio show #28. Has all kinds of good stuff on Bush and AWOL.
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newscaster Donating Member (586 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-09-04 10:59 AM
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8. To get into AF flight school,
you have to take a written test. Bush, according to reports, passed by one point. Later, one of his flight instructors rated him as marginal regarding his piloting skills.
He not only was putting his own life in jeopardy by taking off but others lives were also threatened. Consider the flight instructors who had to fly with him before they would let him solo.
Also consider this....those planes were multi-million dollar pieces of equipment.
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Proud2BAmurkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-08-04 07:52 PM
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3. Here's one source
http://boards.historychannel.com/threaded.jsp?forum=2174&thread=100000898&start=1&msgSeq=1.2

In "A Charge to Keep," Bush briefly mentioned his National Guard service. After completing flight training in June 1970, Bush wrote, "I continued flying with my unit for the next several years."

In fact, according to reports by the Boston Globe, Democrats.com and TomPaine.com, Bush stopped flying only 22 months later in April 1972. He was subsequently grounded from flight on August 1, 1972 because he "failed to accomplish his annual physical."

There is no mention of the grounding in Bush's biography, which falsely implies that Bush continued flying until he left the National Guard.

When questioned by the press, Bush spokesman Dan Bartlett has offered several different reasons for this grounding. Initially Bartlett said that Bush could not get to Houston for his physical, but this was proved wrong when it was shown that Bush could have visited flight surgeons stationed in Alabama. Bartlett then said the F-102 fighter that Bush was trained to fly was removed from service, but this was proved wrong when it was shown that the F-102 remained in service in Bush's unit for two more years.
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Proud2BAmurkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-08-04 07:54 PM
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4. Another
1999 Autobiography by George Bush

Among the questionable claims in Bush's autobiography is that he tried to volunteer for service in Vietnam "to relieve active-duty pilots".

He did NOT volunteer for service in Vietnam; in fact, he failed to report for duty in his Air National Guard Unit and skipped off to Alabama to work on a political campaign.

"I continued flying with my unit for the next several years".

In fact, he was suspended from flight duty in August, 1972 and didn't fly at all for the last two years of his service.

He also didn't show up for duty.

http://www.rense.com/general31/emp.htm
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-08-04 07:56 PM
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6. Whadda know...a president(sic) who wrote a fake
autobiography.
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Vickers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-09-04 11:03 AM
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9. I seriously doubt he ever actually soloed
The plane he was trained on has a 2-seater trainer version. I imagine he always had a co-pilot (sic) who was there "just in case."
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allalone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-09-04 06:47 PM
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10. hey, wait a minute
is bush's fixation on being a pilot the reason terror suspects always seem to have flight training manuals with them?
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