John McCain: An honorable man turned whore

[Cyrano]

John McCain is a conservative Republican with whom I disagree on most issues. Nonetheless, I applauded him last week when he condemned the despicable anti Kerry ads being run by a group calling itself "Swift Boat Veterans." This is a Karl Rove operation being funded by another Texas friend of Dubya.

McCain called upon the White House to condemn the ad, but they of course shook their heads and said it was none of their business.

Personally smeared by Bush/Rove in the 2000 primary, McCain is, nonetheless out there with Bush on the campaign trail. WTF is wrong with this man? He endured years of torture as a POW at the "Hanoi Hilton," yet he is speaking up for someone he loathes and whom he knows was living in the lap of luxury while he was suffering in North Vietnam.

Has Karl Rove taken McCain's wife and child hostage? What the hell do they have on him? And if they have nothing on him, what the hell is he doing out there speaking up for the rancid turd occupying the White House? I just don't get it.

[WI_DEM]

1. I don't know why this is so surprising?

McCain backed the chimp in '00 even after the terrible things Bush's campaign said of him and his family in SC. He has insisted he will never switch parties and that he favors Bush in this election. McCain is a devout conservative who is just as bad as Bush on any number of issues including the war in Iraq.

[Cyrano]

3. Nonetheless, there's a difference between issues and

the kind of personal attacks on McCain that took place in South Carolina. In another era, McCain would have challenged him to a duel, or at least confronted him and kicked the shit out of him.

How can he now turn around and support him. Unlike the crap peddled in "The Godfather," it's not business, it's personal.

[ContraBass Black]

2. Maybe he supports Bush becasue he's a conservative.

I respect him too, but I would never vote for him.

[Jacobin]

17. Bush is NOT a conservative

He supports huge deficits.
He presided over the largest increase in federal spending in decades.
He promotes and participates in nation building and pre-emptive wars.
He is in favor of the federal government regulating marriage.
He is in favor of the federal government regulating women's ovaries.
He wants to merge church and state.
He has eviscerated the Bill of Rights with the "Patriot Act"

NONE of his policies are conservative, as the definition is defined.
He is a neo-conservative, but they have NOTHING to do with traditional conservativism.

McCain is a shmuck and is putting his misguided loyalty above the well-being of this country. Bush* is a Clear and Present danger to the U.S. and nobody knows it better than McCain.

[ContraBass Black]

28. Bush isn't conservative, but a lot of conservatives vote for him.

Whether or not they're aware of what's going on is another matter.

[PsN2Wind]

4. Because

before country, before family, before honor, before pride, McCain is a Republican. He used up all the honor given him by his fathers in VietNam and I am ashamed that he is my senator.
The people on this site that get all misty-eyed at the mention of his name need to realize that he will do anything to get Dubya elected, no matter what damage that will do to our country. Anyone that can say anything good about a group that savaged him as they did during the 2000 primaries is obviously someone who's overriding loyalty is to "the party", everything mentioned above is secondary.

[Cyrano]

7. I wouldn't define this as loyalty

A better word is insanity.

[mitchum]

29. That is it exactly

a wonderful and dead-on analysis, PsN2Wind

[Jack The Tab]

5. John McCain..let his party slander his family...

his own party said some of the most disgraceful and untruthful things about HIS FAMILY for goodness sakes, and now actively campaigns for someone HE KNOWS was behind those awful smears.

The fact that he mutters some offhand statements condemning the Swift Boat morons matters NOTHING.

He has no self-respect. If anyone spoke about my wife and children the way Busch/Rove?Cheney directed their subordinates to in 2000, there would be physical hell to pay.

John McCain has no convictions. Let's please stop repeating this fallacy and can we please lose this praise that he often gets on this DEMOCRATIC message board.

[La Lioness Priyanka]

6. as long as one identifies as a republican he/she is a whore.

or an idiot. mccain isnt and idiot, what he is is an elitist whore.

[JI7]

8. i hope people ask him about the attacks on Kerry's military service

when he is campaigning with Bush. it would bring back memories of what happened to him in 2000 at a time he is campaigning with the guy who is responsible for it.

[PsN2Wind]

13. Wouldn't you love to hear

someone ask him why we should believe anything he has to say about Dubya since Karl Rove told us that he is unstable.

[RetroLounge]

9. Battered Wife Syndrome?

just asking...

RL

[Cyrano]

10. More likely a chip in his brain ala "The Manchurian Candidate."

There's just no accounting for what's going on in McCain's head. Conservatinve or not, I just can't understand the man.

[Cyrano]

11. duplicate post deleted

[unfrigginreal]

12. Could be he's just a Republican with aspirations for 2008

If McCain's statement that Bush "wouldn't pull such a cheap stunt" isn't a direct slap at the chimp, for people that paid attention to 2000, I don't know what would be. By campaigning and praising Bush he does help his image with the moron vote, but the backhanded slaps will have the most effect with the general electorate.

[TexasSissy]

14. This is unfair to McCain. He's a Repub who has made it clear from

the start that he will support Bush for President. It's remarkable that ANY Repub would speak out against a negative ad of its own party during an election year. I never expected that. And I didn't expect him NOT to support Bush for Pres., either.

[Jacobin]

18. If he is actively campaigning for Bush and supports him

then McCain is part of the problem and an enemy of the country.

[TexasSissy]

21. McCain is no enemy of mine. Glad he's not like Zel Miller.

[Zhade]

15. Um...Keating Five? Black Mesa? Iraq War booster?

Since WHEN has McCain ever been a decent man?

It's a great PR job, but it ain't the truth.

[Piperay]

16. Some people have no

pride maybe that's it. :shrug: I know that I would never support someone who heaped such abuse on me, my pride would never let me do that. x(

[fujiyama]

19. He seems to be a masochist

I really don't think he's friends with Bush in any way. This seems to be out of party loyalty. Maybe he's made some sort of deal with other republicans that if he actively backs Bush, he gets something in return (maybe with commitee assignments, etc).

Otherwise, it just mayb be that his politics simply lean toward the right and he wants the neocon agenda to be forwarded.

[DaveofCali]

20. Maybe the Republicans threatened harm on his family....

Well hey, they know that McCain is useful to get the independent vote, so it could occur to them to use him any way they please.

[Tim4319]

22. How can he constantly support this president, when he attacked

him as personal as he did during the Republican Primaries. I don't care if he is going to remain a Republican or not. Bush attacked his war duty, his adopted child, and his wife. All of those things should be off limits when it comes to debates! I understand the whole "all is fair in love and war" saying. But, if you have an ounce of morales, those topics should not be touched, especially if you do not want others to question your war record, drug abuse, alcohol abuse, or driving record. There is no way, if I were John McCain, would I show up to the Republican National Convention, and show Bush support! So yes, to me, he is now a whore!

[footinmouth]

23. Yikes, please don't flame me, but ...

I really like this guy. He's one of the few Republicans I have some respect for. The man seems to at least have some sense of fair play. By his own description, he is a conservative Republican. I guess we can be thankful that he took a stand againce the bogus anti-Kerry ads. I don't think we'll be getting much more than that.

Who knows what deals may be going on behind the scenes? Perhaps his willingness to campaign for Bush came at a bigger price than is apparent. If he were our President right now, I somehow don't think I'd be feeling quite as much hostility towards him that I feel towards Bush. I think we need to cut McCain some slack.

OK, flame away. I guess I deserve it. :scared:

[Jacobin]

25. He's the kind of guy who will say anything to please whoever

is in the room with him at the time. I've known people like this. They just want to please.

Accordingly, they have little in the way of principles although they are adament that they do.

[Bluebear]

26. "Why is Chelsea Clinton so ugly?"

"Because Janet Reno is her real father." - John McCain 'entertaining' guests during a speech at a Republican gathering.

[footinmouth]

27. eeeek, I've never heard that one before

EEeewwwwwww, that's the first time I've seen that one. He's one of the few Republicans that I even find tolerable. I guess I'll go back into the closet with this one.

[Cyrano]

30. Jeeeez, never heard that Chelsea Clinton remark before

Where did McCain say that? When? If this is factual, that puts McCain in Rush Limbaugh's league. And, if true, any remnants of respect I had for McCain are gone. Please specify sources.

[K8-EEE]

33. Franken Said Today That Kerry Defended McCain In 2000

From the Bush smear machine --- I don't know how McCain can keep up this Shrub campaigning unless Shrub at least denounces the swiftboat liars (and not just the way they were financed, the message itself, which is truly dishonest and disgusting!!

[kerry-is-my-prez]

24. Heard he wants to run for Prez. in 2008 and has to look like a "good" Rep.

So he has gone back into the Repub. "fold."

[Disturbed]

31. A bootlickin' swine.

McCain talks from both sides of his mouth. Anyone that respects this creep is just not payin' attention to the reality of this situation. Dumbass and his Admin. are Neo Fascists, the Republican Party has been hijacked by Neo Fascists and Right Wing Psuedo-Christians. McCain is not stupid. He knows that as well as most of us here do. He is nothing short of a coward and a whore.

[Waverley_Hills_Hiker]

32. I think he's a loyal Republican...but w. an independent streak...

...so, I dont really see him as a whore.

[Shadowen]

34. Every once in a while...

...he shows some signs of spine. But never directly controverting Bush. War hero or not, he knows that if he goes against Bush he can kiss his backbone constituents goodbye.