My smack down of another freeper

[noahmijo]

Thanks to a little help from DU here is what this punk says and my responses will be in bold

Freeper:

Would you like your tall glass of STFU with or without the lemon?

He had them and he was hiding them from inspectors. There's no disputing it, no denying it, and no spinning it into an absence of massive stockpiles laying out in the open for coalition forces to find.


Ahh yes the Sarin gas argument. Amazing how you neo-cons are holding onto this one. These weren't weapons they were relics they were NOT wmd's.

They are leftovers from the Iraq-Iran war. They are worthy of museum display not as evidence.


FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE


IRAQ ROCKETS FOUND IN LATE JUNE TEST NEGATIVE FOR CHEMICALS

Baghdad, Iraq - On June 16, 2004, an Iraqi civilian led Polish Soldiers to two 122mm rockets he had found in Al Hillah.

The rounds were tested and showed positive for Sarin gas. It has been determined that the rounds were left over from the Iran-Iraq war.


link:

http://www.centcom.mil/CENTCOMNews/news_re...se=20040705.txt

By the when are your friends at Fox News going to retract their article and admit they messed up?

I prefer my glass of STFU with lemon how do you take yours?



Guess again. I'm from my own playing field. Say, did you get so excited when you finally had that moment of self-esteem that you typed out "That's that" instead of "That's some?" Don't let me bring down your special feeling of identifying someone different than yourself and rejecting what they say. Not everyone can be you. I know I can't; I'm just an asshole with an open mind.


You may have an open mind but you offer no credible evidence that shows Kerry behaving in a manner which was "pro-war"

Once again show me in this passage which shows Kerry as being totally on Bush's side fully supporting war.



Whole speech:

http://www.independentsforkerry.org/upload...kerry-iraq.html

Put all the hefty facts on the table you want. The problem is they don't pertain to this issue of Kerry being "pro-war" all the way.

You're not on your own playing field. You're on the Bush playing field and for some reason (which would be nice if you would share) you're shilling strongly for Bush because you believe he is good for you or good the country. So don't play this "I'm an independent thinker" crap.

And yes I will fully admit right here I'm a Kerry liberal Democrat so you know exactly what to expect out of me. (insert your smart-ass remark here)



At least you admit the truth. I spent pages trying to force the rest of your crowd to face it. Do you think you can get them on the same page?

My friends back at Domino's aren't high schoolers. They are human beings and they have the right to work without Kerry or you fucking up their jobs. You aren't giving them your money. You are trying to give them someone else's money.


See the way it works is you raise the minimum wage and people like your friends still get to keep your jobs because by typical law of the market the first to be cut are high schoolers who really don't need the jobs as bad as older people, say like your friends, who have families and many bills as opposed to high schoolers just lookin to make some extra cash so they don't have to beg mommy and daddy for everything.

This is why I worked at Domino's when I was 19.

Raising the minimum wage to at least match inflation is NOT advocating taking away their right to work.





suggest you read the former failed attempts to argue with me...
http://www.volconvo.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=2089

...because you, like everyone else, will fail.


Wow well we just got someone from the O'Reilly school of debating here don't we? buddy I already got you behind in this post alone.

You're using bully tactics to push your point of view NOT the facts, and maybe the overblown ego act works with your wife or people smaller than you do but it ain't working here.




So we should send felons to school? Why not. Same shit different building.

Look, the point was that Kerry would continue to force us to pay for this failing system. Just because you like being told what to do by the government doesn't mean everyone else does. Ok?


No we don't send felons to school, but you see if they get an education early in life the likelyhood of them going to prison is far lower isn't it? and this is a far better investment for our nation and far cheaper too!

So because I advocate investing in schools and trying to strengthen public education that means I do everything the government tells me.

I take it you are strongly against the government constantly telling you to be on alert with all these terror warnings correct? since you hate the government always trying to tell you what to do?





Simple. If Kerry is elected, he will do the exact same thing as Clinton: absolutely nothing. They could topple the Statue of Liberty and Kerry would put his fingers in his ears and pretend the middle east doesn't exist. Maybe he'll let Bin Laden go like his predecessor too, that is if anyone catches him again.


Actually I think he'd behave differently than Bush did on 9-11.




Yes. He wants the UN to rule America. He wants the UN to tax America, to tell America when it can go to war, and to rewrite it's laws. If the UN is going to do all these things, then what good is voting?

Most people will not dispute these facts, rather the norm for your crowd is to say "What's wrong with that" and then proceed to nag about the evils of western imperialism. I thought imperialism was trying to control a country with unelected officials.


What facts? they're facts because you say so? it is a fact that Kerry wants the UN to rule America because you say so?

Wow your ability to argue is really really shining here.


Let me translate Kerry's lies for you.

"I defended this country as a young man and I will defend it as President."
"I protested against this country as a young man and I will protest against it as President."

"Let there be no mistake: I will never hesitate to use force when it is required."
"Unless foreign troops step foot on our soil, terrorists may do as they please."

"Any attack will be met with a swift and certain response."
"I will immediately take a vacation upon the United States being attacked."
or
"I will order the seizure of guns so that Arab-Americans are not killed."
and probably
"I will ask the UN to find the terrorists and bring them to justice."

"I will never give any nation or international institution a veto over our national security."
"I will give the UN full authority to decide when we go to war."

"And I will build a stronger American military."
"I will cut military spending."


Again you said so so it must be true! no evidence nothing, I wish I could argue as well as you.



By the way, nice try with the attempt to persuade me that we are plumetting towards a dark form of socialism. Hahaha, you tried to argue for minimum wage. Who do you think you're fooling? You aren't on my side.


So minimum wage is evil but giving corporations corporate welfare and huge tax cuts even when they outsource core competencies is okay with you?

This is a sinister form of socialism only it works in favor of corporations and the rich instead of for the people.


Link:

http://www.volconvo.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=2677&st=45

[madmax]

1. Bravo!! Great smack down.

:bounce: :kick:

[Jo March]

2. They are like cockroaches

They are extremely hard to kill. Light simply makes them run and hide. The light of truth makes them scream and then run and hide.

I like your smackdown. That freeper couldn't argue his way out of a paper bag.

Good going!