Calling all DU'ers from Venice, FL

[RebelYell]

Is Goss your Congressman?

I'm working on a tinfoil theory.

[freetobegay]

1. He lives in my back yard!

So he must be my Congressman.

[Minstrel Boy]

4. Yoiks!

on edit: meant this to be a reply to the original post.

Speaking of Venice, have you read Hopsicker's latest?

Terror Suspect Linked to Moroccan Defense Attache

Daniel Hopsicker
Aug 10 2004-Venice,FL

Just 15 months before the 9/11 attack a 26-year old Moroccan man whose name and multiple aliases appears on numerous terrorist watch lists created a new Florida Corporation with a partner who is the Chief Military Attaché for the Moroccan Embassy in Washington, DC. On June 30, 2000, just as Atta and Al-Shehhi began flight training at Huffman Aviation, Mohammed Arara and Colonel Ahmed Arara, the Military Attaché of the Embassy of the Kingdom of Morocco, joined with a third man, “Joseph El Sheik,” to incorporate Titim Holdings, Inc. with the Florida Department of Corporations. "Titim" is a verb in Gaelic, we discovered. It means "to fall down." The Moroccan military official and his two Arab companions had just launched "Falling Down Inc."

...

In addition to being business partners, Colonel Ahmed Arara and Mohammed Arara, whose family relationship, if any, remains unknown, also share the same home address. According to documents filed with the state of Florida both men used the same address in Atlantis, FL. and another in Lake Worth, FL.

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Three of the addresses on the Terrorist Watch List for suspected terrorist pilot Mohammed Arara also lead back to a mysterious German national named Guido Pascal Schreier, 32, who spearheaded the recruiting efforts in Europe of the Dutch-owned flight schools in Venice, FL., and his wife, Sandra Hamouda, a French-Tunisian woman who took over the flight school at Charlotte County Airport when it went bankrupt in February 2001, stranding dozens of foreign flight students, most of whom were Moroccan or Tunisian.

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Are the previously-hidden connections between terror suspect Mohammed Arara, Morocco’s Chief Military Attaché Colonel Ahmed Arara, and German "recruiter" Guido Pascal Schreier proof of the presence of a shadowy global network which also had a role in supporting the terrorists? Are we looking at the "semi-official" network associated with the 9/11 attack that FBI whistleblower Sibel Edmonds has alleged is being protected from exposure by the FBI and State Department?

More here:
http://www.madcowprod.com/mc6412004.html


Third from left: Colonel Arara - Moroccan Defense Attaché, pre-9/11 business partner in Florida's "Falling Down Inc. Holdings" with a suspected terrorist of the same name and residence - meets with Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld in the Pentagon, January 8, 2004.

[RebelYell]

5. OHHHHHHHH, thank you ! n/t

[Zorra]

8. Holy sh*t! That's scary. And it looks like Katherine Harris and Goss

have a mutual admiration club.

November 16, 2000

Rep. Porter Goss, R-Sanibel, complained that Harris was being unfairly maligned because the election dispute in Florida "has gotten to be a blood sport."

http://www.evote.com/index.asp?Page=/news_section/2000-11/11162000Harris.asp

06/04/04

U.S. Rep. Katherine Harris, R-Fla., also emphatically endorsed Goss. Harris, in fact, credited Goss for inspiring her to pursue a political career.

"When I met Porter, I had just interned in Congress. I was disillusioned," Harris said.
snip-------

"No one was better prepared to chair the intelligence committee," Harris added. "Plus, he's so deeply admired and respected by members on both sides of the aisle."

http://sun-herald.com/NewsArchive2/060404/tp4ch20.htm?date=060404&story=tp4ch20.htm

VENICE -- Officials in Indiana and Washington say they're dumbfounded by a statement U-S Representative Katherine Harris of Sarasota made about a terrorist plot to blow up a power grid in Indiana.

During a speech to 600 people Monday in Venice, Harris either shared a closely held secret or passed along second-hand information as fact.

http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/local/florida/sfl-80404harris,0,7701258.story?coll=sfla-news-florida

An endorsement by Cruella DeVotestealer should make anyone suspicious of Goss. And what could have possessed her to make that statement about a terrorist plot?

[DoYouEverWonder]

2. OMG, Mohamad Atta!

The flight school in Venice? Goss met with the Pakistani head of Intel on 9-11.

[RebelYell]

3. Bingo!

Thanks!

[midwayer]

6. Hopsicker has the best theory I've seen

I'm not sure he specifically mentions Goss, although he may in his writings or previous articles.

Goss has a place on Sanibel Island about 60 or so mi south of Venice andPunta Gorda, On the coast by Ft. Myers

Are some reading links

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x2192401#2192554

[RebelYell]

7. Thanks for the info

I adore Hopsicker and I've been waiting for his August update with baited breath. I think he's onto the truth.

[midwayer]

9. Yebel,,his August update

looks like it was released today

Aug 10 2004-Venice,FL.
by Daniel Hopsicker

http://www.madcowprod.com/index.html

Edit: I see Minstrel Boy already posted it

sorry

[RebelYell]

10. And it just arrived in my email - thanks again

Is Florida a 3rd world country or what??? Don't the cops and the FBI investigate anything down there? Hopsicker is a man with limited funds, and he's able to come up with more on 9/11 than our entire gov't.

Edit to correct error

[midwayer]

11. Don't miss this one

Don't miss this one I just picked up off of the latest breaking news thread

has some info regarding mysterious dead bodies

http://inn.globalfreepress.com/modules/news/article.php?storyid=485

[Minstrel Boy]

12. Hopsicker is virtually alone doing this work.

He treats Florida like a crime scene, does the foot work and has made startling discoveries, which are corroborated by much of what Sibel Edmonds is saying from a totally different perspective.

More people need to discover his work. I hope some with deep pockets.

[midwayer]

13. Here is an interview

he did just recently

scroll about halfway down the page

http://www.breakfornews.com/

He mentions that he would like to see a few nationally renouned investigators get invloved. When asked about being worried for his safety the thought was that, hopefully, with the documentation out there now he is safer than he was when he first started and was getting death threats. He hired a body gaurd to do his original filming.

[RebelYell]

15. I can't listen - I have dial up

:-(

He has films?

[midwayer]

16. Yes DVD's

I think in the interview he said he was in Arkansas at the time when he hired the bodygaurd.

The interview doesn't really give any more detail than what you can read at his site. Mainly makes the point of the drug smuggling ring.

I'm concerned about these 23 helicopters stolen that he now mentions in his latest.

Didn't we just get a warning about terrorist's using helicopters?

BUSTED

[RebelYell]

17. Yep, terror warning yesterday about helicopters n/t

[RebelYell]

14. Agreed

He's being sued - here's the quote from his website:

"We're being sued by Michael Roy Fugler, who's going to tell us everything he knows about Adnan Khashoggi when we ask him questions during our deposition."

So he's taking on Khashoggi - Hopsicker is fearless. Buy his books. He's one of us.

[midwayer]

18. Check this out

pulled this one off of LBN too

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=102&topic_id=739904&mesg_id=740171&page=

Prime Suspect of the Largest Mass Murder in U.S. Nominated to Head C.I.A.

http://www.communitycurrency.org/Prime.html

[RebelYell]

19. This says it all.....

"If there were honest, investigative newspapers in the U.S., this would be the appropriate headline, however in our Orwellian world, there is scant critical information published regarding the dubious history, associations, behavior of someone who should be under criminal investigation, rather than nominated to head the largest covert operations center in the world."

[Pallas180]

20. Thanks REB

I moved a lot of it over to Plame Indictments.

blockbusters.

[hedda_foil]

21. Nasty, nasty stuff in your link.

According to Al Martin, in 1983 Goss was involved in Iran-Contra profiteering with Jeb and Neil Bush’s Destin Country Club development fraud – a fraud out of which he made about $3 million illegally. He then became involved with Carlos Cardoen and Swissco Management, and the fraud that Swissco Management committed, not only in Florida, but throughout the United States, in those so-called illicit 'tax-swap deals,' which Senator Bob Graham of Florida also profited in.

"You could compare it to the crime family where the soldier rises from the street to become the capo, which has taken the hits over the years for his superiors in the organization," Martin continues. "Of course, unlike an organized crime family, the difference between the Bushonian Cabal and your average, run-of-the-mill organized crime family is that the Cabal controls, not only the entire nation, but influences policy throughout the planet. They are above all laws and impervious to any action.” <4>

More ominous is the concern that the Bush Cabal is scared and just might try to pull another 9/11<5> to further their dark agenda and nullify even a remote hope for an election. The psychological operations are underway, scaring the country into bracing itself for the next attack. In true fascist fashion, a new coalition of corporate/government/media leaders have launched a website that boldly asserts- “The America Prepared Campaign …utilizes the expertise and energy of national leaders in emergency preparedness, media, marketing, government, and business to support.. the work already begun by the Department of Homeland Security Ready Campaign … to give Americans useful recommendations for preparing… for a terrorist attack.”<6>

Goss has warned publicly that the F.B.I. isn’t capable of preventing more attacks, and has alluded to the value of the Madrid attacks to promote a more favorable climate for the international cooperation against “terrorist threats.” Just who benefits from these threats and attacks, besides arms dealers, the transnational elite, and the architects of the “global security state”? Certainly not your average American, nor the vast majority of people worldwide, but Goss is most likely not terribly concerned about them.