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southernleftylady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-04 07:21 AM
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Do you think this site is being "watched"
i saw on my other thread about "what will happen if bush ..." that a few people said that they feel the need to watch what they say on here.. so do you think this site is being watched? by who? and what coudl they do to you if "they" are watching?
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DarkPhenyx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-04 07:23 AM
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1. I'm sure we're being "watched".
I just don't care about it is all.
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-04 07:23 AM
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2. I hope so
maybe they'll learn something.


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Robbien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-04 07:23 AM
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3. It is not what they could do to a poster
It is what they will use in the media as signs that the left is looney, nasty, tin-hatters, is discouraged, and so on

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Bandit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-04 09:24 AM
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22. In a way I think that is good
Kind of like how people slow down for a car wreck. They have a morbid fascination for gross and horrible things. If the sensationalism gets them to check us out then it is a good thing. You have to admit that very few posts are beyond the pale. The great majority are well thought out logical expressions of concern for our country.
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Vickers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-04 07:23 AM
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4. Of course it is. The good news, though, is I think that "our" side
watches it, too. Look at all the cool stuff DUers dredge up, and then *PRESTO!* 3 months later you get a watered down version in the national news.
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69KV Donating Member (444 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-04 10:55 AM
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36. I've noticed that
I've seen some political campaigns using ideas that were floated here first. They'll get sorted out by advisors and focus groups first of course, but the Democratic party does pay attention to DU and to the liberal blogs.
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MichaelHarris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-04 07:24 AM
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5. probably
and as long as it's America I'll never watch what I say. It is still America right? With bush* and cheney you never know.
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jayfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-04 07:24 AM
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6. It's Being Watched By The Digital Brownshirts.
Edited on Thu Aug-12-04 07:31 AM by jayfish
They have already gotten one DU'er fired. I'm sure they would not hesitate to call the "proper' authorities if they felt the need.

Jay
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Tandalayo_Scheisskopf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-04 07:27 AM
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8. Fools.
Just fools, doing foolish things in foolish ways.

Karma will out.
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demnan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-04 07:31 AM
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9. Is that true?
Who?

I'm not that worried, but I wouldn't say anything extreme that could be taken as a threat.
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jayfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-04 07:37 AM
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10. It Sure Is.
There are many threads about this event. Here is one.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=1768422

...and this is just the Freepers watching DU. I have also seen several "reported to the FBI" threads on several BB's including Yahoo.

Jay
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IdaBriggs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-04 09:25 AM
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23. What are you talking about?
Who got fired? What's the story? :) Ida
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jayfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-04 10:05 AM
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28. See #10 -NT-
Jay
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-04 10:06 AM
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30. That poster mention the company

in his/her post right?
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jayfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-04 10:12 AM
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33. No, But...
He gave away geographic and job description details that allowed the Freeper to ascertain his employer.

Jay
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The Traveler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-04 07:27 AM
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7. Forgive me ... I am just being paranoid
But of course, that doesn't mean they aren't out to get me ...

:shrug:
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Oggy Donating Member (652 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-04 07:42 AM
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11. A while back
there were a few posts by a DU member who had met a FBI guy following them about something, I can not remember who it was or what it was about. I do remember the FBI guy was called Mike, and he had been monitoring DU. So Hi Mike if you are still watching.:hi:
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jukes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-04 09:14 AM
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21. mikey can come watch jukes!
i might invite him to a ballpeen party.

FBI are incompetent, headline grabbing assholes. kicked piss out of one outside a bar in Alexandria, VA once.
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jukes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-04 07:44 AM
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12. nodowt!
Vaderlund Sekurity is def watching this site; may be a few cop-moles on board. they won't do anything till the dictator ensures his coup, but moles might try to elicit "seditious" comments. remember, "entrapment" does not apply to the Hatriot Acht!


on the other hand, i'm prob'ly on so many watch lists it doesn't matter. dowt i cd board a plane.

don't be paranoid, but don't make comments that wd hold up in front of a tribunal as violent or "non-patriotic."
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AlinPA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-04 07:49 AM
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13. Probably. Come and get me you right wing bastards.
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Jacobin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-04 07:58 AM
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14. Agent Mike, who keeps an eye on BevHarris lurks here
I think he's with the Secret Service.

Hi AgentMike :hi:

(His mission appears to be making sure that Bush's rigged voting machines stay that way)
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RebelYell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-04 08:39 AM
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15. If there were more people in this country like DU'ers
we wouldn't have a Patriot act. They can't arrest all of us! There is power in numbers.
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Nimrod Donating Member (999 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-04 08:51 AM
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16. Orwellian Nightmares
Edited on Thu Aug-12-04 08:52 AM by Nimrod
I freely admit I'm a paranoid and a cynic, but I'm positive we're being watched. If Bu$hCo is allowed to steal another election, I'm guessing we have MAYBE six months before arrests of "domestic terrorists" start making the news on a daily basis.

Domestic terrorists. That means you and me, and anybody else with the audacity to speak against the current administration. Most of us probably already have files started on us, so when they start rounding us up they have existing justification. I also imagine the words "revolt" and "revolution" have been flagged, so anyone who uses either word in a post gets extra attention paid to them and will be among the first to go.

I hope I'm wrong. If I find out I'm just wearing a tinfoil hat I'll be one hell of a happy man.
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ursacorwin Donating Member (528 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-04 09:07 AM
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17. no doubt about it, folks!
this site and several others in the same vein are watched by several agencies, including the FBI, DEA and various other groups.

there are also those who seek to disrupt our conversations, and are probably paid by the RNC and the like.

i've been told by site owners about all the gov't agencies who log on. it's creepy, but not unexpected if you know anything about our gov't history of disrupting peaceful activists and leftist groups.

hi mike! hopefully, all your time here has taught you something.
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Kazak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-04 09:12 AM
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18. Watch this!
*extends middle finger* :wow:
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2Design Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-04 09:12 AM
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19. when they post cops at movie theatres were ya'll went to see
F911, I am sure they worry about any organization of like mind individuals against the current administration.....Anyone signed into here is probably on their watch list, and if BushCo gets back in, it would probably be a good time to leave this country.

Like with Nazi germany, those who got out early, escaped. Those who wanted to believe it could not happen in their country or that it was only happening to a few....well some of them got to climb in a oven.

We have already seen how RW have treated dems when they tear up yard signs, or bust car windows or vandalize bumper stickers. If BushCo stays in these evil doers will get worse.

The RW is what needs to be feared but for some reason, just like Kerry in the 60's they watch those who are for Peace. The war hawks like BushCo and all his followers continue to get a free pass.
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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-04 09:14 AM
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20. The Problem Is
all the think-tanking, strategizing, and plain reacting that we do here is fertile fodder for the opposition researchers, and not the occasional posters, but the ones who NEVER post.
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democratreformed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-04 09:28 AM
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24. I feel the need to watch what I say EVERYWHERE.
They can take an innocent thing that someone says and turn it around on them if people are not careful.

I don't necessarily think this site is being watched. But, I think they (Bushies) could target someone and pull things from here or other places to use against that someone.
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Texasgal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-04 09:40 AM
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25. I am not afraid!
I am proud to be a lefty! I could care less if some weirdo is watching this site... they can all kiss my ass!
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InkAddict Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-04 10:18 AM
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34. Yup...
Bible says to be "bold as a lion."
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-04 10:02 AM
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26. "watched"?
Probably. I'm sure the campaigns watch it. That's why I wish people would be careful about their hysteria sometimes. Never let them see you sweat.

Watched by the feds? :hi: Fuck them. I don't think anybody should ever worry about what they say for fear from the feds. That's just wrong.
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skygazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-04 10:03 AM
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27. Bring 'em on!
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-04 10:06 AM
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29. Hey watchers
Bite me.

End transmission.
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Gregorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-04 11:29 AM
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41. Just be careful where you bite.
They say he has buns of steel.:)


But really,
-You write a letter or phone, and they have your id.
-Get on the internet, and your ip address is free to see.

So what are we going to do, be silent? I don't think so.
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InkAddict Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-04 10:07 AM
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31. What can they do?
Adios employment - reason "just arbitrary." Screw up unemployment benes (oh-oh we overpaid you and we want it back before you'll get any more checks -- and they sorry to bother you so here's three bucks back after we read the list and checked it twice to find out if you were naughty or nice HOHOHO" - alert your real estate agency to steer clear (We want our kind to get a good deal when the sheriff has his garage sale) - mess with your kids' FAFSA (Sorry, honey, if you're not PG etc...no bucks for you - then change the story after a filing deadline has passed) Sorry, just paranoid!

However, my question remains "what wouldn't they do?" )for a Klondike bar of oil and gold)
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Nicholas D Wolfwood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-04 10:09 AM
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32. oh hell yeah
We're all on the FBI terrorism list.
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CrispyQ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-04 10:21 AM
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35. If they're watching me, their lives must be boring as shit!
I have nothing to hide. I can't stand our current pResident. If something awful happened to him, I'd rejoice, but I'm not gonna do anything. Well, that's not totally true - I am going to the polls on November 2 to vote the lying bastard out of office & am encouraging everyone I know to do the same.
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vetwife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-04 10:59 AM
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37. Its not like they don't know who we are anyway...Yes its being watched !
Edited on Thu Aug-12-04 11:00 AM by vetwife
I know for a fact that freepers lurk here and write it up on local newspapers. As far as the CIA...They all know who the left is anyway !

I agree with William Pitt !
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WLKjr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-04 11:03 AM
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38. If it's any site that should be watched it should be FR
I have seen posts there before threatening the life of senators, former presidents, presidential candidates, other public figures that don't cohere with the NEO CON way of thought. They even got a guy fired from his job from posting here. Those people are some crazy mother cheneyers
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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-04 11:20 AM
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39. Now who was it said, that if we change the way we live after 9/11
Edited on Thu Aug-12-04 11:23 AM by Hubert Flottz
then the terra-ists HAVE WON? I couldn't stomach Bush in 2000 and I still can't! People who STILL think that Bush is doing the right things for this country, are just uninformed, lazy, MORANS!

I hope we have made a difference and I firmly believe we have! I'm grateful to every patriotic American who seeks the truth!
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Domitan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-04 11:22 AM
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40. Is it possible for any of us to be identified?
I mean besides those who have posted their real names or pictures.
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Tsiyu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-04 12:48 PM
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42. Well Sure we are being watched
The left gets talking points here. O'Liely gets talking points here, no doubt.

And the Feds? Sure, Bush probably reads the posts himself because of his vanity and insecurity.

Should we care? A little. But not enough to gag ourselves. THIS IS MY COUNTRY, DAMN IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! and I will say what I like. I have already thought about the worst case scenario and I am prepared to DIE for what I believe.

Come on, Big Boys. If you are SO BIG and * is so secure, we are irrelevant. The only reason you would watch us is if YOU are terrified of losing in November.....

And BTW, my son's FAFSA went through just fine. No problema.
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Goose3five Donating Member (125 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-04 01:50 PM
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43. What is more important...
is that with the release of his new...um...book "Unfit for Command," Jerry Corsi has drawn alot of attention to Freepers. I have to admit, those guys are way scarier then we are!

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Tim4319 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-04 01:54 PM
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44. Most definitely!
I've heard DU being mentioned numerous times on some conservative radio programs. And, I know if they are watching, the "Powers That Be" definitely have their eyes and ears open.
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