What do you think of the Move On ads? (hope this isn't a dupe)

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I just had a look at them. Powerful. Each one has a real person who is or was a Repub who voted for Bush last time and won't this time. Each one has the person talking about a specific issue with the present Admin.

I do, of course, have some criticism though;

I was very impressed and look forward to seeing them aired; I just wish there had been a few more women of varied backgrounds. (There were a couple "housewives", an elementary school teacher, a small business owner and a financial advisor.) There were far more men than women in the line up. No women of color. Quite a few "powerful" men, who spoke powerfully. The men represented a large variety of backgrounds, races, careers, age-groups.

The women all looked to be early-ish 40's and were white. Only one woman who stepped outside the "women's sphere" job stereotype: the financial advisor. She spoke factually and persuasively, pointing out clear instances of Bush rhetoric proven by Bush actions to be lies)--a few of the other women sounded whiny, like they were ready to cry, and talked based on feelings about nebulous ideas like "hope", "pride" or "respect"---now don't get me wrong, there is NOTHING WRONG with those concepts, and lord knows we need those emotions back in our lives, but I just wish I could have seen a few more women chosen for the ads who step out of the limited vision of directors who have frozen concepts of who women are and how we behave.

And so, this is my critique of the ads. Its my only negative view on it; otherwise I was very impressed and thrilled to see this work done. People SO need to see this.

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1. Well you just have to keep in mind that

they probably reflect the composition of the Republican party members as opposed to people who identify themselves as Democrats. More whites, more men, more women who are housewives, etc. To me its more effective to see ads with typical Republicans than people who you would think would be more likely to be Democrats.

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2. true point. I did think about that, but then I also thought about the many

R women in Gov't, Journalism, media, that we see or read about often. I dunno. Is it really that inconceivable to picture women who are old, or intellectual rather than emotional, or can speak without whining? Or black?

There are loads of women in management (well, middle-management anyway; let's not underestimate the glass ceiling) and in health care, research, IT ......

I just thought that the group of women was so homogenous, so stereotyped...after all, there were men who didn't represent the stereotypical R guy--even a male 6th grade teacher, and a Native American. I think those are people who very much step out of the stereotype, so clearly, the director is capable of looking outside the bounds of stereotyping. ( No Asians, though, now I think of it)

Yes, the intent of the ads is to move Repubs, who could be threatened by messages coming from outside their perceived world, but I still think that such an imbalance as far as women are concerned denotes a skewed idea of women on the part of the creators of the ad.

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4. another thought about the Baptist----

I was glad to see one woman who brought up that she is a Baptist but won't vote Bush. Good, the religious wingies who are such a strong component of Bush's followers need to be encouraged to open their eyes.

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3. I wish

they'd offer them in formats other than Quicktime.