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Barret Donating Member (183 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-09-04 05:14 PM
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Will there be exit polls in November?
Someone said on another thread we can know if the election is being stolen by comparing polls vs diebold.

If I remember correctly they eliminated exit polls in 2000. So I'm wondering - will there be exit polls in November? And is anything being done to make sure they aren't prevented from being taken?
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teryang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-09-04 05:17 PM
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1. Right, the VNS consortium failed to perform
...thanks to Battelle Memorial Institute, a bio weapons defense contractor, who "messed up" the "new software program."

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teryang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-09-04 05:18 PM
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2. No comment from the obeisant press
Edited on Mon Aug-09-04 05:19 PM by teryang
...on this weird occurence.

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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-09-04 05:19 PM
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3. Yes, but they will be Pravda-ized AP Exit Polls
AP, while not 100% Faux-style corrupt has a significant and powerful Bushevik Front Group within. It is quite obvious that the Busheviks long ago understood if they were going to Sovietize the media, AP would have to be their ground zero because AP is just about all small-town America gets in it's newspapers.

And you can bet your ass that a single organziation is easier to maniuplate and rig than the old six-=headed VNS.

Finally, AP has already demonstrated their Front-Group Loyalty already by firing off Bushevik Cunter-Polls, now a standard Pravda tactic the Busheviks use to sort of backfill the "close race" story every time a series of polls show Kerry with a solid lead.

Having an AP Exit Poll, which I predict will now ALWAYS agree with Impeial Tabulations and Electronic Stalin Tabulations, is as bad or worse than having no exit polling at all.

More illusions and Orwellian Lies to lul the Imperial Subjects into thinking they (we) are free.
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Barret Donating Member (183 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-09-04 05:22 PM
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4. So what you are saying is
they own the exit polls, and as such we are fu**ed?
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-09-04 05:42 PM
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6. Yes, however, please do NOT construe that as saying we should
give up.

NEVER GIVE UP!

What it means is that we must work twice as hard to flood the system with so many HONEST VOTES that theft is impossible.
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wurzel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-09-04 05:24 PM
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5. Exit Polls are a MUST. That's how we knew what went wrong in Florida.
The networks have apparently ended exit polls on the grounds that they were a problem in Florida. Actually the media, who now insist they got it wrong, know they got it right. It was the exit polls that raised the alarm about the count and how people actually voted. Exit polls are a must and everyone should insist on and cooperate with them.
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onecitizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-09-04 05:46 PM
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9. Absolutely true!
That was where I saw this going terribly wrong in FL in 2000. My Mom, who was 82 at the time, said she knew right then he had stole it. But then, she knew before the election he was gonna steal it thru FL. with jeb involved. She's blind but she can see.
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wurzel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-09-04 09:27 PM
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12. I bet she knew how to vote too. She'll get another chance. n/t
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TrustingDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-09-04 05:44 PM
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7. dumb question here
what Are exit polls?
Each individual station taking their count before the numbers go into the black hole?
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Stuckinthebush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-09-04 05:46 PM
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8. A poll of voters after the fact
Who did you vote for?

A stratified random sample gives a good indication of the overall results.

I think they are performed by phone and at the polling places, but I could be very wrong about that.
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bobbieinok Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-09-04 05:51 PM
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10. only the exit polls in FL2000 differed from the 'vote'
Edited on Mon Aug-09-04 05:51 PM by bobbieinok
in 2002 they claimed they couldn't do exit polls ---- problem with software?????

in the 50s/60s the 3 networks each did their own exit polling. One of them used the members of the League of Women Voters to track key precincts in each state.

I know this because my mom was in the League, and she talked about this.
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teryang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-09-04 10:51 PM
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13. Software problem courtesy Battelle
...major defense contractor.
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Yupster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-09-04 08:16 PM
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11. For exit polls to be reliable in 2004
some way has got to be figured to measure the absentee vote.

It used to be an insignificant number of ballots that could be ignored.

Today in some states, it can be over 1/3 of the total votes cast. For exit polls to be at all reliable, they're going to have to come up with a way to measure them, and the news guys are on a tight budget.
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