Michael Moore New Album with Roger Waters!

[DrWho]

Roger Waters, the former bass player with rock band Pink Floyd, is protesting against President Bush and the war in Iraq by contributing two songs to an album being compiled by Michael Moore, the film-maker. The songs attack America's Religious Right and allude to "bigots and buly boys" in the US Administration. The Times (UK) 10 Aug

http://www.rogerwatersontour.com/main.htm

Roger last week as well.....

Roger launches the 'Writings on the Wall' campaign. Roger has joined the protest about the wall, built by Israel, cutting through the occupied territories. He signed an 8 ft tall mock up of the wall (Pictured) “we don’t need no thought control”. Read more at War On Want (Thanks to Mark)

[Birthmark]

1. It's one stop shopping for the disaffected.

Count me in. :)

[King_Crimson]

2. This is outstanding indeed...

I personally had lost all respect for Waters when he shunned his former bandmates in Pink Floyd in the mid '80's and tried...unsuccessfully...to disolve the Pink Floyd name. If only Waters would get off his ego trip and at least speak with the other three Floyd members (something he hasn't done since the mid '80's), a possible reunification with them would be the greatest thing to happen to the music world in ages!
To Roger's credit, he still manages to come up with new music(as songwriter and lyricist for Floyd he was basically their life's blood) and tours quite frequently while Messrs. Gilmour, Wright and Mason have faded away into obscurity. Indeed, without Roger Waters, Pink Floyd just kinda limped along with a few meager releases after his departure, but now seem to have gone by the wayside.
Don't get me wrong, I hold Pink Floyd in the highest regard, having seen them live 3 times...'73, '77, and '94. If Waters is going to launch a tirade against the Fascist element that is destroying America, he should at least invite his former bandmates along for the ride. These guys put on a show unmatched by anyone in rock music...and the thought of a Pink Floyd re-union and large scale stadium tour against the Bush administration gives me goosebumps.

[DrWho]

3. While I hated the Breakup

Roger has indeed proved that, creatively, Pink Floyd was dead back then.

Roger will be posting 3 of these news songs @ rogerwaters.com in the next couple of days, for free.

While I saw Floyd without Roger and enjoy Gilmours guitar work, Roger has always been the man, and his last live Tour was really good as well.

[King_Crimson]

4. Now would be a perfect time...

to re-introduce the masses to the "Animals" album! That was the tour I saw in '77 at Soldier Field in Chicago...complete with gigantic flying pig above the stadium! That album didn't have a lot of meaning back then...but it sure does now...proving that those guys were far, far ahead of their time!

[DrWho]

5. while I missed that tour

Far too young to see the Animals tour, but I do have some boots, that particular Soldier Field show was legendary.

I lived in Chicago most of my life and heard much about that show, and saw some of the Posters for the event etc.

Do you have the Waters Solo Album -Amused to Death?
Very relevant to our times as well.

[DrWho]

6. some more info

http://www.rogerwatersonline.com/bridgehampton/interview_in_hampton_jitney.htm

[King_Crimson]

7. Only Waters album I have...

is "In the Flesh". I bought it at Hastings Books and Music when they were going out of business...for $5.00...three years ago. Now heres the catch, I haven't even opened the cd yet. As you can probably tell, my disgust with Waters for jumping ship runs very deep, but if this new project comes to fruition, that may all change!
There were 100,000 people, possibly more at that '77 show in Chicago. Obviously all the seating was taken and I was down on the playing field where you could hardly move around. Tickets for that show were like 10.60 AND I still have my stub! It was a very hot, very stoned June night!

[DrWho]

8. .Howlin

Howlin, get over the hate and get Amused to Death.

It's a political barn stormer, and sounds more Floydish then anything the other guys have put out.

Do it!! You won't regret it, I promise.

[DrWho]

10. Hey you

Hey you White House
Ha Ha Charade you are...

[SheepyMcSheepster]

11. it is a great album.

"what god wants, god gets"

[skygazer]

13. Howlin' you need to mellow out on this

Pink Floyd were the greatest band of all time in my opinion but if Roger Waters wants nothing to do with the others, that's his business. People grow, change, move on, have creative differences. Life does not end. Now go put on a set of headphones, slide "Wish You Were Here" into the CD player and relax...............

Personally, I'm delighted he's weighing in on this. I'd wondered when he was going to speak up. "Amused To Death" speaks more than once about Poppy's little adventure in the Gulf.

[psychopomp]

9. Animals is a great LP

I wore the tape out on that cassette back around the time I saw PF in ...uh, 92? 91? It isn't easy to remember but it was the second tour of the new band (sans RW).

Back to "Animals," I always found it to be profoundly insightful, disturbing and provocative. It was one that you couldn't listen to very often, though, as with most PF; it's too heavy.

An anti-Bushco. PF tour would round off the recent improbable madness quite nicely.

[King_Crimson]

16. I would almost guarantee that if Roger Waters...

would take his rightful place back in the band where he belongs and said band would embark on a tour, especially a tour to help bring down the spread of Fascism that seems to have taken hold in the US, every show in every major arena in this country would sell-out. If they would play a week at each venue, you could probably guarantee a nightly sell-out! Bring on "The Dogs of War"!

[DrWho]

17. but

"especially a tour to help bring down the spread of Fascism that seems to have taken hold in the US, every show in every major arena in this country would sell-out."

David Gilmour doesn't care about politics and such. That's where the two are majorly different.

[King_Crimson]

19. I Beg to Differ...

The Dogs of War
D.J. Gilmour/A. Moore 1986

Dogs of War and men of hate,
With no cause we don't discriminate,
Discovery is to be disowned,
Our currency is flesh and bone,
Hell opened up and put on sale,
Gather round and haggle,
For hard cash we will lie and decieve,
Even our masters don't know the web we weave,

One world, it's a battleground,
One world and we will smash it down,
One world...one world

Invisible transfers, long distance calls,
Hollow laughter in marble halls,
Steps have been taken a silent uproar,
Has unleashed the Dogs of War,
You can't stop what has begun,
Signed sealed they deliver oblivion,
We all have a dark side to say the least,
And dealing in death is the nature of the beast,

One world, it's a battleground,
One world and we will smash it down,
One world...one world

The Dogs of War don't negotiate,
The Dogs of War won't capitulate,
They will take and you will give,
And you must die, so that they may live,
You can knock at any door but wherever you go,
You know they've been there before,
Well winners can lose and things can get strained,
But whatever you change you know the dogs remain,

One world, it's a battleground,
One world and we will smash it down,
One world...one world

From the first post-Waters era album circa 1987..."A Momentary Lapse of Reason". A good album indeed, but weak in spots due to obvious reasons! :-)

[DrWho]

20. the most stiking part

The Dogs of War
D.J. Gilmour/A. Moore 1986---

AMLOR was written by over 20 people, that's not Floyd.

Floyd was 4 members.

Waters wrote all the lyrics and came up with the story.

Gilmour sucks at writting lyrics.
So much so, Polly, his wife, wrote a lot on the next album.

Gilmour is clueless on politics.

[King_Crimson]

23. Look...if you are a Waters fan...

you have to considered a "Floydian". You won't get an argument outta me that without him...Floyd just isn't Floyd. I don't know what went on between the 4 of them to cause them to part ways, but I do remember reading somewhere that Waters made the remark that Pink Floyd, in his view "were a spent force creatively." That remark right there turned me, and other old die-hard Floyd fans I know, against him! He literally threw Nick Mason and Rick Wright out of the band prior to recording "The Final Cut", which I view as Floyd's worst album. I have no idea why Gilmour even stuck around, and you can hear how lackluster his performance is on that album!
Whatever the differences, those guys are all approaching 60 years old, (and I'm not far behind them) they should try to mend the fences, if nothing else but for the sake of who they once were...and how powerful and heavy a weight the name Pink Floyd will carry on in the annals of music history.
Keep in mind my friend, I was listening to them while co-founder Syd Barrett was still the lead player ("See Emily Play" "Careful with that Axe Eugene"). Poor Syd went on a "trip", and never returned, thus opening the door for Dave Gilmour, who I rever to this day as the greatest guitarist ever.

[psychopomp]

24. A friend in High School struck up a correspondence

with Syd. At the time he was living with his mother, iirc, and was getting over the loss of his son. I don't know if any of this is factual or if I am unable to get the story straight due to the length of time that has passed since then.

[AmerDem]

12. Waters was more then "the former bass player with rock band Pink Floyd"

he was Pink Floyd!

[skygazer]

14. Amen!!

[Kazak]

15. Whoa! That's something.

Also of interest on there...Hal (Roger's son) joins Ozric Tentacles. Wow.

[RandomKoolzip]

18. That's odd....

Considering the storm of controversy that brewed here on DU last year when Waters was talking to interviewers about voting Tory (i.e. conservative).

I remember myself getting angry that a musician I worshipped when I was younger, who (with Animals, The Wall and The Final Cut,) had profoundly informed my political views with a hefty dose of pacifism, had turned conservative.

I'm glad to hear he's come to his senses.

[noise626]

21. When the Cold Wind Blows....

Okay, where do I stand in line for this?

Mr. Waters is the closest thing I have to an "idol". If fact, he is the primary reason why I got into music composition. And with Moore tossed into the mix, I am now boinging.

:bounce:


I had read an interview in a magazine recently where he spoke of the remaster of The Final Cut (his last album with PF) and of how tolatarian the US had gotten as of late. Even mentioned the whole controversy of Bill Mahrer and how he got dumped from his show on ABC.

pax
ant

Ooooh, the lonely boys
In their towers of faith
Ooooh, the lonely boys
Locked in their towers of faith

The prophet reclined
On the Golan Heights

Ohhh, the lonely boys

He said, this land is my land
To the Shiites

Ooooh, the lonely boys

And Jehova looked up from the sea of Galilee beneath
He said, I see you, you thief
This land is my land
And this sand is my sand
And this band is my band
Oh the lonely boys
Lookin' over their shoulder
Checkin out every boulder in the park
Where the gates are closed from hate
After dark

And the Pope rolled up in his armored van
He fell on his knees and kissed the land
He said something that I did not understand
It was in polish
Then up stepped an aide
He said, I will translate
Here is what His Holiness said:
'I am the Chief Jesuit.'
'This land is Jesus' land.'
'And that is all'
'All that there is to it.'
Hail Mary
Mother of God

And in New York City
The business man in his mohair suit
In the world trade center
Puffs on his cheroot
And he said,
Well I don't care who owns the desert sands
My brief
Is with the hydrocarbons underneath
And the sea of battle rages
Around the ancient tombs
And mother nature licks her wounds
And the lonely boys locked in their towers of faith
Who are nervous in the park
When the gates are closed after dark
Ooooh, the lonely boys
In their towers of faith
Ooooh, the lonely boys
Locked in their towers of faith

[DrWho]

22. i;m a huge waters fan

been that way for over 20 years now!