Billboard on 85-N leaving SC: Volunteer for Homeland Defense Force

[blm]

HOMELAND DEFENSE FORCE???????????

Since Bush is using the National Guard in Iraq and Afghanistan, you think they're trying to pump up the local militia groups? Or maybe trying to mainstream them? And for what reason? Will they be used for us or against us?

Anyone else see these billboards around?

[SCDem]

1. That's freaky!

I drive 77 everyday and haven't been on 85 in a while.. If you find out more about it post it.

[blm]

4. LOL...I only saw it briefly on trip from Greenville to Charlotte.

I was hoping others had seen it and could report in greater detail.

The sign looked pretty new.

[White Feather]

11. Defense Forces

Every state has a non-paid "defense force" of former/retired military guys.

I started seriously to get involved with the one here in Georgia, but they wear berets, and as a former Marine, that just makes me gag.

Walt

[WildClarySage]

2. Yikes!

I didn't see those last time I was down a couple of weeks ago, but I did see an enormous number of disturbingly conservative ones. Liked the ones asking if you've lost your job to outsourcing yet.

[LiberalEsto]

3. here comes the Gestapo

The plan: ship the military, the reserves, and the National Guard overseas. The reserves callups are even cutting into the number of active police officers in our 50 states. Nobody's home but us civilians.

Next step: Oops! Terra attack somewhere, probably in a Blue State.

Step 3: Impose martial law in the U.S. Cancel elections.

Step 4: Send in the Homeland Defense Force, bolstered by mercenary "contractors" like those working for Halliburton, to secure our 50 states and protect them from "terra."

Step 5. Kiss democracy goodbye.


I hope and pray I'm wrong but my gut tells me differently.

[KoKo]

5. OMG.....what next. How are things going in SC poll wise? Anyone know?

I've been battling some nasty e-mails from some folks who are down there.

[blm]

16. IMO, even the red states are battleground states, KoKo.

Last I heard Kerry was at 43% in SC.

[KoKo]

23. 43% is good. Lets hope the unemployment numbers there wake folks

up. Also some of the transplants in the retirement communities along the coast who might be worried about how they are going to afford staying in their gated golf communities given what Bush has done to the economy.

[KoKo]

6. BTW, Flashing sign on I-95 between PA & NY (on recent road trip up

there) read: Alert: Report any Suspicious Activity to 1-800.......

That was pretty freaky. You are driving I-95 at 65 miles an hour and you are supposed to check out cars whizzing and see if something looks suspicious? What does the message mean by suspicious? :eyes: All designed to keep "terra..terra..terra" on your mind.

George Will mentioned the flashing sign on Snuffy's show Sunday, also.
Driving his son to a baseball game he saw it. I didn't get the impression he was surprised by it, like I was. He probably enjoyed it.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

7. Will they be wearing grey uniforms and singing "Dixie"?

Sounds like the same kind of guys that shot up Fort Sumpter between whipping the "happy" darkies and trying to get into Scarlett O'Hara's crinolines.

[Coventina]

19. lol!

Thanks for bringing a laugh into my morning!

[LiberalEsto]

8. Homeland Defense info

I ran "homeland defense Force" through the Google search engine and came up with this interesting little report:

<a href="http://www.sgaus.org/BankusPaper.htm">http://www.sgaus.org/BankusPaper.htm<//a>

There's loads of other stuff Google turned up, including something by the evil Heritage Foundation that my computer was unable to open.

Let's all try to keep an eye on this issue.

[shance]

9. I googled Homeland Defense Force

and the Heritage Foundation is somehow connected with this so called Defense force?

[blm]

10. So they ARE planning to mainstream the militia mentality.

Anything the Heritage Foundation is connected with is definitely a White House project.

My concern is this being set in place before the election and is it FOR the election?

[BeHereNow]

12. SDF's will have DoD equipment!

Yippeee!
All those wanna be warriors can patrol right here at home
with real guns and everything, just like the real soldiers!
Only the enemy will be their fellow citizens, 'specially the
brown, gay, atheist or traitor ones- like you and me!
Read this and realize the jack boots ARE here, and they
are going to be armed to the teeth.
BHN

108th CONGRESS
1st Session
H. R. 2797
To amend title 32, United States Code, to improve the readiness of State defense forces and to increase military coordination for homeland security between the States and the Department of Defense.
IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES

July 18, 2003
Mr. WILSON of South Carolina (for himself, Mr. DAVIS of Tennessee, Mr. JENKINS, Mr. BROWN of South Carolina, Mr. NORWOOD, Mr. COLLINS, Mr. MCCOTTER, Mr. CARDOZA, and Mrs. MYRICK) introduced the following bill; which was referred to the Committee on Armed Services
------------------------------------------------------------------------
A BILL
To amend title 32, United States Code, to improve the readiness of State defense forces and to increase military coordination for homeland security between the States and the Department of Defense.

Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled,
SECTION 1. SHORT TITLE.
This Act may be cited as the `State Defense Force Improvement Act of 2003'.
SEC. 2. FINDINGS.

Congress makes the following findings:
(1) Domestic threats to national security and the increased use of National Guard forces for out-of-State deployments greatly increase the potential for service by members of State defense forces established under section 109(c) of title 32, United States Code.
(2) The efficacy of State defense forces is impeded by lack of clarity in the Federal regulations concerning those forces, particularly in defining levels of coordination and cooperation between those forces and the Department of Defense.
(3) The State defense forces suffer from lack of adequate military training, equipment, support, and coordination with the Department of Defense and other Federal agencies as a result of real and perceived Federal regulatory impediments.

SEC. 3. RECOGNITION OF STATE DEFENSE FORCES.
(a) IN GENERAL- Section 109 of title 32, United States Code, is amended--
(1) by redesignating subsections (d) and (e) as subsections (i) and (j), respectively;
(2) by inserting after subsection (c) the following new subsections:
`(d) RECOGNITION- Congress hereby recognizes forces established under subsection (c) as an integral military component of the Nation's homeland security effort, while reaffirming that those forces remain entirely State regulated, organized, and equipped and recognizing that those forces will be used for homeland security purposes exclusively at the local level and in accordance with State law.
`(e) ASSISTANCE BY DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE- The Secretary of Defense is authorized to coordinate homeland security efforts with, and to provide assistance to, a defense force established under subsection (c) to the extent such assistance is requested by a State or by a force established under subsection (c) and subject to the provisions of this section.
`(f) USE OF DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE PROPERTY AND EQUIPMENT- (1) The Secretary of Defense may authorize qualified personnel of a force established under subsection (c) to use and operate property, equipment, and facilities of the Department of Defense as needed in the course of training activities and State active duty.
`(2) The Secretary of Defense may determine methods to expedite the ability of forces established under subsection (c) to have access to surplus Department of Defense equipment, consistent with the authorized mission of such forces, in a manner that will not result in direct or indirect costs to the Department of Defense.
`(g) FEDERAL/STATE TRAINING COORDINATION- (1) Participation by a force established under subsection (c) in a training program of the Department of Defense is at the discretion of the State.
`(2) Nothing in this section may be construed as requiring the Department of Defense to provide any training program to any such force.
`(3) Any such coordinated training program shall be conducted in accordance with a joint voluntary agreement between the Department of Defense and the State or the force established under subsection (c).
`(4) Any direct or indirect costs to the Department of Defense of providing training assistance to a force established under subsection (c) shall be reimbursed by the State. Any agreement between the Department of Defense and a State or a force established under subsection (c) for such training assistance shall provide for payment of such costs.

`(h) LIABILITY- Any liability for injuries or damages incurred by a member of a force established under subsection (c) while engaged in training activities or State active duty shall be the sole responsibility of the State, regardless of whether the injury or damage was incurred on United States property or involved United States equipment or whether the member was under direct supervision of United States personnel at the time of the incident.'; and

(3) by adding at the end the following new subsection:

`(k) DEFINITION- In this section, the term `State' includes a Territory, the Commonwealth of Puerto Rico, and the District of Columbia.'.
(b) CONFORMING AMENDMENTS- Such section is further amended in subsections (a), (b), and (c) by striking `or Territory,' and all that follows through `of Columbia'.
(c) CLERICAL AMENDMENTS- (1) The heading of such section is amended to read as follows:

`Sec. 109. Maintenance of other troops: State defense forces'.
(2) The item relating to such section in the table of sections at the beginning of chapter 1 of such title is amended to read as follows:

`109. Maintenance of other troops: State defense forces.'.

END

Check out this site: Lot's of GREAT plans for the militarization
of the civilian SDF's! That is where the text of the bill is-
Apparently they think arming our neighbors with DoD
weaponry is a swell idea! Obviously, they are insane.
http://www.freedomfoundation.us

[BeHereNow]

13. Article about the Bill:

This is mind-numbing.
The only satisfaction I have is knowing that
the hate-mongers who line up for this very
bad idea will not realize that by participating, they
will make themselves eligible to have their asses
shipped off to anywhere the empire wants them...
heh-heh. We'll see who has the last laugh.
Ya gotta hand it to the neocons though,
what a devious way to build up the military
forces and prolong starting the draft!
Clever indeed.
BHN
http://www.freedomfoundation.us/sdf_triple_victory

"The bill now calls for DOD to report to the House Armed
Services Committee by December 31 whether the Department should consider augmenting the capabilities of state
defense forces authorized by Title 32, United States Code, with available training opportunities and surplus
equipment. This report should address any unmet requirements related to CBRNE enhanced response teams and any
necessary measures to augment the capabilities of state defense forces. The language is expected to pass the full
House with the larger bill.
Wilson is the author of the separate State Defense Force Improvement Act, HR2797, which remains under
consideration by the full house. The bill would remove regulatory impediments to closer cooperation and training
between DOD and SDFs, provide easier access to surplus equipment, clarify liability issues for joint federal/state
homeland security efforts, and potentially add an additional 250,000 troops to the National Guard system
specifically for homeland security duties within the United States, at no cost to the federal budget."

[blm]

14. Boy, they really pushed this through quietly, didn't they?

Joe Wilson is just a tool for the Bushies. He is WAY too thick to write anything himself. I doubt his IQ is over 95.

This whole thing stinks, and it stinks even more that most of the country has no idea that a Homeland Defense Force can be an arm of the Dept. of Defense. This is mainstreaming and ARMING the militia types.

[BeHereNow]

15. Pretty Scary, Eh?

When you think about the "True Believer" mentality
of the 'murikkkan masses these days.
And yes, they did slip that one through rather quietly-
just like Hitler was busily making every attrocity he
committed legal, so is the Cabal of Fascists.
Too bad no one is paying attention.
BHN

[tom_paine]

17. In these sterile lawyered words, the malevolent New Ameriklan Brownshirts

are being born.

May God Have Mercy on our souls.

May God have Mercy on the poor bastards who will inhabit this nation in a century...

[Coventina]

20. No kidding!

I'm thinking for sure I'm not going to have kids now.
What kind of country would I be leaving them to live in???

[tom_paine]

22. Well, the outcome of Liberty vs. Tyranny Round #153, has not yet been

decided.

I would definitely hold up on having kids until the outcome is clear.

And yes, if the Imperial Family retains control and finishes transitioning Amerika into Orwellian Totalitarian Empire, then in the words of Hunter S. Thompson "Big darkness, come soon."

[thecrow]

18. Here's Heritage Foundation links:

http://www.heritage.org/research/homelanddefense/project.cfm
TABLE OF CONTENTS

The Heritage Foundation Homeland Security Task Force (PDF 82k)

Preface (PDF 85K)

Executive Summary (PDF 113k)

The Chapters

Chapter 1: Top Priorities for Protecting the Nation's Infrastructure (PDF 204k)


Chapter 2: Top Priorities for Strengthening Civil Defense Against Terrorism (PDF 1.2MB)

Chapter 3: Top Priorities for Improving Intelligence and Law Enforcement (PDF 204k)
Chapter 4: Top Priorities for Military Operations to Combat Terrorism (PDF 186k)

Appendix

Table A-1: Status of Anti-Terrorism Actions bythe Executive Branch (PDF 89k)
Table A-2: Status of Anti-Terrorism Legislation (PDF 117K)
Bibliography (PDF 87k)


Entire PDF (1.85 MB)

[gatorboy]

21. Here's an article on it to keep you warm at night.

http://usmilitary.about.com/library/weekly/aa102801a.htm

[gatorboy]

24. Here's an even odder article:

http://www.ledger-enquirer.com/mld/ledgerenquirer/news/local/3683920.htm?template=contentModules/printstory.jsp


Alabama activates tank unit as part of homeland defense

<snip>
A day after President Bush's release of a homeland defense strategy calling for the possible domestic use of U.S. military forces, Alabama activated a 300-soldier Army National Guard tank battalion as part of a homeland defense force.

In a statement released Wednesday, Alabama Gov. Don Siegelman said the Ozark, Ala.-based 1st Battalion, 131st Armor "is equipped with modern battle tanks, the M1A1 Abrams" and "will serve in the homeland defense role within the United States."

Asked if the armored battalion was deploying with its tanks and, if so, what role they would play in a domestic role, Guard spokesman Lt. Col. Robert Horton said: "That can't be discussed. It all will depend on the mission."

Though he said he could not provide specifics, Horton said the activation was not linked to Bush's quest for use of U.S. military forces on the home front.
<snip>

Ummm, so now they'll need to patrol America in tanks to fight terrorism? A domestic role that cannot be discussed?
Get ready for the gulag, kids!

[GreatCaesarsGhost]

25. sounds like gun the lobby's wet dream

"A well-regulated Militia being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms shall not be infringed."

[gatorboy]

26. Scarier still: America's Timothy McVeigh's will be the first to sign up.

EOM