The Devil you say!

[Cleita]

Yes, Bush and the Republicans have made me a believer. Whereas I was once a cool thinking, fact seeking, scientific method loving type of person, a person who needs proof to accept the existence of an idea, they finally made me believe that Satan does in fact exist and that Hell is very real. I have faith that these outlaws and criminals who are ruining our lives and our country have been helped along by the angels of darkness under their master Lucifer to usher in a new dark age.

I can’t explain what is happening to us in any other way. After reading “The Despoiling of America” on the Yurika Report, , about Dominionism and the people in high places who are involved in this movement, along with Pat Robertson, to create a Christian state in place of our democracy, the only thing I can think of is that their true God is not Jesus Christ but the fallen Angel of Light himself. A quote from the article states:

This article is the documented story of how a political religious movement called Dominionism gained control of the Republican Party, then took over Congress, then took over the White House, and now is sealing the conversion of America to a theocracy by taking over the American Judiciary. It’s the story of why and how “the wrath of God Almighty” will be unleashed against the middle class, against the poor, and against the elderly and sick of this nation by George W. Bush and his army of Republican Dominionist “rulers.”

http://www.yuricareport.com/Dominionism/TheDespoilingOfAmerica.htm

I don’t think God’s wrath is being unleashed on the most helpless of our citizens, so it has to be coming from Hell itself. I remember the time spent on the Devil in catechism class, and religion classes, and later in theology classes. One thing was consistent about the Devil. He was the Prince of Lies. He would tempt you to sin by any method he could especially through deceptions.

He would clothe himself in the raiment of Jesus Christ, to convince you that lying, stealing and murder really weren’t sins after all if you did it in the name of Jesus Christ. Lucifer is second only to God Almighty in power according to Christian theologians and once sat on the right hand of God, so he is almost as powerful of an entity as God. Perhaps this is why he can work his mischief pretty much unchallenged by the Almighty.

The sisters spoke of an ongoing war waged between the choirs of Heavenly angels and the demons of Hell for our souls. The war is eternal and sometimes the other side gains ground. It seems the Devil has the legions of Heaven on the retreat right now. Perhaps we, who know people who are being sucked into the legions of Lucifer, under the banner of Christianity, need to remind them every day of the Sermon on the Mount Jesus preached. This is the real Jesus, not the God who wants to wage war on the poor, children and the elderly.

The Sermon on the Mount, Matthew, Chapter 5, verses 1 to 22

And seeing the crowds, he went up the mountain. And when he was seated, his disciples came to him. And opening his mouth he taught them, saying,

Blessed are the poor in spirit: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.

Blessed are the meek: for they shall posses the land.

Blessed are they who mourn: for they shall be comforted.

Blessed are they that hunger and thirst after justice: for they shall have their fill.

Blessed are the merciful: for they shall obtain mercy.

Blessed are the clean of heart: for they shall see God.

Blessed are the peacemakers: for they shall be called the children of God.

Blessed are they that suffer persecution for justice' sake, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.

Blessed are you when men reproach you, and persecute you, and, speaking falsely, say all manner of evil against you, for my sake. Rejoice and exult, because your reward is great in heaven; so did they persecute the prophets who were before you.

And immediately, they (James and John) left their nets and their father, and followed him.

It’s crystal clear that the Jesus of the New Testament had little time for laissez-faire capitalism, murder, lying, war mongering, cruelty and injustice, something these Dominion Christians seem to excel in. It’s time for Christians to start taking back the dialogue by exorcising Lucifer and his minions out of their Churches. It will be the Christian community that will have to do this or find all that they ever believed in lost to these Satanists.

[amber dog democrat]

1. there is nothing Christian about the Chimp or his handlers.

I hate to see it come down to such a Manichean duality, but I think this is the great struggle of our age. Christ would have had nothing to do with them.
Who would Jesus invade ?

[Cleita]

2. No one.

Because he said Himself that His Kingdom was not of this world. This is why this march to world conquest is so unChristian and very diabolical.

[amber dog democrat]

3. and this evil is the result of way too much self focus.

Its a funny thing, years ago there used to be a news paper in Oklahoma Indian Territory that had this poem on its mast head... I was urged to memorize it as a child.
" Of those whom men denounce as ill,
I find so much of goodness still
Of those whom men pronounce devine,
I find so much as sin and blot I hesitate to draw the line
Where god has not. "

That said I think we know who is who. I would not want to trade places with a Cheney Rumsfeld, or a Wolfowitz . They'll have much to account for .
I think the Chimp is so developmentally damaged, he is not capable of critical assessment or perspective. He better pray he is spared a lucid moment.

[Tansy_Gold]

4. I read this when it first came out in February and have

passed copies along to several people.

Many mainstream christians are very reluctant to believe that their "brothers" and "sisters" in faith have gone this far to the dark side, but i believe it's very important for all of us, believers or not, to let people of reasonable faith know about the danger.


Tansy Gold, devout atheist

[Cleita]

5. I'm pretty much an atheist too.

But I do believe in an unknown out there that is waiting to be discovered. However, these people just reek of vileness and I thought I would frame it for Christians because they need to recognize this evil in the midst of them.

[Ripley]

8. I recognize this evil and I'm not religious.

I fear that the Fundamentalist Christian people have taken over the school boards, election boards, and a lot of the computer boards.

They are getting more embrazened (sp)!! See my LBN post: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x743726

They are in - fricking - sane.

[prolesunited]

6. WOW!!!

I've heard some of this before, but this article really pulls it all together. These are some scary people.

[Cleita]

7. Really, really, really, really scary.

Awful, awful stuff.

[Minstrel Boy]

9. Sadly, I agree.

There's an occult history to the Third Reich, and I believe there is as well to the Bush/Cheney cabal. And it's been coming a long time.

Back in the '30s, industrialists with fascist sympathies with names like DuPont and Morgan sponsored a coup against Roosevelt. Then in the '40s, men with names like Bush, Dulles, Favish and Rockefeller traded strategic goods with the enemy, possibly prolonging the war and costing American lives. Worst of all, after the war, Project Paperclip saw Nazis virtually co-found the "National Security State," bringing their advanced technology and criminal medical research to America. And something else:

"When the Americans tripped over this mutant strain of nonlinear physics and took it back home with them, they were astute enough to realize that their home-grown scientific talent couldn't handle it. That it was beyond their cultural term of reference. That's why they recruited so many Germans. The Nazis developed a unique approach to science and engineering quite separate from the rest of the world, because their ideology, unrestrained as it was, supported a wholly different way of doing things. Von Braun's V-2s are a case in point, but so was their understanding of physics. The trouble was, when the Americans took it all home with them they found out, too late, that it came infected with a virus. You take the science on, you take on aspects of the ideology, as well."
- Nick Cook, The Hunt for Zero Point

I think what we're seeing in Bush is the triumph of the virus.

This isn't "politics as usual." We're looking at radical evil here.

[Cleita]

10. That's an interesting way of looking at it,

the ideology mixed in with the science.

[Ripley]

11. You bring up the Occult.

Why does that happen whenever one speaks of the ruling by the Right?

[Cleita]

12. You'r e right,. It does.

I wonder since the occult is often mistakenly associated with the darkeness, if people have an instinct about these X-tians. I myself don't think the occult is evil but just another way to explore the unknown. However, religious conservatives seem to fear it and assign it to the devil. Of course, this would be a trick the real devil would use in his favor.

[Kanary]

13. Which is why King Ronnie and Nancy were fond of astrology

:evilgrin:

[Cleita]

14. I dunno.

Any ideas?

[kysrsoze]

21. When you combine false prophets, Rev. Moon and Zionist intentions...

you really have to start considering the existence of an anti-Christ. Seems to me that the anti-Christ would want to sway all Christians to believe that war is OK (especially in pursuit of the "Holy Land"), that it's alright to persecute people who are different, blind allegience, disregard for the poor/meek, etc.

I've been thinking for awhile that this may be it.

[Cleita]

23. You are going to make me do a post on Armageddon.

I'm not ready to do it this soon because there is a lot of work and research involved.

This is what the RW Christians want you to believe.They are really on to "the end battle on earth" thing because it makes them seem credible. The battle of Armageddon is not on our little planet, our little lifetimes, or our organic beings.

It's much bigger than this and has nothing to do with people who manipulate everyone into being afraid.

[kysrsoze]

26. Oh, I dunno about that last sentence

The Zionists are just going along for the ride and being manipulated in the process. I've read up on this "epic battle" and I'm not sure what to believe.

Though I do find it hard to believe when people say the UN is the "New World Order." That's quite a laugh.

[Cleita]

27. Stay tuned.

But this isn't really political except when politicians don't know how to stay out of religion and religion doesn't know how to stay out of politics.

[kysrsoze]

22. Dupe message

[Cleita]

15. Another kick for thinking Christians who

should be aware of those Christians who don't follow the teachings of Jesus Christ.

[CitizenWill]

16. I was thinking along these lines today

These people are truly evil just look at the things that have happened over the last few years and how this country is dividing into the "supposed" holy than though Christians and the "alleged" evil liberals.

Thank god I'm getting my butt out of this country in a few months.

I'll watch the hell fires from a nice snowbank in Northern Canada somewhere.

[Cleita]

17. Welcome to DU Dante.

Sometimes it takes the ex-pats to save their country. Good luck. Canadians are very nice incidentally, but very aware of our faults. They don't hesitate to challenge you. Love all my Canuck friends that I have known for so many years.

[CitizenWill]

18. Thanks Cletia

I am actually a Canadian who moved here in 94 when things were still good. Coming from Canada I never could understand how the religious right was so deeply seeded in the American political system.

Over the last 10 years I've seen it slowly getting worse and more and more fanatical. I truly hope that the American people take back their country and return it to what it once was.

This whole thing is getting so out of hand and I don't want to leave but I'm not feeling as safe and welcome here as I once did.

Dante

[Cleita]

19. Cool Dante.

Sorry I thought you were a Yank. Yeah, I think the north is a better place to be right now until we can sort this country out.

[Cleita]

20. Kick

Please read the link.:-)

[PaDem]

24. I'm a relatively conservative Christian theologically.........

and very liberal politically. I'm tired of people assuming I support Dubya and his inept neocon administration. People like Bush have created a Jesus in their own image that contradicts the Jesus of the New Testament. Bush's faith appears to be one of convenience in that he uses the Bible to justify hurtful policy but completely ignores scripture that would seem to contradict his vision for America (if you can call it that). He and folks like Pat Robertson are truly the Pharisees of their time. This is clear to me and I have had no problem talking to members of my Church and Christian friends about the side of Bush that they don't see or don't consider. I've been encouraged to hear from several conservative Church members who would like nothing more than to see Bush re-defeated in November.

The Christian community needs a voice as loud as the Falwells and Pat Robertson's that can speak clearly to the Church about the issues raised in the above post.

[Cleita]

25. Welcome to DU!

Yes, the true Christians have to speak out against these people. I think I and others are on the outside looking in, and we want you to take your religion back.

[PaDem]

28. Thank you.......

One big problem is the "Religious Right" is so well funded and frankly well organized. What's more they have no ethics and would do anything to discredit credible opposition in the Christian community. They will always appeal to the lowest common denominator. I hope there comes a day when these guys candle burns out.

[Zing Zing Zingbah]

29. I have a friend who is a Baptist

up in Maine. She feels the same way about Bush as you do.

I think the problem is that some Christains in this country have gotten into the habit of blindly following. They need to start using their brains more and reflect on what is really happening in this country.

[Cleita]

31. You should make your friend aware of what is going on.

Send her the Yurica article and hope she opens her eyes.

[Chelsea Patriot]

30. The Occult is Everywhere with These Clowns!

As usual, Minstrel Boy is right on the mark. So much of what is happening now in our country is the work of Paperclip. The Nazis were believers in this shit, too.

I believe that the ransacking of the Iraq Museums were to find the needed props for their Little Reindeer Games. This Summer's Season at Bohemia Grove was probably one of the Best Ever.

An early report out of Iraq at the beginning of the war talked about the excitement US soldiers were experiencing having come upon the excavations which open The Exorcist. One soldier even suggested The Iraqis could develop the site as a tourist destination for Americans.

I believe the video footage of the torture in Iraqi prisons that Congress rightfully freaked out over during the closed door screenings featured Occult sex rituals. As if child rape could be called anything but satanic.

And of course, the Goat Chant performed by unwitting children before the Anti-Christ as the Massacre of The Innocents took place.

That tableau vivant was staged for someone.

Belief and Participation in this Bullshit allows these people to give themselves over to violence and death and participate in escalating cycles of sadism and destruction.

Great Work, Cleita! And thanks for including the Sermon on the Mount. Loving It!