Limbaugh says: Bush to invade Iran because it has nuke targeting Israel

[KoKo]

and that Kerry needs to be confronted about his problems with "sovereign nations which are terrorist states," because we are going to invade because Iran is also responsible for the oil prices being up because of their terrorist activities. He said that Bush has "overwhelming intelligence that will convince the American people when he goes to them, that this is what we must do, and Kerry will have to take a stand on this.

He also said we need to make "Falluja a parking lot." And that Sistani's heart problems are fake, they needed to get him out of the country because of his ties to Iran. :eyes:

(I'm not a Limbaugh listener, but my car radio scan got jammed and it stuck on Limbaugh when I was in traffic and couldn't get dial off his program. I'm glad I heard it though because this is either disinformation, or the new Repug plan for an October surprise. Maybe some of you Limbaugh listeners would know better than I whether we should be concerned about his statement) :shrug:

[JHB]

1. WOLF!

and I don't mean Blitzer.

[jackstraw45]

2. Limbaugh says: Can you score me some little blues?

Who cares what that jackass says....

I'd rather listen to nails on a chalkboard.

[physioex]

18. I would disagree...

I can tolerate El Drugbo to a certain level. I try and make it a point to listen to him, so I know the talking points.

[DaveFL99]

3. Yeah right !

"I'm not a Limbaugh listener, but my car radio scan got jammed and it stuck on Limbaugh when I was in traffic and couldn't get dial off his program"

Like I'm buying that

[WLKjr]

6. Know your enemy

Listen to their spew, and become more enlightened so that you can effectively counteract everything they say. It makes pre-emption easier for us Dems against the Republicans.

[jackstraw45]

8. I don't need to listen to that crap to be able to refute it....

We're not talking about listening in on secret Nazi cables here. It's a syndicated radio program that pays Limbaugh tens of MILLIONS a year because right AND LEFT wingers tune in.

I choose not to validate his "viewpoints" by not listening to them and spreading them around, even if he is our "enemy."

If a friend or family member mentions a political point I disagree with, I can easily refute it with facts. And I won't hear those facts from Rush.

[WLKjr]

13. I am not suggesting anyone submit themselves to that crap

and you don't have to validate any of his viewpoints, because they are all :hurts:

I listen from time to time just to see how the meds are affecting him :D

[DaveFL99]

16. That's why I listen to Bush.

[Eloriel]

28. Here's why you SHOULD listen to Limbaugh now and then

First, you'll get some inside scoops -- like this, which I find pretty alarming and frightening. It gives us a heads up on what the Bush administration might be up to next.

Second, you'll be able to identify the talking points as Linbaughisms when they appear HERE, or anywhere else. "Oh, thinking for yourself again, I see. I heard those exact points on Limbaugh just last Friday."

Finally, you'll have advance notice of what facts you need to line up in order to refute the rightwing spin-shit.

I don't listen to him all that often, only when I'm in my car when he's on AND psychically up to it (which is usually, but not always). But it's often quite worthwhile when I do. I recommend it heartily.

[Elidor]

60. Good points, Eloriel - But I can't take Limbaugh

Bad for the blood pressure, he is.

[Eloriel]

68. THAT I understand.

As I said myself, sometimes I can't take him either. :-)

[TexasBushwhacker]

75. I figure Air America will cover any MAJOR stupidity

from Rush, Faux, etc. I'm in the high BP club too, plus I'm afraid I'd have a wreck freaking out over his bullshit. Either that or get pulled over because I'm "that crazy lady that's screaming in her car even though she's by herself".

[WLKjr]

4. That would cause a shit storm

If that Invading Iran became part of the Oct. Suprise......holy Shiite clerics that would alone start the draft almost immediately.
Rush is bad for your brain.

[Richardo]

19. Great idea: invade ANOTHER Muslim country, right before Ramadan!

Genius!

Actually, it sounds EXACTLY like something the Bushies would do. :eyes:

[iconoclastic cat]

5. Here we go again.

What you heard, Koko, is the Repub platform for 2004-2008.

[Vickers]

7. Jesus, hasn't "overwhelming intelligence" gotten us into *enough* trouble?

:wtf:

When will these ignorant fucksticks LEARN?????

[wakfs]

9. Why would you even listen to that...

...useless crap?

[Julien Sorel]

10. Either Rush is back on the pills,

or this is part of some kind of disinformation plan. No other real country would go in with an attack on Iran, and the U.S. military is stretched too thin as it is. Iran is the size of Alaska, with a population of 70,000,000 people. Iraq is a problem to occupy? Iraq would be nothing compared to Iran, especially when you consider the population of Iran is relatively homogenous, so there's not much opportunity to play off one faction against the other, as there is in Iraq.

[DaveFL99]

17. What ?

you don't think they'd welcome us as liberators ? Throwing roses and all that ?

[ET Awful]

25. Well, unless "rose" is some kind of code for "RPG", then no. :) n/t

[tibbiit]

30. (I adore Al Green)

He is in the Pantheon of the Greatest of the Greats imo.
tib

[Julien Sorel]

32. He's right at the top for me, as well.

I kind of waffle between Green and Ray Charles, and James Brown when I'm in a hardcore mood. I hate sounding like an old fogey, but music that good simply isn't being made any more, although I do note with approval there are several highly talented performers in R&B/Soul these days.

[agincourt]

53. Remember though,

Whom our illegitimate commander in chief is, and how much he gets away with.

[Gman]

11. "August is a good time to roll out a new product"

Or probably this year, September.

[Racenut20]

12. If my car radio got stuck on that station in a traffic jam ???

I would probably abandon the car.

[Jim__]

65. Or maybe turn off the radio -n/t

[SPURGEMAN23]

14. They will try but

They have undercut the credibility of the intelligence community to protect their asses so much, that the "evidence" will not be considered reliable. Thus there will be no forcing of the dems to take their (con's) position. The Dems can argue their own position. There has not been enough time to fix the intelligence problems. I suspect that the Goss announcement will be used to help the credibility issue, but it is too late and not enough.


My opinion

[Cat Atomic]

15. That's just stupid.

First of all, the the US would never offer the protection of Israel as the sole cause for military action. That's not a good sell- especially with the anti-semitic elements of the Republican party.

Second, in the aftermath of the Iraq disaster, such a push would be political suicide for Bush.

And finally, we don't have the forces necessary to pull it off (a fact that Bush has made clear to everyone).

Rush is just stoned again.

[Jon8503]

20. Limbaugh's Show

I'll have to remember that excuse KoKo the next time I'm telling someone something I heard on his show, that the scanner got stuck. Yeah, I listen sometimes too until I can't take it anymore.

I bet there are plans to invade Iran sometime. Just wondering how they are going to do it. Haven't finished Afganistan, stuck in Iraq, not enough military personnel.

Can't believe anyone would just buy what they try to tell us again.

[KoKo]

71. Believe me on this...my car radio did stick..and I don't listen to him,

but thought what he said was important enough to post to find out from those here, who do try to catch him to see what the "dark side" says if they found it alarming or just something he's raving on about day after day.

I've been here a loooong time...Not a freeper. :D

[DebJ]

21. When I saw Bush at the York Pa rally, I said "He wants to go

into Iran so bad he can't stand it." Honestly, that was my impression. If Bush thinks he might lose in November, he will rush to execute as much of the PNAC plan as he can. And if he loses, then Kerry will be stuck with the clean up.

[KamaAina]

22. Limbaugh says: Bush* to invade moon because it has green cheese

That's the level of credibility we're dealing with here.

If it were a newspaper instead of radio show, you'd use it to line your cat box. Or maybe not.

[opihimoimoi]

41. Zero creds doth the man hath.....what can we say? ZERO, nada, nai

puka, empty, Zilch, etc.

[RebelYell]

23. Israel has nukes

Why can't Iran?

Honest question.

Let them blow each other up, who cares.

[physioex]

37. I am afraid you don't understand the complexity...

I think the Christian fundamentalists, AIPAC, defence lobby would care. Who do you think is giving billions of foregin aid to Israel in money and weapons?

So in conclusion you as an invidual might not care. But collectively as a whole I think this country would care greatly....And if you want a uphill battle try and challenge anyone one of those organizations. If you could get rid of them, the world would be a better place.

[aquart]

51. Which would result in getting rid of Israel, wouldn't it?

Look how many organizations you're hiding behind.

And if they're gone? The better place would be a world in which the Israelis had all had their throats slit?

Say what you really mean.

[physioex]

56. I mean...

That the most opressive regime in the middle east is Israel. While the Palestinians are forced into humiliantion to live on handouts. Do they have any WMD's, Army, or Air Force? The Israelis already have money yet they live of welfare from the taxpayers of this country. Not mention the latest in military weapons like the Apache Gunships, Jet Fighters, and M1 Tanks.

Bottom line is that I care for Israel's welfare as much as I do the Palestinians. And the more they oppress, the more they are going to lose....

[lanparty]

77. I don't think so ...

Israel is a Democracy counting a great deal of Palestinians as it's citizens. The regimes in Saudi Arabia and Kuwait are WAY more oppresive.

BTW, Israel doesn't have a corner on abusing Palestinians. No one else in the region likes them either. The only reason the Palestinians are relevant in the region is that they're a convenient issue to redirect the hatred of their people away from totalitarian governments and ONTO Jewish folk.

I'm not saying Palestinians don't deserve sympathy or a homeland. I'm saying that the Arabs don't care about those things. They only care about Palestinians so far as it's an issue to beat up on Israel.

[physioex]

79. Ok...

Fine I can agree. But I still can't stand the fact that this country still spends billions on Israel because of all the lobbies. I am sure the governments of the middle east engage in all types of opressive activities. But I am sure that if this country stopped funding Israel, it would go a long ways in removing much of the resentment the masses of the middle east feel towards this country.

[The Backlash Cometh]

24. You want a laugh? Ask Bush to define "sovereign nation."

It's a not so inside joke.

[BiggJawn]

26. Oh, GAWD, he's on the Oxycontin again!

And really got a buzz going, from the sounds of things.....

[leesa]

27. Israel has hundreds of nukes pointing at her neighbors

but her neighbors are not allowed to defend themselves.

[aquart]

48. Possibly you have missed the nuke point.

The nuke point is DETERRANCE. See, you may not have noticed, but Israel is a teeny tiny postage stamp of a nation with not terribly many people even though the ones who didn't die in the last suicide bombing are jammed into the itsy bitsy space.

Israel is bordered by GREAT BIG NATIONS: Syria, Iran, Egypt.....get a map. They're big. Israel is minute. They have tens of millions in population. Israel doesn't.

Those GREAT BIG nations can take it into their heads at any moment to walk into Israel and simply murder from one end to another.

EXCEPT FOR THE NUKES.

Which nation is defending itself? Which nation knows how weak it is and understands that one second, one millisecond of lax vigilance leads to mass death? How many Israelis have blown up buses in Iran?

Is Iran shaking in its boots over the thought of an Israeli invasion? Is it? Is it horribly worried over the thought? Does Syria expect Israelis to come pouring over the border? Yet, I hear they are still nukeless. Why aren't they worried?

WHICH nation is defending itself?

[justjones]

58. Um, although Israel is in fact smaller, the last I checked it's remarkably

able to defend itself against all of its neighbors thanks to the billions of dollars and military aid the United States gives to it each year. It may be small, but Israel is hardly the weak one in the region.

[w4rma]

29. Rush Limbaugh is smoking crack. That crap he says is totally insane. (nt)

[CaTeacher]

31. OHH NO!

If we declare war on Iran--I just don't think I can take the stress. Please let this just be the typical hateful garbage that spews from Limbaugh--this cannot be true--I cannot stand to even think about us wrongfully bombing another nation.

[Kanary]

50. Stress, indeed. :((((((((( I've tried not to think about it,

but the whispering campaign of the last few weeks was just tooooo suspicious.

Got any plans for Armageddon?

:hug:

Kanary

[in_cog_ni_to]

33. No surprise if you've read the PNAC

agenda. They are right on schedule. :grr:

[soothsayer]

34. He could be right. We do whatever Israel wants us to, like invading Iraq

We are Sharon's puppet!

[opihimoimoi]

35. Bush will get confused and invade Tonga thinking they got Coconuts of MD

[KamaAina]

45. Careful! He might decide to invade Hawai'i instead!

Cheney: "Uh, George, Hawai'i is actually a state of the U.S."

Bush*: "Huh?"

Cheney: "It's been a state since 1959. You know, just like Texas, or Connecticut, or Massachusetts..."

Bush*: "Or Mexico?"

Cheney: (bangs head against wall)

[opihimoimoi]

69. Clearly the man is challenged....his crew gatta be going bonkers with

frustrations.....

"He just don't get it" :group wall banging with heads:

[KoKo]

36. Kick

:kick:

[DeepModem Mom]

38. With what army? n/t

[opihimoimoi]

39. And just suppose the Iranians Nuke is set to go?

Meaning by invading they set the sucker off and Blow up Israel then retaliation and re retaliation and the whole region goes up...is that what we want?

We do?

We get to keep both Nations?

By Reason of Occupation?

Possession is 9/10s of the Law?

[K-W]

40. If they actually had a nuke, we would never touch them.

Thats one of the major reasons they want one.

[opihimoimoi]

42. Then its a race?

[K-W]

55. We are the aggressors here.

It would be much easier to convince them to step down attempts if they didnt feel like they were going to be the next Iraq.

Iraq didnt even have WMD's and we still attacked them. If you were Iran, what would you do?

[opihimoimoi]

72. Make a small nuke and test it.....

[aquart]

49. So true. Bullies don't pick on the big boys.

Bush doesn't pick on the big boys.

[ItsMyParty]

43. Bush would never bring this up BEFORE the election.........

..it just brings up the whole issue of "bad intelligence", "lying to the people", "ignoring the world community", etc. It's a loser for him. The people are trying to get their kids home from Iraq; they would turn against him---military families would turn big time. BUT, I do believe and always did that this is what he will propose on the day after the elections if he wins (and maybe even if he doesn't win). And then we will hear the words D R A F T float over the land and we will watch all the moms and dad who voted for the "family values" man look at their kid and scream "not my kid---send those kids of the 'nothings' to die". George has a lot of surprises in store for the fools who follow him.

[KoKo]

76. But, what if he says he and Blair have huge intelligence of Iran's plot to

target Israel? The RW Armageddonists would go bonkers with joy thinking of thwarting a plot, and that's his base which he needs to pump up. Plus, there are many supporters of Israel in the US who would be very upset about Iran lobbing a nuke and he would appeal to those same folks that support PNAC.

I think he could do it. He could make up a threat with Blair (whose in trouble according to Brit Press with his Labour Party and say they have broken up a terror cell which is saying that plans are in the works for Israel.

Maybe Sharon would back him up? Why else would Oxycontin say that he "knew there were plans on Bush's desk?" (that's pretty much an exact quote)

[Deja Q]

44. Why? Isreal has nukes, let them defend themselves! We've done enough!!

Enough of the wrong things, anyway...

[Postman]

46. After the Iraq fiasco, who would believe Bush? answer-nobody with a brain.

n/t

[Kanary]

47. And we're in the process of electing another *lite DEm senator,

who supported the Iraq war.

So, you can probably count on Colorado to go for this one, also.

Crap-a-rama.

No surprise, but ......

Kanary

[against all enemies]

52. He also said they found nukes in Iraq. HE IS A LYING ASSHOLE!!!

Why even mention him, he has no credibility.

[Disturbed]

57. No permission required.

The bombers can go in and destroy the nuke facilities. I have read that Iran has missle defense and an air force so it might get a bit dicey for the US Air Strike force. Guess the US could use missles from ships but Iran has a Navy, as well.

[KoKo]

64. That's my hope...that we are so over extended and Iran would be out of

what we could deal with given the Implosion of Iraq...but Limbaugh was very adament, and I've watched enough of the PNAC'ers on C-Span to know that Iran was always the next target to be very afraid that Limbaugh's info came from Rove, and it was to prepare his listeners for "the next step" in the "war on terrorism."

I found what he said alarming...but since I'm not a usual listener of his, I posted hoping some folks could give me a different scenario...

Thanks.

[Strelnikov_]

54. Could It Be That He Is Priming The Base

Considering he is part of the propaganda arm of the administration.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x2190260

[KoKo]

59. This article from the "Guardian" is very interesting...I'm not sure what

it all means...but I was really "creeped out" by that stuff from Limbaugh.

My take: He was putting out Repug/PNAC agenda. And, that THIS invasion of Iran would be the true "October Surprise" and not another "risky political Terrorist Attack like 9/11."

IOW, that Bush would do an "Address to the Nation" sometime in October saying that there are "Grave Intelligence Reports...verified by other intelligence agencies that Iran is preparing an attack on Israel in retaliation to America who has been interfering with Iranian affairs and this threat is of "gravest danger."

"Therefore (according to Shrub) we have decided it's in the interests of America and our Homeland Security to target Iran's Nuclear Making Facility and tonight we will commence a targeted "take out" of this facility. We have made all efforts to minimize "collateral damage" but we must emphasize that Iran's ability to target Isreal with a singular nuclear weapon was our purpose in defying these militant, Muslim extremists, and we will do whatever it takes to make sure that Democracy
and Freedom come to the Middle East.

Tonight I say to you the "world and the Homeland are safer places because of our strategic bombing of this nuclear facility which would have destablized the whole Middle East and in particular attacked one of our oldest and most trustworthy allies in the region.

We expect that tonight's targeting of Iran's Weapons of Mass Destruction will make all peoples in the free world understand that America support Justice and Freedom all over the world, and those nations or sovereign states who don't understand and respect our policies will be taken to task on this. WE WILL NOT TOLERATE TERRAIST THREATS to AMERICAN INTEREST WHILE I AM COMMANDER IN CHIEF."

Thank you and God Bless America...

Sign off and goodnight from the Emperor/Dictator/Caligula

[Strelnikov_]

61. If He Is Going To Give That Speech Sometime In October

he had better get to work learning how to pronounce 'nuke-ler'. October is less than two months off you know.

[KoKo]

66. Yeah, but is he "priming the base" or "clueing in the base for the next

step?" That was my big worry. He's a "stovepipe" from Rove/Cheney and so what he says is usually their talking points. Was he prepping his base that the "war on terror" needs to be extended or just bloviating?

What he said that I tried to post made me feel we needed to know this whether it's bloviating or real "talking points" it's what they might be preparing for Kerry and us. :shrug:

Thanks for your link...I'll check out that thread from DU that you linked.

[KoKo]

67. BTW...this quote from Guardian, doesn't mess around...here...quote:

The US will ask a meeting of the International Atomic Energy Agency on September 13 to declare Iran in breach of the nuclear non-proliferation treaty, a prelude to seeking punitive UN sanctions.

Iran's insistence that it seeks nuclear power, not weapons, is scoffed at in Washington. John Bolton, the hawkish US under-secretary of state for arms control, says there is no doubt what Tehran is up to. He has hinted at using military force should the UN fail to act. "The US and its allies must be willing to deploy more robust techniques" to halt nuclear proliferation, including "the disruption of procurement networks, sanctions and other means". No option was ruled out, he said last year.

[Q]

62. Thousands of chronic pain sufferers can't get their meds...

...because of drug abusers like Rush. He should be in jail instead of having such influence on our political system.

[KoKo]

63. Q, as you know, they SHOULD ALL BE IN JAIL! but they aren't...Excuse

my shouting to you...but you and I both know that no one has been held accountable for anything, so far.

Whatever trash was coming from Limbaugh's mouth that I heard today (and as I said, I never listen to him, and wouldn't have if car radio hadn't jammed on me) whatever I heard today sent chills down my spine that this is the new Repug way to dig themselves out of Plame/Chalabi stuff which is coming down on their heads fast and furious.

Put this together with the Bush nomination of Porter Goss for CIA head and that few Dems have spoken up about him...then you can see why I was "freaked out" about Limbaugh. Also, we know that PNAC'ers have been targeting Iran as the "next step" of "Peace and Democracy in the Middle East" and how easy it would be for THIS to be the OCTOBER SURPRISE..This might be a better way than letting or perpetrating a terrorist attack here in the US, which might backfire on them for NOT keeping us safe.


I hope I over-reacted to Limbaugh..but knowing that he and Bush gotta keep the Religious Right base fed...then Iran and the threat to Israel (Armageddon/Revelations) just seems such a perfect fit for Bush/Cheney/Rove that I was shaking when I got home and that's why I posted hoping that Limbaugh listeners might tell me I was over-reacting and there's NO WAY..

Q, you and I come from the same place in our thoughts on politics (at least from what I read in your posts here on DU) and...it's worrysome. :shrug:

[Strelnikov_]

70. Fareed Thinks Iran Is In The On Deck Circle

Iran: The Next Crisis
By Fareed Zakaria
Wash Post
Tuesday, August 10, 2004; Page A19

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A52955-2004Aug9.html

"John Kerry's repeated pledge to restore relations with U.S. allies has struck a chord. The trouble is, if he is elected president, Kerry is going to find that promise hard to keep -- at least with America's allies in Europe. Most of them would be delighted to see Kerry win, but that doesn't mean they will be more cooperative on policy issues."

...

"The threat to the United States from Iraqi weapons of mass destruction, if they ever existed, is in the past. Iran, on the other hand, is the problem of the future. Over the past two years, thanks to tips from Iranian opposition groups and investigations by the International Atomic Energy Agency, it has become clear that Iran is seeking to develop nuclear weapons. In the words of the agency, Iran has "a practically complete front-end of a nuclear fuel cycle," which leads most experts to believe it is two to three years away from having a nuclear bomb."

...

"The powerful Iranian politician Ali Akbar Hashemi Rafsanjani has publicly speculated about a nuclear exchange with Israel. If Iran's program went forward, at some point Israel would almost certainly try to destroy it with airstrikes, as it did on Iraq's reactor in Osirak. Such an action would, of course, create a massive political crisis in the region."

[KoKo]

74. Oh S**T! Zakaria is cautioning Europe in this article to get involved

before there's a crisis. Fareed Zakaria is a voice of reason on the ME and if he's concerned then he knows what he's talking about because he's hearing "the chatter."

His solution is to start a "dialog" and he says Europe will get engaged with Iran if we do.

The only thing that bugs me is that why shouldn't we believe that evidence that Iran is planning nukes to strike Israel is as hyped up and false as what the Chalabi's told us about Iraq?

As an anti-Iraq Invasion "on the street protestor" I have a hard time believing this stuff about the whole ME trying to "take out Israel" and that the could do it or would do it, or that they have anything near capable to do it.

It's some kind of PNAC obsession, imho...but as I said, I was violently opposed to the Iraq Invasion and it turned out it was all lies. How many more lies should we be asked to take as truth?

And, I hate this attitude of "Well, now that we are in Iraq lets just move over the borders into the rest of the countries" because ALL of them may be "INTENDING" to try to purchase materials for WMD.

Sheesh...aside from the fact that we can't afford this endless war, how can we be honorable when we've been fed so many lies? :shrug:

[lanparty]

73. excellent plan from a junkie ...

Hmmm... we'll invade a country with a Nuclear missle pointed at an ally. Hmmmmm.....

Well, you don't have to be a genious to understand why we CANNOT invade a country with a nuclear device. Thats kinda why they're so "in demand" lately.

Besides, we simply don't have the capability to invade Iraq at this time. It would most DEFINITELY require a draft for another pointless, stupid engagement.

If Iran was that close to having a nuke, Israel would have already bombed out the site.

[bluestateguy]

78. Israel can fight their own wars

They're big boys. They can do it all by themselves. We are little busy right now.

[robertpaulsen]

80. Kick

:kick: