Sibel Edmonds and why I think 9/11 could have been prevented...if not

[lottie244]

prevented, at least the WTC buildings could have been empty.
OK Put your tin foil hat on and hear me out.

I watched Sibel Edmonds on 60 Minutes last night and I have read her open letter to the 9/11 Commission Chair. Putting all this together and remembering the events right before and right after 9/11 I had a stunning revelation:

You can toss out the cover story about the FBI wanting Sibel to not translate important documents to create a backlog...trash this story immediately. There was already a backlog of work within the FBI...they had been working hard since the days of Louis Freeh (sp) to create a backlog. They did this by turining all their attention to Whitewater and stabbing Clinton and Reno in their backs. No, the story given to Sibel about wanting to create a backlog is phony and she is unwittingly helping them out by repeating this story.

What the FBI is really covering up is the fact that they indeed had enough information concerning times, places, related events, names and identities of those connected to 9/11 to have either prevented the event entirely or at least to have protected the people who worked in the WTC buildings BEFORE the attack occurred. THINK ABOUT IT!! Weren't you amazed to learn that within a mere 24-48 hours after the attack all 19 highjackers had been identified, their country, their behaviors leading up to 9/11? Was it just me, or did some of you also think that was some fast work ..even for the FBI. Afterall, they couldn't detect a mole working within their ranks for over 10 years.
Folks, they could do this, because they already had the information and when they scrambled to translate and pull together all the information they had from all the various sources AFTER 9/11 they discovered that, indeed, they had had all this information all the time but had either overtly or covertly ignored it. So what is worse, to admit to not doing the work in order to create a backlog or to admit that the work was done and completely ignored? Is this the true LIHOP or is it MIHOP? I submit that they knew the information all along..how else could they have so much information about the highjackers (some of whom we know had stolen identities) so quickly? Finding whole books and plans and wallets etc.? You know as well as I do, the stock transactions prior to 9/11, the movement in and out and back into the country prior to 9/11, the events right after 9/11 and the push by this administration to NOT investigate anything surrounding and including 9/11 is mighty brazen but totally easy to do with the brain-dead population that make up the base of Bush supporters.

OK, tell me what you think. The reason they haven't imprisoned Sibel as of yet is because they want her out there telling the piece of the puzzle that she actually knows and is being truthful about...but it's the piece that she doen't know that they are trying to keep hidden.

Will Pitt, Joe Conason, and all you other "investigative journalists"
where are you? Are you out there? If so, tell me what you think.

[cthrumatrix]

1. there should be an investigation...and Asscroft "gags" the data..red flag

Obviously, the data was important and the FBI (or individuals) had it stopped.

How they are able to get away with it and who is protecting such a treasonous act is "frightening"....so bad that Asscroft has to have her data classifed.

[Paradise]

2. Yes, I was amazed! Thanks for saying it!

"Weren't you amazed to learn that within a mere 24-48 hours after the attack all 19 highjackers had been identified, their country, their behaviors leading up to 9/11?"

[lapfog_1]

3. While I've come to think that LIHOP is likely

the evidence expressed here and by others in other threads and
on conspiracy theory websites is not convincing.

After the attacks it would be a simple matter to find out who
the terrorists were by simply examining the passenger lists. These
guys didn't do much to hide themselves. Also, they knew where the
flights originated, so finding the security checkpoint tapes and
getting still images would not be difficult. Once you have some
of that info, you can start calling in favors around the world for
passport photos and drivers license photos from countries of
origin (and since most came from Saudi Arabia this would be one
stop shopping). Couple that with what they ALREADY admit re
the plot (PDB memos, CIA and counter-terrorist czars running around
with their "hair on fire", etc, etc) and you have a fairly quick
mystery to unravel. This didn't need Mycroft or Sherlock, only
Nancy Drew... and a not real bright Nancy.

There could be some aspects that one might find suspicious, like
the hijackers movements for the last year in the US... items that
might indicate that the FBI was, in fact, watching these guys before
9/11 and did nothing to stop it. But the fact that they came up
with a list (which later proved to be highly inaccurate, btw) and
a set of photos (again, are those the real photos?) is simply
not compelling evidence of a conspiracy or people knowing more
than they should withing 24 to 48 hours of an event like this.

[lottie244]

5. It's a lot more compelling than the idea that Saddam had WMDs

We went to war over phony intel, lies, and misinformation. In view of this, even a "wild-eyed" theory such as the one posted here might deserve at least a more in depth investigation. I'm not asking for a war.

[lapfog_1]

6. OK... list the information

that they Feebs had on 9/13 that seems to be a little too pat.
In other words, given that you had 4 hijacked flights, you have
the complete passenger manifests, the security tapes from the
originating airports... what did the feebs release that doesn't
just fall out of a tree... Even I, a completely untrained idiot,
could figure out who to start calling and what questions to ask.
But, if there was something spilled on 9/13 or 9/14 that seems
like it didn't just logically follow... well, let's list it and
start asking questions.

[BeFree]

8. The point is:

The FBI had all that info but for some reason did not use it. The question is: Why? Why didn't they use it to keep people safe? Why didn't they do their job?

Looking at how it all unfolded, one just has to become comfortable with a conspiracy theory. And now we have a Sibel Edmonds coming to us with a story which re-inforces conspiracy theories. Anyone not willing, at this point, to entertain the possibilty of a conspiracy within the government is one who trusts the boosh administration far too much.

We don't know what happened. Why don't we know, almost three years later? Because the facts are being kept from us; there are too many unanswered questions. The blame for that lies with boosh.

Kerry on.

[lottie244]

11. Aha...the manifests were not complete. Several articles concerning

this fact were posted not long after 9/11. The questions were never officially addressed...just left out there hanging. The fact that even an idiot might know where to start collecting identifications doesn't mean there isn't something suspicious about how fast this stuff was put out on the airwaves. It usually takes several days for the information to be vetted and put out for public consumption. In this case, the photos and IDs previous actions were all out within 48 hours. Really fast when Condi says no one could ever imagine that this kind of thing would have happened...although we know that plenty of people "imagined" it.

"The US still has no idea as to the names of at least nine of the hijackers.

* Nine of the people identified by the US have been found alive or are known to have died years ago.
* The US uses the pictures of these people so it is not a confusion of names.
* Not one hijacker's name is on any of the passenger manifests even though they were required to show photo IDs to board. Therefore they were not on board or had false IDs.
o There have been no arrests for supplying those false IDs.
o There has been no identification of which passenger names were the false names.
o There has not even been a suggestion there were any false names on the passenger lists and the US counts all the names as among the victims.
* The names released on the flight manifests are fewer than the number of people reported on the flights."

[lottie244]

4. One more thing

If there wasn't something fishy going on don't you think that by now that a President who CLAIMS that fighting terrorism is his top priority would have started a special investigation himself regarding Sibel Edmonds' allegations and now proven to be true charges?

You know, J. Edgar Hoover used to blackmail Presidents with the information he was able to collect on them. Think this is happening now? Another reason why the Patriot Act is so alarming...who controls the information?

[cthrumatrix]

7. exactly...if they want truth...why are they running from it!

[slojim240]

9. Of all the "theorists" on this board, you are either the wackiest or most

brilliant. I can't decide which.

[lottie244]

10. I vote for "brilliant"

Thanks for just paying attention.

[lottie244]

12. One more link to support my theory.

http://search.netscape.com/ns/boomframe.jsp?query=9%2F11+plane+manifests&page=1&offset=0&result_url=redir%3Fsrc%3Dwebsearch%26requestId%3D14fd0405da5e99f9%26clickedItemRank%3D1%26userQuery%3D9%252F11%2Bplane%2Bmanifests%26clickedItemURN%3Dhttp%253A%252F%252Fwww.cbsnews.com%252Fstories%252F2002%252F09%252F04%252Fseptember11%252Fmain520830.shtml%26invocationType%3D-%26fromPage%3DNSCPIndex2%26amp%3BampTest%3D1&remove_url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.cbsnews.com%2Fstories%2F2002%2F09%2F04%2Fseptember11%2Fmain520830.shtml
:hi:

[lottie244]

13. Kicking again to get the outcry started.

I'll know when it makes the talking heads if my crusade to get those responsible to be held accountable for 9/11. If I am alone in this, so be it. But somewhere out there is someone who will be more effective on this than I can be.

[socrscnt]

14. how could the government

evacuate 100,000 people from the middle of Manhatten without causing a riot?

And you are going to arrest these perpatrators on what charges? Everyone is already having kittens with the new lattitudes granted law enforcement agencies.