John O'Neil has thoroughly had his ass

[Bush was AWOL]

handed to him on the two shows I've watched him on today. Will anybody take this piece of shit serious after today's beatdowns on Crossfire and Hardball? Anybody that has watched either of these two programs with an open mind can't possibly take this scumbag serious can they?

[0rganism]

1. key words: "with an open mind"

Does anyone with an open mind even watch Hardball or Crossfire?

[Bush was AWOL]

7. I hope so because he had his ass kicked on both shows

big time. He was probably expecting everyone to be as nice to him as Sean Hannity. Anyway, the sorry fuck has been exposed.

[Andromeda]

30. Um, I do.

:hurts: I want to know what the other side is saying and I love to see Carville beating up the freepers.

[blueblitzkrieg]

2. Stick a fork in him.

He's done.

He looks like he's about to burst into tears. He looks tired. He looks beat.

[BeyondGeography]

3. Tweety just shoved it up his a**

O'Neill said "he hasn't had a chance to talk."

Tweety said "you talked for 20 mintues, John. I'll clock you and prove it. Don't try that old trick. It's a CONSERVATIVE trick."

I'm telling you folks, Tweety is no longer in full-blown whore mode. At the very least, he played for our side today.

[ParisFrance]

11. Christ Matthews was objective today

He sided with the truth. Didn't he used to campaign for Clinton?

[VolcanoJen]

20. I certainly don't recall him campaigning for Clinton.

He was an aide to former Speaker of the House Tipp O'Neil, however...

[Bogus W Potus]

44. He also wrote speeches for President Carter

Tweety is not as bad as you think. Tim Russert also worked for Carter.

[Toots]

37. He made his living off Clinton, but campaign for......not likely.

:shrug:

[Cassandra]

12. I was astonished

I thought someone kicked him in the head.

[WI_DEM]

4. Tweety redeemed himself tonight

at least for tonight in my eyes. Saying as he went off the air, "Kerry served more heroically than most Americans--including Bush."

[desi]

24. I had to rewind the DVR several times

to make sure that was what he said and indeed what I heard. Thanks for confirming it.

[LittleApple81]

5. I could not believe TWEETY!!!! He destroyed the guy!!!! He did more

than the other Kerry "witness" he had during the program!!! amazing...wonders never cease.

[slor]

6. Tweety smacked him good...

I am not ready to call myself a fan of tweety, but damn I came close tonight baby! Catch the replay if you can. Sorry I missed Crossfire.

[Disturbed]

14. I have written many times...

that Mathews is not a knee jerk Repub. He opposed the illegal Iraq invasion from the start. He has critized the Neo Fascist agenda many times, incl. their lavish spending and running up the largest deficit in American history. He is a moderate Repub. not a rabid RW pundit.

[Demonaut]

21. I totally agree with you, overall he's a fairly decent human being

and he showed it tonite....not like the "Douchebag for Liberty" pn crossfire

[qanda]

8. Tweety gets two thumbs up

I loved his last comment that John Kerry served more than most people in our country including the current president.

[Imalittleteapot]

9. Matthews final statement about Kerry & Swift Boat Vets

something like: He's done more for his country than a lot of us and more than the President.

[PROGRESSIVE1]

40. Matthews actually said that???

Tweety said that Kerry did more than Bunnypants?

[Norquist Nemesis]

46. He sure did!

That was the best thing said in the whole show!

[Nicholas D Wolfwood]

10. Carville and the Kerry advisor fucking nailed him

"Name one man that you cited in that book that was actually on the boat with John Kerry when it happened."

"Well, I, uh, there are 60 Purple Heart winners that came forward..."

"Were any of them on the boat with John Kerry?"

"Well, I, uh..."


Didn't think so, fuckface. Go home and shut the fuck up. Can't we sue this asshole for libel?

[tridim]

13. Yep, but for some reason Rove wants him out there on TV

For the life of me I can't figure out why. O'Neill can't be helping, but I must admit he's an excellent liar and he doesn't back down no matter what. They must be getting some wacky polling that says he's effective. Maybe they're polling Freepers?

If Rove is smart (and I don't think he is), he'll yank O'Neill off TV tomorrow.

[emulatorloo]

18. pre-emptive strike against AWOL story?

If there is new AWOL info coming, Bush spokespeople will say - "Why this is no better than those discredited Swift Boat vets, who our very own John McCain denounced. . .how can the Dems sink so low?"

[TankLV]

27. Nope - works perfectly for the AWOL charges.

Kerry can prove his whereabouts and records.

Bush only has what he claims - no records - no witnesses - same crap they tried and failed with on Kerry.

On the contrary, the records that do exist lead one to believe that he is as we claim - unfit to be President and a LIAR.

No - we can clean his clock with this.

bush* = AWOL = DESERTER = UNFIT TO BE PRESIDENT the 1st time, let alone be re-selected.

[Feanorcurufinwe]

23. He's a poor liar. Stubborn, but unconvincing.

[LiberalFighter]

43. I don't want any of those scumbags to be smart!!

[olddem43]

15. Matthews beat O'Neill's ass to a pulp.

Said who are we to believe, the Navy, Kerry's crew mates or your book? Said Kerry served honorably and did more than himself or the president. Matthews has changed completely since his attitude before the convention. I think he will vote for Kerry.

[Got WMD]

16. Tweety kicked his a$$!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Wow, I've had issues with Tweety in the past, but he destroyed O'Neill today. The final segment was especially sweet. Amazingly, he's had the best rebuttal I've seen yet on this subject.... "So Mr. O'Neill, you're saying the Navy and his crew mates are lying".
Good Stuff!!!

[ConradV]

17. O'Neill

Geez, I thought O'Neill's cheezy toupee was going to start spinning on his head. Boy that rug makes him look like a sleezy used car salesman.

[faithnotgreed]

26. what good eyes you have! welcome to du conrad

[AntiCoup2K4]

19. When is the Tweety re-run on?

MSRNC always has their shit on too early :(

[onecitizen]

32. 11PM est

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[Hamlette]

22. email Chris and thank him

you know he will be inundated with hate email after this. He should know some of us appreciate him taking this guy apart.

[faithnotgreed]

25. agree completely...

[Sparkly]

28. [e-mail]

:)

[Shopaholic]

36. Part of the e-mail I sent to Tweety:

I just wanted to let you know how much I appreciated the way in which Chris handled the interview tonight with John O'Neil on the "Swift Boat Veterans against Kerry" and this book of lies he has written-"Unfit for Duty". His questions about O'Neil's voting history were brilliant--a textbook lesson on how to conduct an interview.

According to Media Matters, O'Neil has made over $15,000 in contributions in the past 15 years--all to Republican candidates. If he supports Democrats--as he claimed (lied) on Hardball tonight, then how is it possible that he has never financially supported them? I say he's put his money where his heart is and it's clearly not with the Democrats--as this book of his proves. It ought to be sold in the fiction section.

I'd also like to thank Chris for his pointing out O'Neil's tactics--trying to claim Chris had not allowed him to speak and for his final statements praising John Kerry's service to this country at the show's close.

Hardball repeats tonight at 11pm Eastern for those of you who missed it-the interview with O'Neil is in the second block of the show--at about 25-30 minutes in.

[Andromeda]

29. Carville and Davis did a good job of

discrediting O'Neil but time constraints kept it from being a real brawl. If the "discussion" had gone on any longer I believe Carville would have punched the guy's lights out. I've never seen him so mad.

Tweety used his hour well and didn't go off on one of his little tangents today. He chewed O'Neil up and spit him out while the other guest, John Hurley of Veterans for Kerry, sat and smiled. Hurley got in some good licks of his own and I was impressed that he was so well-prepared.

[frylock]

31. the look on hurley's face as he gathered up his notes..

that was just beautiful. It was like he could hardly contain himself. Me and my roommate were laughing our asses off!!

[Andromeda]

33. I thought he was going to cry!

Poor baby, he's probably crying to unka Dick now.:D

[kskiska]

34. Missed it but will catch it at 11

It looks as though the pundits (the smart ones, at least) have decided to put this story to bed once and for all. Drudge has been excerpting this "book" for a week now, drip-drip-dripping dirty little tidbits that Rush and Hannity disburse to the masses each and every day. I think everyone is sick and tired of it. The book will tank quickly.

[buycitgo]

35. OK, when you watch it, ask yourself:

WHY didn't tweety go after the funding specifically, ASK him point blank WHO paid a hundred thousand out of the hundred fifty start up cost? make him SAY robert perry. THEN, make him say how much money he gives to pugs, and how much he gives to dems. tell him all he had to do was check the internet to find out, if he played dumb.

make him SAY who he voted for in 2000; he said it was Perot twice! and I could SWEAR he said 'yes' under his breath when tweet asked him if he voted for Gore! please check that.

ALSO, he should had continuted to go after him when the private EYE was mentioned. Why would they hire a private EYE to sneak around Kerry's supporting vets? as he said, if they were at ALL interested in finding out the truth, why did they not just INTERVIEW them under normal circumstances? he should have HAMMERED him on that.

And I thought he gave him WAY too much consideration at the beginning. He SHOULD have connected, at the beginning, how ONeill was a pug op for over thirty YEARS, how his law firm represented BUSH when he was governor, for god/s sake. stuff like that. setting up all this in advance would have completely destroyed any hope of ONeill being seen as anything but a sleazy, hired character assassin.

WHY did he let him put out his crap first? I thought he raised some points of contention, saying that he had documentation about several instances of contention, re: how much enemy fire was going on when he killed the RPG guy, the changed story on one of his purple hearts.

not that I believe what he said, BUT schWING voters might hear some putatively reasonable sounding charges there, and WONDER WTF is going on.

and WHY did he let him skate on Corsi? not ONE question on that? WHY? he LIED about him before, saying he was NOT a co-author! why didn't he call him on THAT obvious lie, right off the bat?

See what I'm saying?

that said, tweetser did, for the most part a much better job than ususal of shedding light, rather than shedding his own water weight, via his piehole.

[Rose Siding]

38. Cable would pimp Professor Harold Hill

if there were any money in marching bands.

Giving him time to tell his story in the first place is their problem. He's been beat down over and over. Where's the air time for critics of Bush's TANG record? Those charges are met with only derision and dismissal, not repeated, in depth discussion.

[aint_no_life_nowhere]

39. O'Neill wouldn't comment on Bush

Matthews finally got O'Neill to admit that Kerry showed courage in Vietnam by going into the jungle after a VietCong, not knowing what he would find there. The issue seems to be whether there was one or several VietCong and whether they had returned fire. O'Neill finally admitted that the act of going into the jungle itself was courageous, although he kept repeating that Kerry shot a kid in the back (I think he repeated that "shot in the back" line at least 6 times), each time saying it was allright for him to have done it, although not heroic. But O'Neill ducked the question each time that Matthews asked him how Bush would compare to Kerry in the courage department. Since the main issue is "fitness for command" why can't O'Neill comment on Bush? I was disappointed that Matthews didn't press that point to the very end.

[PROGRESSIVE1]

41. and O'Neill was and IS a coward!

[Norquist Nemesis]

47. But Matthews summed it up at the end

by saying bottom line is, "Kerry's done more for this country than me or anyone else including the President." or pretty close words to that effect. It was BEAUTIFUL! I actually stood up and cheered!!!

[devilgrrl]

42. Wow, this guy's an A-S-S-H-O-L-E!!!

This is the first I've seen of this guy. Everyone is right - this guy's a loser! And that tupe... :eyes:

[kentuck]

45. Best interview of O'Neill so far...

Chris Matthews covered all the bases. He even mentioned that he worked for Nixon. Also, compared Kerry's record to Bush's record... He did a job that needed done.