SOmeone with a bit OF historical EDucation.. Help please...

[kabalevski]

OK..
i've posted a couple times trying to get help.. with a forum.. run by a pretty much ANTI-KERRY -- and probush site.. yet the guy running it claims to be INDEPENDANT..and not PROBUSH.. my situation..is .. this site is there for local Musicians IN Kansas.. and alot of the people reading this site.. are young people that have never voted.. ... and alot of them will be looking up to the guy running the site... i'm trying to make people see he's just being really biased..



i've posted this site.. and asked you guys to go to the site.. and debate withthe guy.. with barely any luck.. i did get someone to go.. and help a little.. (i don't know who it was.. but.. it sure helped.. ) >>mostly.. i just got called a TROLL... but..i did finally get someone to give me some advice.. which i took and brought to the forum..
HE was claiming that KERRY and Clinton have both claimed to be Un-american.. and .. i replied ..by asking for links to where ever he has read this..and he has not replied Yet..

So.. i think.. i'm doing a little better.. but.. would still like to know what anyone thinks of the rest of the shit he's posting..
i am hoping someone here that knowsa little better than me( i really don't know much.. i'm new to politics..and i've never voted before... ALSO... i'm not an UNDERCOVER BUSHman.. thank you)

ok.. here are some bits from the forum.. that he threw at me.. i will edit a bit..so it's not too long..
and you can go to the site if you want ( it won't make anyone here vote for BUSH.. so relax...)...

leadheadlockout.com
(then go to the forum)

ON BUSH--
expanded health care in many ways, has increased education spending by 40%, the majority of American's enjoy a slightly higher standard of living over the last 4 years despite the recession that Clintons tax hike created

In reply to me saying BUSH sucks.. vote for Kerry..and i mentioned something about Clinton creating a surplus and lots of jobs..(after he said clinton ran the economy into the ground and caused alot of unemployment..)

Ok, on one hand, you may have something there about the being dumb part.(that was about BUSH) However, I feel like he might just be dumb enough to not be able to lie about anything. Where Kerry I think is too smart for his own good. People like myself see right through his bull****. 4 months, 3 purple hearts, and the doctors that worked on him say "self inflicted". The men he "served" with say "self infliceted" and "unfit for duty". But that's all he said she said. Charactor says alot about people and his 20 years in the Senate with nothing to show says a lot.

( the guy doesn't spell to well..)..



Clinton did "balance" the deficit. But think about how he had to do that. Clinton in my opinion is a total son of a ****** He made jobs, but his charactor sucks. Remember the book (and movie) Black Hawk Down? What they don't tell you in there, is that after Clinton said ok to getting the warlords out of Bosnia via Delta Force and Rangers, he changed his mind and sent Marines into give the warlords an escort out instead of recalling the Rangers and Delta. Hence, placing Marines against the Delta and Rangers. Now, thank god the Marines didn't fire against the Army or vice versa, but still. Look at the compromising situation the Rangers and Delta Force were put in due to Clintons actions. We lost our fellow Americans because Clinton was being a retard.



OK.. just to re-enforce my AGENDA here.. it's.. i'm hoping to use anyone here that knows better.. and can give me some links to Debate this... so as not to go filtering through sites on my own..

thanks
(..sorry this is so long..)

[sampsonblk]

1. Hopeless Case, IMHO

Anyone who thinks, at this late stage, that Bush has been good for the economy and healthcare, cannot be convinced before November. Don't cast your pearls before that swine.

Find as many convinceable people as possible, and bombard them with facts. Time grows short.

Just my opinion.

[sampsonblk]

2. Links that may help

You'll need to look for what you need exaclty, but here's a start:

US Dept of Labor: http://www.dol.gov/
Has employment statistics that will end that discussion quick.

US Department of Health and Human Services: http://www.hhs.gov/
Contains statistics about $ spent on healthcare.

US stock market, 5-year history
http://finance.yahoo.com/q/bc?s=^DJI&t=5y
Shows how poorly the stock market has fared under Bush. Pretty disturbing.

Image - Fed deficit as % of GDP: Reagan was REALLY screwed up!


Main page with more Freeper-killing charts: worth passing on.
http://traxel.com/deficit/